History / 75th anniversary of Stalin's 1937-38 anti-Poland genocide [32]

All these vicious thugs like Stalin and Yagoda were doing all these sick inhuman demonic things in RUSSIA. WHY WHY WHY didn't the Russians do anything about it?

They say Stalin's original name was some ethnic impronounceable ethnic Georgian name that he changed to "Stalin" to mean STEAL in Russian.

They say he changed his Russian name to appease the Russian population. So I guess if you're a dirty filthy mass murdering freak of nature like Stalin......as long as you walk and talk like a Russian but do all types of sicko devil like inhuman things to millions of other human beings.....that's AAAYYYY OK with the masses of Russians. What the hell? Why didn't these Russians do anything about this psycopath? Unless of course this vicious way of life is acceptable to the average Russian?

To this day.......after knowing how horrible Stalin was.... polls in Russia TODAY show that Russians in general feel that Stalin was the THIRD GREATEST RUSSIAN. What is with these people??????

News / US AMBASSADOR FEINSTEIN CALLED OFF FROM POLAND [14]

It seems some Poles and Polish Americans are now rejoicing that this anti-Polish fool is gone and are now singing "Ding Dong the witch is gone"

LOL

News / Marion Barry insults Polish people calling them "Polacks" [33]


You have an interesting point.

News / Marion Barry insults Polish people calling them "Polacks" [33]


Well this story was all over the news, so evidently many Poles and non-Poles felt it was newsworthy and a big deal.


Yes English language word "Polack" is from the Polish word "polak" and "Polack" has a harder sounding P and K sound which was used in a derogatory context during the 1960's and 70's TV shows where Polish people were slurred. It was part of that anti-Polish TV era of "Dumb Polack Jokes" which were meant to insult Polish people.


Well like I said in my first post, I give Marion Barry a pass as far as him saying the P-word maliciously. Its clear he was not saying the P-word to malign Poles. Ironically, he was using the word to sympathize with Polish people "catching hell" in the US.....which he is right about. His P-word comment was more said out of ignorance then anything else. But the story was newsworthy because most Poles and non-Poles thought an ex-mayor of Washington DC would know better than to use that word.

As for those unsophisticated Poles who use the P-word and parrot other Hollywood anti-Polish media messages like "dumb Polack" in an attempt to "co-opt them", that's no better than those Italians calling each other dumb waps or Jews calling each other hooked nosed Kikes or Blacks calling each other Niggers.

Is it so wrong for decent people to critique the crude language of others to raise the level of conversation? Or should we all just settle for crude unsophisticated language?


Yes......that's the point.


To your point, I have also heard white people say the P-word in a degrading way about Polish people, but I have ALSO heard white people and non-white people say it in a neutral way about Polish people.

But there are also people out there who use words like wop for Italians, Kike for jews, Nigger for Blacks in a non-deragatory way because they don't know better. Now MOST people know better then to use these terms for these groups because these groups have been vocal in the past, speaking out against these ethnic slurs about them.

News / Marion Barry insults Polish people calling them "Polacks" [33]

Hey pal relax.

I didn't create this story.

I'm just reporting on what's in the media about Polish people.

USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]

Yeah I will.

Tell me, what TV show that reached tens of millions of people for a decade in the 1970's and repeated many times afterwards......day after day after day called Irish or Jewish people "dumb meathead micks/harps" or "dumb meathead kikes" on an on going basis that CONDITIONED/BRAINWASHED tens of millions of people to think of Irish people or Jewish people as "dumb meathead Mics/Harps" or "Dumb Meathead Kikes" on and on going basis?

Please tell me.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]

I think 20 million is a conservative estimate for the Polish diaspora.

If you include, people who are 1/4 or 1/8 Polish, it would be much higher then 20 million.

Also, many ethnic Poles immigrating to America from 1795-1917 when Poland was occupied by Austria, Germany and Russia, were required to identify themselves as "Austrians", "Germans" and "Russians" since these countries controlled Poland from 1795-1917. So there are a lot of "undercover ethnic Poles" in America that aren't identified as being of Polish ancestry.

USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]


Nonsense.

Polish people in the past have taken more abusive jokes then most other ethnic groups.

Usually the people who accuse Polish people of "not having a sense of humor" or "reluctant to joke about themselves", are much more sensitive and uptight about jokes against their ethnic background then Poles are.

History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]

Interesting post.

People here can correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, Polish leader Tusk has decent relations with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Things will never be perfect between Germany and Poland (no neighboring nations have perfect relations) but considering their history, I think Poland and Germany today deserve credit for having cordial relations.

As even the German nationalist former blogger "Bratwurstboy" said in so many words, even if Germany is the leader of Europe "it makes things so much easier for Germany to have decent relations with its neighbors then not to do so". The same applies to Poland.

No matter how powerful or secure a nation may feel about itself, it is ALWAYS much more desirable for that nation to have decent relations with its neighbors. As Bratwurstboy said in so many words, life between neighboring nations is so much easier that way.... then to the contrary.

He is right about that and I think that notion is not lost upon both Germany and Poland today. Both countries deserve credit for realizing this and trying to be good neighbors to each other to the degree they can be.

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]


Really?

So you are saying countries all throughout the world don't have an immigration process where they allow some people and not allow others?

So you think countries like China, Japan, Russia, England, Britain, Germany, Israel, the United States, etc. don't have an immigration policy, where people wishing to be legal immigrants to these countries have to go through?

You do know that countries that have had lax immigration controls on people coming into their countries like the US, Britain, France and Germany are now starting to have a large conversation about tightening their immigration standards, because they are starting to see their old lax immigration standards have prompted many people coming into their countries who are exploiting these countries at the expense of the taxpayers of these countries.

History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]


What percentage of the Poles did this? And if they did, did they have a choice not to?

What would Moscow have done if all the Poles in Poland said NO to Moscow's Communist rule over Poland?

Would Stalin say, "Oh well I guess we should leave the Poles alone since they don't want to go along with my plans for Poland".


What does this mean?

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]

Well said ladykangaroo,

Its not necessarily "Patriotism" because somebody emphathizes and sympathizes with a certain person, group of people or nation.

I think everybody has the right to empathize or sympathize with anybody or anything they want. We see this all the time with sports teams that we root for....as a simple example.

I think its just human nature for people to empathize and sympathize with certain people, places and things. Why is this so wrong? Especially when somebody has family and ancestral connections to that group of people or nation and especially when sympathizers see that group of people/nation being maligned all the time?

By the way, the basis of the criticism of Poles for their "anti-semitism" is based on many in the international media who have "Patriotism" towards the Jewish people. I guess that kind of patriotism is ok but "patriotism" towards Polish people is not. Interesting double standards :(

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

What you say about the Serbs is unfair.

Shame on you.

The Serbs are good people.

God only knows what your real ancestry is.

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]

Indeed Poland was not an unflawed country. It has its bad elements just like any other nation.

There have been many anti-semitic acts in America, but you don't see the media or Jewish groups anywhere talk about "American anti-semitism".

In North Jersey/America there was a rabbi who had his house firebombed recently. In New York City there was graffiti on one of the "J Trains" that was turned into saying the "Jew Train". Why aren't any media or Jewish groups talking about "American anti-semitism"?

Google "Crown Heights Anti-semitic riots". This is where a Jewish guy was killed and a Jewish neighborhood was attacked by other Americans. Why NO accusations of "American anti-semitism"? Certainly if this happened in Poland the Liberal establishment media in Poland and the US and other countries would have a field day talking about "POLISH anti-semitism this" and "POLISH anti-semitism that".

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]


Are you serious? "Millions of Poles" have expressed my opinions that have defended Poland? Really? Although there are some Pro-Poland Poles on this forum, I just don't get the sense that there are a lot of Poles or people of Polish ancestry speaking out for Poland. But I could be wrong.


Well I am sorry to say, but I think you are reading things into my comments that are not true.
Especially when I have never said that "Poland is a great country". That is what you are saying about my intentions. Since you are bringing this up about my assumed intentions, can you kindly point out where I ever said "Poland is a great country"??

Frankly I don't think Poland is a great country. It is not a world power and relative to other countries like the US, Russia and most Western European countries , it is not a significant country. I just think it has been a maligned country. That's all.


Sorry to say but that is not true what you are reading into the things I say. As I even told critics of Poland like Delphiadomine, I am NOT patriotic towards Poland. I am not a Pole. I am American and I am firstly and only patriotic towards America since this is where I was born. All I have done here is speak out against what I feel have been unjust criticisms of my ancestral country.


So tell me Harry. In your opinion, has Poland treated Jews overall..... bad or good in your view?

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]

Well Wroclaw Boy......I don't know what to say. But even if you and I have some disagreements here, I just want to say.... I appreciate you and the other moderators letting me express my free speech and opinions here. :)

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]

I'm confused. I have no idea what you mean by that or why you feel prompted to say that or what relevance what you say has to do with this topic.

I am going to go out on a limb here and ask......are you saying that to me because you think I am being "overly patriotic" because I am asking simply why Poles are rarely given credit for anything positive they have done for Jews and are only being defined by the percieved negative things they have done against Jews?

I just don't get it.

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]


With all due respect Wroclaw Boy,

Poland is hardly a great country according to the majority of the people on this forum who happen to be Poland-haters who are always itching to find fault with Poland.

There is very little "303 squadron won the war mentality" here in this forum.

The predominant sentiment in this forum is "What is another reason why Poles are a terrible horrible bad "anti-semitic" people that don't deserve credit for anything and should only be bashed?" :(

History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]


No they are not in general. That is a loaded remark by you in which you are trying to provoke anti-Polish prejudice by it.


That’s another loaded anti-Polish remark by you saying that “in general” Poles think this or that.

Although I'm sure some Poles may feel that way, do you really think Poles think anymore than Russians, Jews, Italians, Brits, Americans, etc to have this idealistic view about there own people?


How do you know that? And if true, should Poland get any credit for giving Jews a place to live where they could contribute to science? Or maybe you think it should be taken for granted that Poles gave Jews a place to live?

Life / If a Pole says something it must be wrong - a prejudice? [25]

I'm from the West and I don't dismiss everything the Poles say.

I think in general the West is thinking about the West and is not thinking about Poland one way or the other and that's OK. Its human nature for Western countries (or any country) to be concerned mostly with themselves and what's immediately around them.

Those people from the West who come to this forum to "dismiss" what the Poles have to say, actually care a lot what the Poles and people of Polish ancestry say here, otherwise they wouldn't spend all their time and energy here. Most of them are prejudiced against Polish people, despite whatever they say. So that's why they come to this forum. They come here to be anti-Polish trolls.


That's because you are prejudiced against Poles. But whatever the Poles do, I'm sure its nowhere as funny or ridiculous as your English.

Also your video is not of a Pole but of a Russian diving into the water.

News / More anti Polish sentiment in western media ("Apple is worth more than Poland") [110]

PlasticPole,

I think you described the portrayal of the Polish character "Michael Stivic" of "All in the Family" perfectly.

Although he had some redeeming qualities, in that he seemed to have a good heart.......he was mostly the object of ridicule, a bafoon and half the time he appeared cavemannish.

News / More anti Polish sentiment in western media ("Apple is worth more than Poland") [110]

CBS started "All in the Family" when it saw how NBC-TV was going crazy making various shows pushing ethnic insults, mostly at Poles.

Yes Archie mocked many ethnic groups, but some groups were mocked more frequently and worse then others.

The Polish people were mocked the most as far as actual number of ethnic insult sound bites if you added them up. Also the only Nazi stereotype used in the show was the Nazi one about Polish people. Archie never used Nazi stereotypes about Jews. Did he ever call Jews "K-kes"? He used the word Hebe which is not as bad as "K-ke" and many of his remarks about Jews were MILD. Correct me if I'm wrong but he never portrayed the Jews as people who "look and act like RATS". That's how the Nazis joked about the Jews. The Nazis joked about how the Polish people have inferior intelligence which was always on the tip of Archie's tongue.

Archie joked about how Jews are "cheap and stingy". WOW!!! Well Wooptee doo!! How degrading!!!! LOL Its almost a complement since it shows Jews are good at budgeting their money.

Archie joked about how the Germans "like to March". WOW!!! Well Wooptee doo!! How degrading!!!! LOL Its not like Archie made Lampshade jokes about the Germans.


Are you kidding me? With the exception of a couple shows where Mike had some good come back answers to Archie and his Polish family was portrayed in a positive light (token shows) half of the time Mike was portrayed as a bafoon and slob who was deserving of Archie's anti-Polish insults. Like when Mike had cereal coming out of his mouth, or how Mike didn't have a job and was leaching off of Archie. The TV viewer was prompted to agree with most of Archie's anti-Polish slurs.

If the purpose of the show was to show Archie's bigotry was wrong, the producer of the show did a bad job of it. As the Anti-Defamation League said, the Archie Bunker character GLORIFIED Archie Bunker's bigotry. Norman Lear know his talk of "making fun of bigotry" is a ruse. Everyone knows that.

Archie bunker was called "the loveable bigot" by other elements of the American media and the American people themselves!! How can that be? Isn't that an oxymoron??

I and many other Polish Americans used to hear people who just watched "All in the Family" say things like "I AM SO GLAD THAT ARCHIE GAVE IT TO THAT DUMB MEATHEAD POLACK!!!" They were SIDING WITH ARCHIE BUNKER against the Polish people!!!

I used to remember thinking to myself.......My God its just a MADE UP SHOW. This Archie Bunker guy is FICTIONAL. But through the TREMENDOUS POWER OF TV MEDIA on the human brain......these people actually felt like Archie Bunker and the "Meathead Dumb Polack" were REAL!!!!

I used to remember people going up to Polish Americans whenever they made a mistake and say to them.....You are like that MEATHEAD DUMB POLACK I see on TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have never heard anyone say anything bad about the "All in the Family" show. The show was designed by Norman Lear to be LAPPED UP by the American people and to INSERT bigotry into American culture especially anti-Polish bigotry. Norman Lear was even reported to make anti-Polish slurs after the show was broadcasted. His Archie Bunker character reflected his own anti-Polish Bigotry.


How do they mock Jews?? That Jews are cheap?? That Jewish mothers are tough?? OH MY GOD Such anti-Jewish Bigotry!! How horrible!! LOL!!

Can you reference one SNL show that made fun of Jews the way the Nazis made fun of the Jews??? Is there one show where the face of a Jew was mocked as being a "funny looking rat"? Is there one show where a Jew is called a rat because of his Jewish ancestry? Just name me one SNL show like this.

If SNL can ridicule the Poles in the same way the Nazis did, certainly they can also ridicule the Jews the way the Nazis did.

Or is Nazi propaganda only acceptable and PC when Polish people are the target?

News / More anti Polish sentiment in western media ("Apple is worth more than Poland") [110]


You say a SATIRIST on Saturday Night Live made a "Polish joke". REALLY?? A SATIRIST?

What is a Satirist? Definition of Satirist

dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire

A Satirist basically uses negative humor or ridicule in a constructive criticism kind of way. For example satire is commonly used to target corrupt politicians to point out their wrongs so that hopefully they don't repeat their wrongs.

Tell me? What did the Polish pilot or Polish people in general do WRONG when the Polish pilot heroically saved hundreds of lives, that this "Satirist" Seth Meyers was mocking? Satire is used to mock things that are wrong in order to change them.

No Seth Meyers thought it was WRONG that the rest of the fair minded media was putting out a story that was POSITIVE about Poland and Polish people because Seth Meyers is an anti-Polish Bigot.

Could you imagine if somebody non-Jewish (especially Polish) used satire to mock Seth Meyers and his Jewish ancestry for things that they think he has done wrong?

Why the double standard?

The Arab media uses satire and jokes all the time directed at Jews and Israel, which Jews absolutely do not dismiss as being "satire" or just "jokes",

The Nazis also used satire and jokes directed at Jewish people. In fact Seth Meyers uses the same kind of anti-Polish jokes that the Nazis used against Polish people. But I can at least understand the Nazis degrading Polish people since they were at war with Poland.


Sure I can forgive a comedian for some ethnic insult jokes against Polish people or anybody else for that matter....if it was a mistake. I get it. Everyone makes mistakes. I do believe people should be forgiven for mistakes. I don't believe in "Never forgive and Never forget".

But if somebody makes some jokes that mocks Jews.......you have no problem forgiving them? If somebody thinks jokes about the appearance of Jews is funny......you have no problem forgiving them? Or if somebody uses satire jokes about Jews looking and acting like rats directed at corrupt Jews like Bernie Madoff.....you have no problem with that?

As for Seth Meyers and NBC-TV, when these anti-Polish hate jokes are part of a PATTERN from a Network like NBC-TV that has been doing it for DECADES......then I know the people at NBC-TV did NOT do it mistakenly and its part of a systematic malicious hate campaign against the Polish people, as the Polish American Guardian Society and other Polish American groups have pointed out.

Also why is it that people that are so thin skin about perceived "anti-semitic" comments are so quick to tell Polish people that they are "thin skinned" about Anti-Polish slurs?


What?

LOL

"Rocky IV" ridiculed Russians??? Really?

Where were the anti-Russian jokes in "Rocky IV"?

I thought "Rocky IV" glorified Russia with the virtual superman Ivan Drago boxer.

News / More anti Polish sentiment in western media ("Apple is worth more than Poland") [110]


Well jason NBC-TV for 5 decades has been pretty much making ethnic slur jokes about Polish people that were meant to condition the American public to view Polish people as having subhuman intelligence. The American people would then imitate these ethnic slurs about Polish people. It was like, monkey see.....monkey do.

The peak of these anti-Polish joke slurs was in the 1970's when American TV was broadcasting them the most into the living rooms of tens of millions of homes in America. These anti-Polish joke slurs in America in general declined significantly since the 1970's because the broadcast of these anti-Polish "joke" slurs declined significantly as more Polish Americans complained about them.

But there is still that residual anti-Polish prejudice that pops up its ugly head every now and then in the TV media. LIKE AT NBC-TV!!

Here is a good example of where a Polish guy did something intelligent and positive, but NBC-TV's anti-Polish BIgot Seth Meyers turned it into something negative against the Polish people.

Last November there was a positive story about the Polish pilot who miraculously landed his plane in Warsaw and saved hundreds of lives. NBC-TV.......surprise surprise......TWISTED it and had their resident anti-Polish Bigot Seth Meyers make it look like the Polish pilot had subhuman intelligence and that Polish people are backward and in general have subhuman intelligence.

polishamericanreview.com

History / Polish Officer in NATO, Col. Ryszard Kukliński. [145]


Well I appreciate your honesty on you saying you have no loyalty towards Poland, even though you have chose to live in Poland.

History / Polish Officer in NATO, Col. Ryszard Kukliński. [145]


According to...*cough*.....HARRY LOL

Just kidding Harry.


As for people who have betrayed Poland past and present.....OK....my turn.......What's your real name?

lol

History / Polish Officer in NATO, Col. Ryszard Kukliński. [145]


What is your real name?

History / Polish Officer in NATO, Col. Ryszard Kukliński. [145]

Yes some are still in charge. They are the Enemy Within Poland.


This looks like the actions of the Enemy Within of Poland and or their lackeys.