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Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

us which of the donors listed here are those "front groups

Infant school again? No, that's part of your agent of infleunce MO. When necessary play dumb, reduce things to the absurd, confuse your opponents. You know as well as most people (maybe lower-case doesn't, but he's not very bright) that front groups do not list themselves as such. And the flow of funds makes it difficult to determine who is bankrolling whom.

For ddetails contact the MSW spokesman.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

given a certain villa back to the state which once owned the property

How do you know? Any evidence? What if it never was state proeprty but was
sold on the open market by a private estate agent? Yes, they had those back then, but how would you know. Your knowledge of Poland comes from the Kosher Courier and other simlarly dodgy sources.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Which of the below

Are you still in infant school? Those may be the officially published donors. The real sponsors are off n the shadows. They don't bankroll directly but through front groups, subsidiaries, special funds, NGOs, universities, etc. in such a way that tracing it back to them is quite a challenge. But, like it or not, that is how the world operates -- governmnets, special services, companies, institutions and mega-

corporations as well as Soros and his multitude of NGOs. Still Błaszczak's interior ministry found a reason to withdraw Open Dialogue's arms-dealing permit aready back in June before Kramek started calling for a Polish Maidan to overthrow the good-change govenrment.

If you had intended to act out what it takes to be a good agent of influence, you couldn't have done a better job. You are a textbook example. They always produce documents, sometimes swamp their vicitms with paperwork and parrot indefensible falsehoods believing like Hitler's crew that a lie repeated 100 times becomes the truth.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

plenty of evidence

Find yourself a translator and get a load of this:
wiadomosci.tvp.pl/8219091/sponsorzy-fundacji-otwarty-dialog

Ask yourself, what interest would Russia's sole producer of atomic submarines and a naval armaments company in Russian-occupied Crimea have in promoting democracy in Poland. A putsch maybe, but not democracy!
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

he is above reproach

You are playing the "useful idiot" role to the hilt. First you parrot some intenable notion (eg Soros is a great, selfless and wholly altruistic philanthropist) and when confronted you allege that the source exploidng your claim is unreliable or otherwise stonewall. Find out why Soros is feared, suspect and unwelcome in different countries:

washingtonfeed.com/massive-movement-to-overthrow-george-soros-explodes-in-macedonia.html

there is no proof

Yes, but there are indications. I might be a Soros agent, but I would have to be; 1) a materialist and/or 2) someone to whom his anarcho-leftist-libertine agenda is acceptable. HB by contrast displays all the hallmarkss of an ideal agent of influence. Why else would he live and work in a coutnry he hates, derides its people, culture, tradiitons, religion, food, industry and most everything else as "crappy" if someone wasn't handsomely paying him to. Besides he is a matrialist, hedonist and cynic, the ideal attributes of a good agent of influence.
Polonius3   
3 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

there's no question of wrongdoing by the foundation

How do you know? Did you personally run a thorough-going audit? Or were you briefed by your guru and handler HB? You, jon. aren't bright enough to be an agent of influence, that's why they chose HB. But never fear. In the overall scheme of things you do qualify to be what Lenin called a "useful idiot". Such a one dutifully parrots what the agent of influence happens to be peddling at a given point in time.

And I must admit, you'r quite good at that, so hang in there!
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

very high level work they do.

Such organisations at times puruse their own agenda, even a worthwhile one. But in exchange for getting generously bankrolled they grant their sponsors access to the countries they're registered in (re Open Dialogue to Poland), may serve as dirty-money laundries or to infilitrate the host government's structures.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

entirely above suspicion

The Foundation is clearly a "słup" (front or pawn) serving those who are bankrolling it. No front organisation openly states "we are a front organisation bankrolled by.... for the purpose of....." Instead they spout pious platitudes about how they are totally devoted to the natural environment, democracy, saving historical monuments or some endnagered species, etc. NGOs, whci afre lawys in need of grants, are an exceptionally convenient tool for covering up the hidden agenda of organisations, corproations, entire governments or just their security services.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

fascism always needs "hiddden enemies"

Typical reaction tactic. Like making fun of conspiracy theories except one finds them at every turn. PO are always looking for ulterior motives in PiS' ranks -- Szyszko opposes the EU anti-logging order becuase he probably has contracted the timber with some commercial company. If that's true he will surely deny it or find some fancy excuse. That is part and parcel of the way the world worfs -- IBM, Siemens, Sony, GM, VW, not to mention state intelligence services. Call them hidden enemies if you like, but one side is trying to get a preview of the competitor's latest designs and the competitor is trying to prevent it or send the intelligence-gatherers on a wild goose chase (disinformation). Espionage services want to know what some rival country is planning and that country's counter-intelligence aims to nip such attemtps in the bud. An arrangement as old as human history.

They are not

How do you know? It seems you are feeding your Hairy guru the exact ripostes he wants to hear.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

paperwork and reports

One can create paperwork and reports to support any idea, campaign, movement hypothesis or claim. And that was the case even before the cyber-era. Those employing agents of influence have an excellent grasp of human pschology -- esp. human greed. So in every government, institution, coporation or other body (UN, EU, OSCE, churches, civic organsiaitons, ewtc.) there are "plants" whose task is to collect intelligecne, dsptread disinformation, sabotage or whatever their masters have ordered htem to do. I wouldn't be eurpised if there are few such people even in the PiS administration. That has always been the case, and those who try to deny it give themselves away as either being extremely gullible and taking everything at face value or, more likely, serving as agents of influence themselves.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Care to read the documents for yourself?

Now that the cat's out of the bag and the "agent of inlfuence" hypothesis is becoming increasingly plausible, you should chill out a bit. Immediately producing official documents only confirms your organsational and tactical dexterity and shows you are plugged into some institutional setup and have all necessary "evidence" needed to pusue your mission at your fingertips.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

Here's a list of the 'weapons'

Congratulations. You had me fooled. Some of your naive claims made me wonder why a fairly intelligent person would believe such official codswallop. Now it all falls into place. You are an agent of influence. An agent of influence insists that purported statements, façades and official pronoucements are genuine and above all they deny they are agents of inlfuence.

Of course Open Dialogue, especially those backing it in the shadows, do not publish their true aims, MO and expenses. It's all very clandestine and involves multiple organisational layers. The agent knows only his immediate superior and immediate subordinate and no-one else. The Russians have been masters of such operations, masters of disguise, deception, disinformation and subterfuge. Purporitng to aid the Ukrainian freedom upsurge was an excellent ruse to conceal the true aims being pursued.

So once again, many congrats! Initially it didn't make any sense that someone who hates and discredits Poland, Poles, Polish heritage, etc. at every turn and always supports the antii-Polish side of any row should force himself to live here. Now it all makes sense.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

slandering this organisation

You may not be as bright as HB (that's why he's your guru, not vice-versa) but tell us why would Russian interests bankroll a Polish foundation? Pure Russian altruism, munificence and sincere desire to ensure true freedom and democracy in a hostile NATO state?
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

this time will be answering

Why is it that thePO scmastersand elarier govenremtns never brought the red scum to justice? Are Poles dumber than Israelis? They nabbed Eichmann in Argentina. Why were no Polish commandos sent to Sweden to nab that scumbag Michnik?Yuur hero Col. Mazguła claims martial law ensured security to Poles.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / The real Poland honoured Uprising at patriotic sing-song [34]

brave heroes from ZOMO protecting women and children from Solidarnosc bandits

You've only just got back form this time a more extended clandesitne foray out Belarus way and already have diarrhoea of the mouth. Try Stoperan! BTW $, £, PLN or RUB?
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / Is pro-opposition Open Dialogue Foundation a cover for Russian interests [99]

The Open Dialogue Foundation, which had called for the overthrow of Poland's government and announced 16 steps on how to achieve it, appears to be a cover for Russian oligarchs linked to that country's defence industry and secret services. The Tusk-era authorities issued a licence to the foundation to deal in armaments. Why an organisation ostensibly devoted to democracy and human rights needs to have access to firearms? -- is a key question. Among the bankrollers is a naval armaments firm in Russian-annexed Crimea and a St Petersburg-based producer of atomic submarines. The foundations appears to be a pawn receiving Russian funds in exchange for a foothold in Poland to Russians interests,Schetyna, who eagerly was photorgaphed with the foundation's leader Kramek, has now been caught with his trousers down, humming and hawing to worm his way out of the the ***'s latest scandal.
Polonius3   
2 Aug 2017
News / The real Poland honoured Uprising at patriotic sing-song [34]

only real Poles i

Real Poles do not snitch on their own country to foreigners in a bid to reseize power nor do they rejoice when their country is being harassed, blackmailed and threatened with sanctions by sundry lefty loons of the Timmermans or Juncker variety or turncoats such as Tusk. Polish patriots do not resort to ulica, zagranica i Targowica! Full stop!
Polonius3   
1 Aug 2017
News / The real Poland honoured Uprising at patriotic sing-song [34]

why is there an SB snitch

Why are there 30 ex-PZPR and TWs amongst the Platform's MPs? Don't ask me, I didn't appoint htem! Other ex-commies involved with the "total opposition" include Balcerowicz, who destroyed Poland's industrial assets, and Rzepliński violating the constitution by enaging in politics.
Polonius3   
1 Aug 2017
News / The real Poland honoured Uprising at patriotic sing-song [34]

may be staunch PO supporters

Highly unlikely. That would be like supporting the Nazi fifth column. True Poles regard those snitching on their own country and calling for sanctions as renegades and traitors whose hand no decent person should shake. And rightly so!
Polonius3   
1 Aug 2017
News / The real Poland honoured Uprising at patriotic sing-song [34]

"true Poles"

No, true Poles would oppose the appearance of the traitor-snticher contingent whose appearance owuld be the disruptive element. Luckly they knew what reception they could expect and wisely stayed away.
Polonius3   
1 Aug 2017
News / The real Poland honoured Uprising at patriotic sing-song [34]

Untold thousands jammed Piłsudski Square htis evening for the annual patritic song fest organised by Lech Kaczyński's Warsaw Uprising Museum. Pride welled up in the breasts of the thousands of true Poles gathered there as the words of both powerful patriotic hymns as well as a few more lighthearted uprising songs ascenbded heavenward. Singing his heart out was President Duda who was loudly applauded, But such characters as Schetyna, Budka, Petru, Kijowski, Rzepliński, Gersdorf, Gronkowiec et al were conspicuously absent, and it'a s good thing too. The booing, jeers and whistling their appearance would have undoubtedly triggered would have disrupted this solemn, uplifting event! In the reał, patriotic Poland there is no place for "ulica, zagranica i.....Targowica!
Polonius3   
30 Jul 2017
News / Was Kaczyński behind the presidential veto? [65]

they want the kind of power

One thing you and most others have failed to notice is that the legislation was not created only for when PiS remain in power.
But Duda did the right thing. As a doctor of law he found many legsilative flaws even beyond the actual merits of the case. I believe he will change the laws to give more say to parliament (less to the prosecutor general). For instance, the Sejm will proposes candidates with 3/5 support and the president will accept or reject the candidatures.
Polonius3   
30 Jul 2017
News / Was Kaczyński behind the presidential veto? [65]

embarrassing to be caught so easily

I must admit PiS are too straight forward and sincere and lack PO's PR savvy, propaganda prowess and fake-news finesse. They tried to enter a field where only the glib, slippery and web-minded post-commie clique excel.
Polonius3   
29 Jul 2017
News / Was Kaczyński behind the presidential veto? [65]

political correctnes

Political correctness was invented by Mao Tse-tung (now they spell it Dze-dong or something). There was only one verison of the turth -- Mao's current version (becuase it changed accorifng to need). Now they call it a narration largely based on liberel-leftist fake news.