EchoTheCat
2 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
:))
It was irony. But never mind...
ShortHairThug: You really have warped logic. How old are you? 6
:))
It was irony. But never mind...
EchoTheCat
2 Apr 2010
EchoTheCat
2 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
Ok, thanks. But it doesn't explain our murders.
Ok, thanks. But it doesn't explain our murders.
EchoTheCat
2 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
Where ? When ? By who ? Facts please :)
What are you suggesting ? That Jews in Jedwabne were killed because of other reasons than religion ? In some way yes. Imagine you are one of citizen of Jedwabne. Your neighbor, Jew let say Levi, has a big house and land. So what will happen if you will kill Levi. The answer was: nothing. Because nobody cared about few Jews when million of them were dieing in Auschwitz. It sad but true but Jews in Jedwabne were killed only because of greed.
Ironside: The point is that Poles were killed by Jews and nobody seems to care
Where ? When ? By who ? Facts please :)
Ironside: and secondly in how many cases Jews were killed because their were Jews, not for other reasons ?
What are you suggesting ? That Jews in Jedwabne were killed because of other reasons than religion ? In some way yes. Imagine you are one of citizen of Jedwabne. Your neighbor, Jew let say Levi, has a big house and land. So what will happen if you will kill Levi. The answer was: nothing. Because nobody cared about few Jews when million of them were dieing in Auschwitz. It sad but true but Jews in Jedwabne were killed only because of greed.
EchoTheCat
2 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
I meant your reaction was very predictable.
We don't "demonization" your german troops, we know you will always be Nazis ;) (just kidding, don't bite)
In Polish press and public discussion there's no such thing like "scrambling history wounds" but actually we have problem with your "expellees". So for average Pole Erika Steinbach is far more interesting than Hitler :)
Bratwurst Boy: ???
I meant your reaction was very predictable.
Bratwurst Boy: I don't believe the demonization of the german troops anymore either
We don't "demonization" your german troops, we know you will always be Nazis ;) (just kidding, don't bite)
In Polish press and public discussion there's no such thing like "scrambling history wounds" but actually we have problem with your "expellees". So for average Pole Erika Steinbach is far more interesting than Hitler :)
EchoTheCat
2 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
Yes.... I was waiting for that post from you. It's like bait for the fish. Somebody says "Poles didn't kill the Jews" and BB will always swim up and swallow the bait :P
If you have time and patience you can read about 120 cities and villages where Jews were killed by Poles. You can find it in IPN archives :) We have it in our history books at schools next to the description about the massacre in Jedwabne. So enjoy the lecture :P ;)
Bratwurst Boy: Oh please!
Yes.... I was waiting for that post from you. It's like bait for the fish. Somebody says "Poles didn't kill the Jews" and BB will always swim up and swallow the bait :P
If you have time and patience you can read about 120 cities and villages where Jews were killed by Poles. You can find it in IPN archives :) We have it in our history books at schools next to the description about the massacre in Jedwabne. So enjoy the lecture :P ;)
EchoTheCat
2 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
Nomaderol ... I didn't talk about assimilated Jews because this is obvious that if you want to be assimilated Jew in country like Poland you can't be an orthodox. Most of assimilated Jews lived in big cities but most of Jews in Poland in that days lived in small cities and villages. And they were far away from assimilation.
"Semites" is an anthropological expression and has nothing to do with religion.
nomaderol: They weren't assimilated cause actually they were/are not religious (not Jews really and they aren't semities like Sephardins.) You can't expect a nonreligious to become a Christian or religious. Assimilation in any culture is possible only and only in nonreligious environment in that religions can be considered like hobby only.
Nomaderol ... I didn't talk about assimilated Jews because this is obvious that if you want to be assimilated Jew in country like Poland you can't be an orthodox. Most of assimilated Jews lived in big cities but most of Jews in Poland in that days lived in small cities and villages. And they were far away from assimilation.
nomaderol: aren't semities like Sephardins
"Semites" is an anthropological expression and has nothing to do with religion.
EchoTheCat
1 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
I don't understand. You think that Aushwitz wasn't a hell on earth for those Jews ? Or maybe Aushwitz wasn't real life ? Just asking.
vetala: Please, remember that In REAL LIFE there are no extremes like 'bed of roses' or 'hell on earth'.
I don't understand. You think that Aushwitz wasn't a hell on earth for those Jews ? Or maybe Aushwitz wasn't real life ? Just asking.
EchoTheCat
1 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
He never killed anyone. Even during the IWW when he was a soldier.
SeanBM: Did Hitler actually kill any Jews himself at all, I mean personally? If he did, did he kill any in Poland?
He never killed anyone. Even during the IWW when he was a soldier.
EchoTheCat
1 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
I had magisterium about wooden synagogues in Poland and Jewish polychrome paintings and I have to say that Aszkenazi's Jews weren's so open and assimilated as their Sefardians friends from western Europe. In their beliefs and religious life most of them were very traditional. But this is not a conversation for this thread :)
I agree. It was a mistake. After the war most of Jews which survived didn't want to live here and see the places of executions every day. And the rest of them were deported (or banished) in 68...
nomaderol: Ashkenazi Jews have never been religious really.
I had magisterium about wooden synagogues in Poland and Jewish polychrome paintings and I have to say that Aszkenazi's Jews weren's so open and assimilated as their Sefardians friends from western Europe. In their beliefs and religious life most of them were very traditional. But this is not a conversation for this thread :)
nomaderol: But, poor Poland, it missed this chance by deporting Jews
I agree. It was a mistake. After the war most of Jews which survived didn't want to live here and see the places of executions every day. And the rest of them were deported (or banished) in 68...
EchoTheCat
1 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
Our train network was the most expanded in Europe, especially in western Poland. Of course now we have PKP and you can forget about this ;)
Seanus: I wouldn't say that Poland had a particularly developed transport network overall
Our train network was the most expanded in Europe, especially in western Poland. Of course now we have PKP and you can forget about this ;)
EchoTheCat
1 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
But you have to agree that Poles were anti-semitic before the war.
Your theory is very reliable.
Wawel: I do not buy the theory that it is because Poles are anti-semitic
But you have to agree that Poles were anti-semitic before the war.
Your theory is very reliable.
EchoTheCat
1 Apr 2010
History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]
No.
No.
No.
In some way.
It's very helpful to have a scapegoat when you are a populist like Hitler. Jews hadn't any power in Central Europe, especially in Poland when we had Aszkenazi's Jews (very religious and orthodox). The reason why Hitler picked up Jews instead of Poles or Frenchs was the Jews were very "visible" in social life. Before the war nearly 30 % of Polish people weren't actually Polish. Can you imagine? They were mostly Jews, Ukrainians, Germans, Russians or they came from some ethnic minorities like Kaszebians, Silesians, Mazurians, Lemkows etc.
It's sad but the idea of Holocaust came from sick mind of one man.
I don't want to insult you but don't you have some history books in country you come from ?
Wroclaw Boy: Was it because they flourished in business?
No.
Wroclaw Boy: Was it because they had power in central Europe?
No.
Wroclaw Boy: Was it because they (so called) murdered Christ?
No.
Wroclaw Boy: Was it personal vendetta?
In some way.
It's very helpful to have a scapegoat when you are a populist like Hitler. Jews hadn't any power in Central Europe, especially in Poland when we had Aszkenazi's Jews (very religious and orthodox). The reason why Hitler picked up Jews instead of Poles or Frenchs was the Jews were very "visible" in social life. Before the war nearly 30 % of Polish people weren't actually Polish. Can you imagine? They were mostly Jews, Ukrainians, Germans, Russians or they came from some ethnic minorities like Kaszebians, Silesians, Mazurians, Lemkows etc.
It's sad but the idea of Holocaust came from sick mind of one man.
I don't want to insult you but don't you have some history books in country you come from ?
EchoTheCat
15 Mar 2010
News / Did you know that Polish army is the weakest in Central Europe?.. [150]
Actually we have been in Moscow already and we didn't need tanks. After the death of Ivan IV Poles went to Moscow and said that they have found the lost son of Ivan. And ... they believed us (!). So some Polish yokel really has been the tzar of Russia for a few weeks. Now one of the most important day in Russia is the day of expel Poles from Moscow :))
Yeah...in 1 week in Moscow AND Berlin!!! ;)
Actually we have been in Moscow already and we didn't need tanks. After the death of Ivan IV Poles went to Moscow and said that they have found the lost son of Ivan. And ... they believed us (!). So some Polish yokel really has been the tzar of Russia for a few weeks. Now one of the most important day in Russia is the day of expel Poles from Moscow :))
EchoTheCat
6 Mar 2010
Life / Proper dose of life in Poland... the harsh realities. [64]
Did you know that 1/3 of Polish employees work on 2/3 of Polish people which are unemployed (pensioners, privileged groups, unemployed) ? This IS the most unjust society in Europe.
But I have one question. Every time I see you, you moan. Is that makes you feel better ?
i dont like to witness injustices and i see a lot of it around here.
Did you know that 1/3 of Polish employees work on 2/3 of Polish people which are unemployed (pensioners, privileged groups, unemployed) ? This IS the most unjust society in Europe.
But I have one question. Every time I see you, you moan. Is that makes you feel better ?
EchoTheCat
8 Feb 2010
Travel / Best Easter Eggs in Warsaw? [9]
You have to wait till March and then you can buy it in supermarkets. But don't expect there will be real chocolate eggs like you say. They will be rather smaller and just chocolate without filling. Sorry in Poland we prefer real eggs with glair and yolk ;)
You have to wait till March and then you can buy it in supermarkets. But don't expect there will be real chocolate eggs like you say. They will be rather smaller and just chocolate without filling. Sorry in Poland we prefer real eggs with glair and yolk ;)
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
Work / Moving to Krakow from London, worrying about finding a job [16]
Ufff I thought they have "I hate pope" burned on their foreheads ;))
Ufff I thought they have "I hate pope" burned on their foreheads ;))
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
Work / Moving to Krakow from London, worrying about finding a job [16]
What the protestant looks like ???
Do not listen that. You are welcome in Krakow :) But I'm afraid you will have to be a teacher in the beginning unless you are working in IT.
...depends, do you look like a protestant?
What the protestant looks like ???
The CIRA didnt order the murder of any Poles.
Do not listen that. You are welcome in Krakow :) But I'm afraid you will have to be a teacher in the beginning unless you are working in IT.
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
Language / Slovio - the international simplified Slavic language [37]
I loooove this site ! It's like reading Tolkien ;)
If I were you I wouldn't believe everything in Internet :)
Slavio language is a beautyfull thing but don't you think we have our common language ? It's called vodka :) In that language you can come to agreement with every nationality, included Germans ;)
Other Venetic Slavs have migrated westwards to central Italy, where they have been known as the Etruskans, the founders of Rome.
I loooove this site ! It's like reading Tolkien ;)
If I were you I wouldn't believe everything in Internet :)
Slavio language is a beautyfull thing but don't you think we have our common language ? It's called vodka :) In that language you can come to agreement with every nationality, included Germans ;)
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
History / Can Poland allow itself to refuse Slavija? [32]
You think that poor Warsaw can be capital of your imagined Slavija and call me crazy :))) I like fantasy literature but this is to much even for me :))
You think that poor Warsaw can be capital of your imagined Slavija and call me crazy :))) I like fantasy literature but this is to much even for me :))
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
History / Can Poland allow itself to refuse Slavija? [32]
Is Warsaw as a capital so important to you ? What would be better: part of something or a capital of nothing?
I can't imagine Poland and Russia in one Conferedation. 71% of Russians are considered themselves as Asians not Europeans and I think that you overestimate "Slavic blood" :) There are far more different reasons that determined our "membership" to Eurabia or Slavija than language or history.
And what's Slavija for you? Because I think we had something alike between 1955 and 1991 ... :) And it didn't work.
Also, with or without Russia as member of Slavic Confederation, Warsaw still can be capital.
Is Warsaw as a capital so important to you ? What would be better: part of something or a capital of nothing?
I can't imagine Poland and Russia in one Conferedation. 71% of Russians are considered themselves as Asians not Europeans and I think that you overestimate "Slavic blood" :) There are far more different reasons that determined our "membership" to Eurabia or Slavija than language or history.
And what's Slavija for you? Because I think we had something alike between 1955 and 1991 ... :) And it didn't work.
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
Life / Do Polish people help one another? [40]
If you are talking about helping strangers on the street that it has nothing to do with knowing them. It's natural we help our family, friends, neighbours etc.
Most of Poles are distrustfull and maybe that's the problem.
or maybe how well they want to know you? if they're curious about getting to know someone? on the other hand it's difficult to get to know a stranger in poland
If you are talking about helping strangers on the street that it has nothing to do with knowing them. It's natural we help our family, friends, neighbours etc.
Most of Poles are distrustfull and maybe that's the problem.
EchoTheCat
6 Feb 2010
Life / Do Polish people help one another? [40]
You really want to generalize something that can't be generalized. Are people from Gdynia helpfull ?:)
yes, they can lend you some thought, according to their qualifications or interests, but in my opinion they seem to be less practical in helping people the practical way
You really want to generalize something that can't be generalized. Are people from Gdynia helpfull ?:)
EchoTheCat
2 Feb 2010
Life / You are Polish if... [433]
I think I don't understand..... I'm trying...really hard but...nope I don't. Please explain those meals from foreigners :)))
you feel that it is ok not to say thanks when getting meals etc from foreigners.
I think I don't understand..... I'm trying...really hard but...nope I don't. Please explain those meals from foreigners :)))
EchoTheCat
2 Feb 2010
Life / You are Polish if... [433]
In high school we used to call our English teacher "Mazerowa" cause she pronounced "mother", "father", "sister" like "mazzzer", "fazzzzer" and "ziizzter" ;)
i live in Poeland, i've been to the UK only once and for short time. i don't have much contact with English, especially spoken English. but none of my English teachers(all were Polish) ever taught me the correct pronounciation of words
In high school we used to call our English teacher "Mazerowa" cause she pronounced "mother", "father", "sister" like "mazzzer", "fazzzzer" and "ziizzter" ;)
EchoTheCat
28 Jan 2010
EchoTheCat
28 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Szczyglinski Sluchaj, possibility of being Russian? [33]
There was a similar word in Anger Management "Goooseeesomethingelse" :)
You don't have to explain anything
There was a similar word in Anger Management "Goooseeesomethingelse" :)
You don't have to explain anything
EchoTheCat
27 Jan 2010
Life / Horribly cold in Krakow at the moment , how do you cope with such temperatures ? [124]
Ehhh you, who live in Krakow or Wroclaw are lucky to have mountains so near. I'm from Poznan and have to spend hours to get there. And to get to Bieszczady, which I like the most, it's 13 hours in a car :/
About the weather forecast, I don't believe them. :))
I really do hope so, because I'm going to climb on some small mountain during the weekend and get seriously drunk over there...
Ehhh you, who live in Krakow or Wroclaw are lucky to have mountains so near. I'm from Poznan and have to spend hours to get there. And to get to Bieszczady, which I like the most, it's 13 hours in a car :/
About the weather forecast, I don't believe them. :))
EchoTheCat
27 Jan 2010
Life / Horribly cold in Krakow at the moment , how do you cope with such temperatures ? [124]
People and their problems... :P
I thought I had a spot in my nose or something, I never thought the cold weather could do so much damage to my nostrils! Bloody annoying because your nose runs all the time in this cold and blowing it is rather sore!
People and their problems... :P