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natasia   
10 Nov 2012
Law / What kombi/estate car to buy in Poland? [7]

VW mechanicals

I don't know that VW mechanics are anything to want ... every VW we have ever had has only been 'reliable' until something important blew and it cost thousands to repair ... every single one ... talking probably 10 cars over a period of 12 years, here.

We now have BMWs, and they have the kind of solidity and craftsmanship that I think people associated with VW once.

I would go for something unlikely to break down, but nothing is ultimately reliable. If you get a BMW or Audi, couldn't you get it fixed in Germany if anything went wrong? I don't know how prices are in Poland for servicing of those marques.

If it were me, I'd go for BMW, Audi or Mercedes. They cost more because they're better.
natasia   
8 Nov 2012
Love / Polish mother, possible UK father - child law Poland. [35]

Like I said, play along, say you will sign, but DNA test first, then sign birth cert but don't sign that crazy paper ... like enkidu said ... like Harry said.

One thing is sure: she has A PLAN. And that plan certainly isn't designed to promote your well-being, you can bet on that. Or the kid's really. It is her plan. To have things arranged as she wants it.

You were a sperm bank.
Now you are going to be bank rolling her life.
If you aren't careful.
natasia   
8 Nov 2012
Love / Polish mother, possible UK father - child law Poland. [35]

sorry - to be fair I was actually thinking about when Poles in the UK go to the Embassy in London - then it seems that both parents and child have to be there - I did question that, but everyone said that was how it has to be. Maybe it isn't true, but that is what they have all been led to believe : )

If he is the father, he should support, but also have the chance to be a father. Not pay but relinquish all responsibilities, rights and access. That is just using him, and also is not good for the child.

Maybe she went to a sperm bank ...
natasia   
8 Nov 2012
Love / Polish mother, possible UK father - child law Poland. [35]

I am a bit confused by all of this.

First, you say your girlfriend, but she sounds I think like your ex.
She wants to have the baby for herself and not have you involved.
You have good reason to think you might not be the father.
She was desperate to have a child, obviously the biological clock was ticking, and she made it clear she didn't want to waste any time with you if you weren't going to have a child with her. Either the child is someone else's, or she got pregnant by some sort of trick, without your knowledge/consent.

Ok.

So why does she now pop up and want you on the birth cert, so the child has a certified father, but want you to sign away the joint rights of a parent, so she doesn't need to ask you whenever she wants to organise anything for the child? If she doesn't want you interfering, then why have you on the birth cert at all?

I think ...

You probably are the father, BUT, you must have the DNA test as soon as the child is born.

You might not be the father - she might have done any number of things to get pregnant - but she, whether you are or aren't, wants a father on the cert.

There are only two reasons she would want you on there, having previously (before the lawyer's visit) said she didn't want you.

1. She doesn't want 'father unknown' on there as that sounds kind of slutty on her part.
2. If a father is named, he can be forced to provide child support.

I suspect No. 2 is uppermost in her mind ...

Basically, she wants you to pay, but she doesn't want you to be involved, and she doesn't want to have to negotiate with you when she has to do anything for the child (in Poland you can't even send off for the kid's passport - both parents must be physically present, and the child, to fix it).

No question of this - I know my answers:

1. Tell her you can't do anything until the child is born and a DNA test is done.
2. Tell her that if you are the father, you will go on the birth cert and sign the form she wants.
3. Have the DNA test.
4. If you are the father, go on the birth cert but then say you have changed your mind and want contact with your child and will not sign the form she wants.

And then, be involved in some way in your child's life. She can't stop you having access to the child. You will probably have to go through the courts, but so be it.

Do not sign up to pay but give up all rights and give her all the power. No way. She will only do what suits her, and you are only, and have only ever been, a pawn here.

But the real truth is that you might - if you are very lucky - have a son or daughter on the way. You are right to realise that although you thought you didn't want a kid, maybe you will change your mind.

And let's face it: every child has a right to know their father, and to love and be loved by their father. Do you want to lose out on that? Not if you have learnt anything in all these decades you've been around ... : ) Come on. The joy of seeing your child grow up really is something special. If you've been given this, make the most of it.

She doesn't want you in it because she wants all that pleasure for herself. But your child would suffer, of course, if he or she thought their dad didn't want anything to do with them. That would be an awful burden to set your own family off with. This is your flesh and blood. This person is all of you, and all of her. OK, yes, her DNA is there as well - but just wait until you see yours coming out in the child, and you will feel different, I think.

But at the moment: hold fire: tell her DNA test first, everything else after.

She is a sly bugger, that's for damn sure. Don't trust her.
natasia   
5 Nov 2012
Love / Observations and experiences so far about Polish women [93]

A more positive way of looking at things would be to say that Polish women link love

Yes, of course it is - what I meant was that one can take certain strong characteristics, and present them as either positive or negative - and however one does so is very subjective.

Personally I think Polish women have a lot going for them, but are a very strong type, and not to be undertaken lightly, as it were.

And as for British women not linking love and sex, not being good home-makers, and not being involved in the sack ... careful there ... I for one then presumably am not British, by that definition ... which again reminds us of the fact that all stereotyping is just that ...
natasia   
4 Nov 2012
Love / Observations and experiences so far about Polish women [93]

The most distinctive features that I have noticed across the board with most Polish women is that:

- They do, yes, expect to have a boyfriend/husband from 18 onwards, and do not have high expectations in terms of who they take - it is a bit like finding a partner at school - everyone has to be with someone. This is a massive difference with, e.g, British women, who have been brought up with mixed messages about relationships, compromise, perfection, and mostly what is our 'due' - a fractured culture that has bred a lot confusion, casual relationships, alcoholism and general misery until people finally work out what is important (usually in their 30s at some point), but hey, that isn't the question here ...

- They don't have a problem cooking/washing/cleaning/looking after a guy ... in fact, they are keen to have a guy on whom they can practise their female prowess in these areas, and show off to their girlfriends. It is a matter of female pride - how clean the house, how well-pressed the guy's clothes, how well-fed he is, how perfumed the lady. So totally different from 'emancipated' women who have been brought up to insist on sharing chores and beyond (to the point where the downtrodden guys usually do all the washing-up ...) and who would not dream of ironing a shirt or sheet, let alone a pair of boxers (one of my favourite occupations now, I have to say, but it took me a few years to embrace the pleasure) ...

- They generally say they would absolutely refuse to indulge in oral sex (but I have no idea whether that is just a front of modesty ... )

So you could, I suppose, translate that into they are man-grabbing, possessive, traditional, opinionated, narrow-minded, frigid mini-matriarchs (if we are talking about the ones in their 20s) ... but would that be fair, I wonder?
natasia   
3 Nov 2012
Language / Beginner learner of Polish having trouble with nouns - they change as well as numbers? [27]

kobiet, kobiety, kobieta...when do I use them?

One of the main structural principles in Polish is the same as in lots of other languages (German, Greek, Latin, Russian, lots more ...). It is really important to grasp, because we hardly play around with nouns in English, but nouns have lots of different forms in Polish and these other languages.

Basically, in English you have:

dog
dog's
dogs

- and those are your three noun forms.

In Polish, for starters you have a different form for each of these contexts (PLEASE NOTE: THE POLISH UNDERNEATH IS A JOKE):

The DOG went for a walk.
Dog poszedl na spacer ...

The bicycle ran over the DOG.
Rower rozjechal Doga ...

The boy stood on the DOG'S tail.
Chlopiec stal na ogonka Doga ...

Tell the DOG all about it.
Powiedz Dogowy o tym wszystkim ...

I am thinking about the DOG.
Mysle, o Doga ...

I am a DOG.
Jestem Dogem.

Hey, DOG!
Hej, Dogu!

... and then the same again for the plural.

You might think this makes life difficult, but actually it defines life and action in a more precise way than English, and as such is rather satisfying, I find.

And yes, words which describe the nouns (adjectives, numbers, etc.) do have to follow suit, as it were.

My advice: grasp the principles, then learn actual words and how they go in small, simple steps.

Good luck ...
natasia   
2 Nov 2012
Language / What has been the hardest language for you to learn? [81]

Russian to me is so soft, melodious and beautiful that speaking it is a pleasure.

Yes, spent all last night listening to Russian friends, and it was gossamer-soft compared to Polish ...

I am sure it will be an Aston Martin for you Natasia, you know Greek and Polish already.....

Wow, you must have remembered that from some other post, a good while ago ... I didn't mention the Greek this time ... but as for Russian being my Aston Martin (always my car of choice) - hmm - wouldn't that be too perfect? I hardly dare hope.

It appeals, though, Russian, doesn't it? Seems an almost unbearably romantic language to me. But then that's all those writers and composers working on me. How not to be seduced by Tolstoy and Rachmaninov?
natasia   
2 Nov 2012
Language / What has been the hardest language for you to learn? [81]

Polish by comparison is actually easier for an Anglo-Saxon to learn than vice versa

I actually agree. And if that Anglo-Saxon has spent 8 years studying Caesar's Gallic Wars and other such delightful Latin texts, then Polish is a breeze - I mean, people really SPEAK Polish!! You can go to a bar and LISTEN to it! Cool. Easy. Nice.

Honestly, I really don't find Polish that hard. Now either I am an idiot, or a genius, or showing off, or ... Polish isn't that hard. It is easier than Latin, for damn sure. And for some reason I find it easier than German. Spanish and Italian are like dodgems in terms of language - point and go; French is hard to put in gear, and makes strange noises; Polish is a sports car that drives easier than it looks.

Now my next challenge is going to be ... Russian. That DOES sound tricksy. Is it?
natasia   
25 Oct 2012
Love / Polish husband threatens divorce and wants to send me back to Asia [15]

He can't make you have an abortion, and he can't divorce you after two months and have you deported.
You need to go straight to a lawyer and find out your situation. I am pretty sure he also can't just leave you abandoned with nowhere to live and no money, and pregnant with his child, as well.
natasia   
24 Oct 2012
Language / Lubicie, pamiętacie, mówicie [5]

Am I directing toward a group of people?

well, it is the second person PLURAL, so yes, you would be addressing at least two people ...
natasia   
19 Oct 2012
Love / How can I make my Polish guy comfortable while in States? [12]

Are there any things culturally done accomodate goodwill with his family?

Bowing and scraping. Buying presents. But not much you can really do, because they know the score: as a result of you, he is going away. Simple. I think you need to emphasise this isn't a forever plan.
natasia   
19 Oct 2012
Life / Poles and the temperatures they heat their homes [36]

It's that ridiculous Polish idea that you have to do certain things "bo zmarzniesz"

Slippers, slippers, and, I say again ... Slippers.

I once went on a little trip to a lake with lots of Polish family, in two cars. We got there. Even though we were in the UK, it was unusually, genuinely hot - about 32 degrees. I thought the smallest member of la famille, who was not yet 1, was not with us - because he wasn't anywhere to be seen. After half an hour or so of strolling round in the roast, eating a couple of ice lollies, etc, suddenly he was produced, from inside ... a locked people carrier. He was as purple as a beetroot, and clad in ... TIGHTS. Tights. Blimey. That says it all, for me.

Bonkers.
natasia   
17 Oct 2012
Food / What made in Poland produce would you recommend [110]

Warning! it isn`t another thread about Polish beautiful women/handsome men

Pity because yes, I was going to say Polish produce - my two beautiful children ; )

But ok ... if you ask ... this summer I found some astonishing tomatoes in Poland. Like, tomatoes from Greece. From a hot Mediterranean country. They were amazing. I brought a whole Ryanair cabin bag full of them home. And they didn't cost £1.99 each.
natasia   
9 Oct 2012
Love / Understanding Polish men and when they are flirting [4]

Polish men go in for the kill pretty quickly. They like to close the deal. They will get you as soon as you can. It is up to you how long that takes, but generally they will be very persistent.
natasia   
9 Oct 2012
Love / My Girlfriends Decisions! Am I overreacting? British guy with Polish girlfriend. [11]

I don't think I have enough information to judge this.

You say she had only known him a month, and he was staying overnight. Why was he staying? Did he not have a home? Is he sleeping on people's floors because of not being able to be with his girlfriend?

Ok, yes, I agree, he sounds like a bit of an unstable type, and probably trying to take advantage of your girl in some way. HOWEVER, it was her choice, and hers to make. Who else lives at her house?

As for him being dangerous, etc ... he just sounds like a typical hot-headed Pole. They are a type. They always get into trouble. They drink, fight, and certainly resist arrest. They are just very 'male' - too male. So I don't think he is particularly dangerous - probably not at all - he just gets into fights too easily.

I think, though, that unfortunately you have crossed a cultural line with your girlfriend. I don't know what your cultural background is, but certainly in the above scenario a fellow Pole would have probably congratulated his efforts to resist arrest, consoled him over not being able to be at home, and offered him a drink and a bed for the night. Probably this is what your girl was trying to do, and you wouldn't let her. And she didn't like this, because it undermined her. It is rather telling that she chose the side of the relative stranger with a dodgy past, but maybe she felt some sympathy and compatriotism with him. Either way, I suspect this will have a big effect on your relationship.

And do you really want to be with a girl who is so different from you? Think about it.
natasia   
4 Aug 2012
Life / Why are Polish so conservative and religious? [240]

Why are Poles so conservative? Why are Poles so religious? Why are Poles so uptight about nudity and swearing?

I'm sorry? I guess my past two husbands weren't really Polish, then! What, more lies and deceit? ; )
natasia   
21 Jul 2012
Love / 'Seks po polsku' - the sex lives of Poles: [45]

You would have to ask them. And, of course, they would lie. Even if they have less sex than their wives ...

What is all this nonsense about Polish guys being coy little virgins? Have never heard such b**locks in all my life! They are so very up-front, and up for it. They really are. The difference is: they get girlfriends at 14 as well, but are much more careful. Then they get married at 20, and they have lots of kids. And lots of sex.

So instead of, like the Brits, stumbling around drunk and stupid and getting into all sorts of trouble, they are at home, saving money, feeling secure because they have nice kids sleeping in their cots, and they (the parents ...) having frequent sex in the bathroom. That is how it works.

When I first went to Poland, I sat in a street cafe and gawped at the sheer volume of sexy guys walking down the street. Then someone pointed out that there was only one problem with them: they were all married. True. And having sex.

My verdict: Polish guys are highly-sexed. They are usually pretty fit, in all respects. They generally have more sex that their British counterparts. More sex ... but with one person. Which is actually the better kind of sex. And, because they are sexually confident, they are sexier men to be around. Even if married.
natasia   
26 Jun 2012
Life / Freelance English teacher - Are Polish people unreliable? They continually cancel lessons... [22]

Not practised in Poland.

I always practised that ... and it worked ... but then again, I was adored by all my students (especially the teenage boys ; ) ....

MY THOUGHTS:

Poles aren't exactly unreliable, but what they are is pretty ruthless, and they will usually do what is right for them, without any scruples.

You might get the odd lesson missed, but usually only due to genuine reasons, and usually made up and accompanied by a lot of apology.

If you are getting a lot of cancellation/not paying, I'm afraid to say that is because they probably aren't happy with the lessons. They won't be English and say 'sorry, this just isn't working out' - they will just vote with their feet.

Sorry to say that, but my advice is: think about how you are as a teacher, and how good your lessons are, and how satisfied your clients are. Students who enjoy the lessons and feel they are worth it will not cancel, and will pay.
natasia   
5 Jun 2012
Love / It is more fun to have sex in Polish than in English. Discuss. [27]

.Why would I want someone wittering on in a lauguage I didnt understand whilst

well no, I meant in a foreign language which you also understand and speak. I was talking more about you expressing yourself in that language.

And as for France, I was joking.
natasia   
2 Jun 2012
Love / It is more fun to have sex in Polish than in English. Discuss. [27]

Well, always remember not to talk with your mouth full!

no, you're right - very rude to do that, and i am English, so try to be polite at all times ...

with such generalisations

actually it was a small, particular detail from a French exchange when I was 15 ... the French girl's father smelt of garlic and took me on the TGV from Paris to Evian, and gave me only a ham sandwich WITH NO BUTTER IN IT to eat ... I was so distressed at the barbarity of a ham sandwich without beurre that I thought I would go and cry in the very fast wc, which, to my utter horror, was just a hole in the ground (and the ground was going by at 500 km/h visible through that hole ... or so it seemed to my disorientated self).

oh, i tried to like it in France. I sort of did. But it was all a bit more earthy than I had expected. I like Poles. They are very clean. All over.

And I find Polish a very sexy language. As it is an acquired language for me, it is something in which I can lose myself, without shame ...

As for whether one or another accent/language is more or less conducive in the bedroom ... I think it's just the speaking a language not your own that is good. Although I have to say I'm also not sure about Liverpudlian ; )
natasia   
1 Jun 2012
Love / It is more fun to have sex in Polish than in English. Discuss. [27]

There's definitely a whimsical, lyrical nature to Polish, which is very grounded and airy at the same time. It's like a sturdier French, whose lyrical sensibilities are much too twee for me.

I could have said that myself. You are extremely very totally right (as Lola would say, if you know Charlie and Lola ...).

French is all twirls and slightly too-thin men, with garlic under their manicured finger nails. Polish has that amazing faux-Russian Dr Zhivago-but-not-quite-so-far Tolstoy-but-a-bit-nearer-and-they-don't-execute-royal-familes sort of thing going on ... and, shifting decades, Polish has a 1970s Slavic chic that just kills me.

There is something raw and noble about Polish, and the juxtaposition of that and startlingly humble surroundings is just delightful. Or perhaps I read 'Lady Chatterley' at an impressionable age and am now just transferring ...
natasia   
31 May 2012
Love / It is more fun to have sex in Polish than in English. Discuss. [27]

Now obviously I had a problem here when categorizing this post - 'Relationships, Marriage' ? Or perhaps 'Sports, Recreation' ? But then I plumped for 'General Language', as this really is primarily a linguistic issue, although it will involve exploration of some other areas, shall we say.

I say that because I have a theory (and I'm sure I am not the only one to have stumbled upon this truth) that when speaking an adopted language, rather than one's mother tongue, one has the opportunity to re-invent oneself, and may find new resonances with this new language and one's personality/desires/world view/etc. ... which one has found hard to express in the mother tongue, which was inherited, rather than chosen. Language seems to me to be an expression of culture in the deepest, most intriguingly complex way. And so: I am a different person in Polish. And, interestingly, but perhaps rather worryingly, prolonged exposure (or prolonged periods of being a different person) have changed the way I am even in English ... I am more assertive, less patient, bolder, more self-aware, less of a ditherer ... and, whereas I think I would now feel rather self-conscious and affected having sex in English, I find it strangely, or otherwise, far more natural in Polish.

Am I alone in this?
(well, obviously not ; ) ... but in this slipping into another language and finding that less exposed, somehow, than sex in one's own language?

Ok. Answer that one.
natasia   
31 May 2012
Life / You've been in Poland a while if .... [49]

you pepper your English with Polish words because the Polish words fit better what you're trying to say

oh yes, jimmy, you are right there ... so right. and when you start saying things like 'they' when referring to the door or your hair ...
natasia   
30 May 2012
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

well that sounds like a compliment indeed and as i am pretty fxxxxg miserable tonight, thank you ... it has now made me cry because it is something nice as opposed to all the horrible things i have been hearing today ... (long story) ...

which will no doubt be swiftly deleted as not on topic so let's make it so, shall we? With another on-topic generalization such as:

-

I mean, c'mon, you live in Oxford. If you were to bend over you'd spill the tea and knock over the little triangular sandwiches!!!
And I know, ladies don't bend over, they bend their knees and lower themselves gracefully, don't they???

Polish guys don't like Polish women to be with Englishmen because they suspect he will put a teapot, some teacups (and saucers), and a sugar bowl with a fluted silver spoon, on the floor, and ask her to pour the tea without bending her knees ... and then the swine will force her to drink it WITH MILK. Criminal.
natasia   
29 May 2012
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

only yesterday I read a post from you advertising for a Polish husband!!!

oh no that old rubbish ... that was a joke post and dated some years ago ... it gives the wrong impression ... haven't worked out how to delete it ... it seems indelible ...

not that there is anything wrong with a high sex drive, i guess. but combined with abrasive requests for tea on't table and that women should be seen and not heard ... no thanks. too much like bondage for me. ties that tight would hurt, and I really don't like emotional pain.

I wonder how the Polish ladies feel about that, though? I don't think it hurts them. I think they just switch off. One of the phrases I have heard commonly repeated is 'Men are not People'. I always find it a rather sinister reflection on how the female-male thing works in Poland ...