UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]

Well that just proves that you are a regresive old fascist and a bit of a d!ck frankly doesnt it.
Your rating of a country as absurd comes from the fact it has a history of liberal attitudes to immigrants and refugees,wow.
Wasnt there a country in Europe that welcomed in a huge number of immigrants who didnt speak the language,didnt share the religion and had no historical ties to their new country,was that country also absurd?

For your benefit alone as Im sure anyone else reading this will see it,the country Im talking about is Poland,are you saying Poland is an absurd country because of its tolerence to immigrants?


Countries dont *die* they evolve, my country,my nation has been evolving and adapting and absorbing peoples and ideas from around the world since the dawn of recorded time,Im hardly going to p!ss my knickers with fear because a million or so Poles have arrived,what a strange idea of patriotism you have mate.

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]

Huh? /\
What now,eh?
So, the world sems split between those who hate us because of our past as imperialist nobs and those who hate us because we are no longer imperialist nobs.....oy vey, starting to have some fellow feeling with the Jews here :)

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


Not sure, the Poles Ive worked with didnt have a problem with English but you may be right in some cases with some of the newer people here. Why would they need to learn English when they can shop,work and pray in Polish and get almost anything official translated into Polish for them free of charge?

I do get that,but, I cant stand the English that move to Spain and never learn Spanish so Im not going to give a free pass to Poles ,sorry :)


Could you please attempt to speak English? Im afraid I dont speak west cost slacker anymore :)


and I dont have a degree,BS or otherwise.... :) I think Cali is mixing me up with someone else :)

ps, Alex,really,10 in a room?? Oh dear,not that old chestnut again......maybe a few student types tried to do that when they first arrived,when I was 18 I squatted with 12 in one small flat for a summer.......its hardly a *Polish* trait to try and save some money is it.....

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


Lols, an *unwinnable* arguement really. I say I dont hang out with Poles socialy over here and its easy enough to say they wouldnt want to hang out with me anyway....fair enough,lets just take that as read for arguments sake.....but.

You really must come here to see what I and some others are saying. I wouldnt dream of making comments on todays Polish sociaty in Poland re immigration or day to day life as I haven't been in Poland in 5 years,so why do Poles who have never been to Britain seem to think they know more about what is happening here than someone who lives here?

I also saw the new wave through the eyes of a pre 04 Polish immigrant and it was they not I who first *complained* about Polish shops springing up everywhere ( 12 on one small street alone in Doncaster) ,I didnt have an issue as I was happy to get all those things I missed from visits to Poland (and knock off LMs half the price ) but my Polish friend was the one who could see how things was developed and they were not wrong.

In 04 in Doncaster there were many clubs and groups set up by *old Polonia* and locals to welcome and aid Poles in their moves to this,a new country for them.

These were soon given up as beyond a joke as it soon became clear that most of the new wave were simply not interested in intergrating or socialising outside their own small groups. They even seemed to sub divide themselves as I witnessed in an old job of mine,those from Katowice not mixing with those from Wroclaw,thats probably eased off now granted but the Ghetto mentality has definatly stayed.

Instead of coming here and carving out an identity that works alongside the locals most seem to have decided to follow the example of the more radical Muslims amongst us and shut themselves off as much from wider sociaty as possible.

For 50 odd years we had White eagle clubs etc,but their members didnt go there every single night to the exclusion of other activities and they were also very welcoming to anyone Pole or non Pole it didnt matter. These days you will find * Polish nights* in night clubs where if you aint Polish you aint getting in.....imagine the reaction if Nightclubs had an open policy of keeping Poles out? AFAIK there is not one example of that.

News / Repost: Heya ad about communism in Poland [36]

Erm, Paulina, just because I commented that the (sorry I missed out the bit of it being the cartoon version) looked more like Molotov than Lenin you presume I dont understand why Lenin would cause offence???

FYI, Molotov carved up Poland along with Von Ribbentropp, surprised you have never heard of him as he was directly responsible for Polands fate in 1939 where as Lenin happened to be head honcho when Poland and Soviet Russia were entangled in a sideshow part of the Russian civil war....that Poland won BTW :)

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


That is sort of the point. I know a lots of Poles,all but one live in Poland,the ones over here just dont bother trying to intergrate at all.


Exactly,WTF has that got to do with Poles coming to Britain to find jobs and how does it justify the action of some idiotic Poles as he seems to claim?

But, of course, you have never been here so you know far more about these things than I do....thats modern Polish *logic* isn't it? The * I dont like what they are saying so despite not having any first hand experience I will just say they are wrong..." Ah well,par for the course here,being told by Yanks and stay at home Poles whats what in my own town.....

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


Erm,again....*face lower rations*...no sh!t sherlock, people in Canada didnt face the same rations as people in Britain,its as simple as that,but,if you want to play the victim card,fair enough,but being whinging cry babies was not something Poles of the wartime generation were known for so why are you acting like one on their behalf?

Can you give ANY links to back up your wild claims?


You find the truth funny? Really?


If you actually came here you would see that what alex says is true unfortunatly.
The Poles who have been here for 70 or a 100 years are intergrated fine but still proud of their Polish heritage,most of the new immigrants live in self created ghettos and make no effort to intergrate into the wider sociaty as they dont see Britain as a new home but a stepping point to somehow someday going back to Poland as rich people,coz,yeah,Britains streets are paved with Gold,right?

But,again, your argument seems to be that,because a few Britons used to act like idiots when they lived abroad then Poles should do the same.....what a childish attitude to life you have. Following your *logic* we British should start burning down synagogues and Pogroming the Jews in leeds and North London......

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


Bless,completly untrue,but nice try though.
Poles who went to Canada went there by choice, tens of thousands more chose to stay in the UK and faced no more *hardship* here than anyone else living in a country that still had full wartime rationing untill the mid 1950s.

( South Africa and Australia and Canada were not still *technically British* as you put it. Australia had been a republic for 45 years,about the same for South Africa...but never mind,some people dont let facts get in the way of propaganda do they...)


Are you saying Poles are so child like they need someone else to set them an example of civilised behaviour, ? You really are not Polish at all are you?

How much effort do you put into all this beiganski?
Considering most of what you post is ill informed and easily refuted one does have to wonder at your motivations.
Why do you care so much? Do you live here? Have you ever even been here?
All relevant questions as to your motives,come on fella, cards on the table, why the chip on the shoulder and why all the lies and half truths to make what ever your point is?

News / Repost: Heya ad about communism in Poland [36]

The dude looked more like Molotov than Lenin anyway.....

UK, Ireland / Living with Poles in London [16]


Nah mate, you are just a pillock,i doubt even the nazis would want you....

Life / Poles love of knights and battle. [10]


Why do you have pride in something that an occupying army built?
Are you "Proud" of Auschwitz?
I *Like* and admire hadrians wall but I derive no silly sense of nationl pride from a wall built by a bunch of Romans 17 hundred years ago.....

Stop being silly Monia, just leave us boys to compare portcullis sizes and go and bake some nice cakes or something ;)


Not the ones that still stand today TBH,but you have a good point for a small handfull, but, the Normans became *us*,became as English as anyone else, I doubt even monia will say the Germans became Poles...

Both Poles and Britons are proud of the amazing variety of styles of building we are lucky to have within the present day borders of our respective countries.....

Shall we leave it at that ? :)

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]


Lols :)
Good one.....no, Suburbs of Warsaw a few years ago,in local shops or the bank etc..... behind the scenes at certain museums,involved with local events , weddings ,that sort of thing.

And always either alone or in the company of Poles. I doubt when Ive been in a group of Brits (ie,my students a few years ago) anyone stopped and wondered why a Pole was with a group of Brits,like I say,again and again,its all in the context :)

Anyhoo, these last posts are waaaaaay off Topic,well played Zeti.....
Could throw in the fact I was in Warsaw that last time to visit with a former AK/Warsaw Uprising Nurse .....may keep it slightly On Topic despite us wanting to find non war connected Polish Women from history :)

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]


Stop stalking me then,people will begin to talk......


Oh,for gods sake woman, you can split hairs to the atomic level cant you?
Does this ever actually work for you in your life or is it just going to be one long arguement with everyone around you for 70 odd years?


Hey, if you dont like it so much just report the posts to a Mod.....its pretty clear to all that in this thread you were determined to spark some sort of arguement with me when all I was doing was having a discusion with another member.........your high hand style of acting like the classroom monitor is pretty out dated,doesnt it belong more in pre 1989 Poland?


Im sorry, you,like ironside have a fantastic command of written English but an absolutly dreadfull grasp on actually understanding the subtilties of the English language as it is used by native speakers. The ball is in your court as you are the only one getting confused. As I said,its the same on the other thread,other Poles get it,you just dont.


See other thread,as I say,in context, I am mistaken for someone with Polish background in places and situations in Poland where people do not expect a Briton to be......

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]


The topic is women in HISTORY....honest,thats not hard to grasp as a History topic is it?


Who said it wasnt?
Paranod Pole stereotype alert....what is it with some of you,seriously,its like a genuine psychological condition with so many of you. Reading insults into everything.......


Oh do shut up love,its an open forum.
You pop up out of nowhere and butt into a conversation I was having with Roz, a poster who I have *known* on here for years and one who knows to take my more inflammetory posts with a whole bag of salt .....you on the other hand just seem to have taken offence that I was one of those who showed you are bonkers if you think British people cannot spot Poles at 20 paces here in the UK,get over it ,you lot spot *tourists * in Poland easily enough,thats why I keep having to shove little Polish Chavs hands away from my pockets and bags on your countries transport systems.

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]


Anyone but zetigrek, I dont want her opinion ;)

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]


So what? Who are you anyway? You are the female version of Pawian IMHO, come here thinking you are the only one with an opinion and the arbiter of everyone else on here,news flash,want to be a power tripper become a MOD,untill then,STFU.

Its not your thread,you have nothing to say on who can or cannot have an opinion,especially when you dont seem to add anything yourself being a self confessed poor student of history with little interest in the subject.


Didnt think so but had to check after Suwka posted her comment .
Pretty sure its that footage of the pre war exercises that I posted the still from.
But......I have it on good authority (ie, a curator of the Polish Army Museum in Warsaw) that the cavalry did indeed now and again use horses against tanks,just not in the old fashioned,cinematic style of a head on charge but during Night Raids,and bundles of Grenades were used,not Lances.

But,seeing as there were no women in the cavalry ........
next topic lol......just really trying hard to think of historical Polish women (not Mrs Currie) NOT involved in some war or other and Im really trying to get away from war war war all the time :)

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]

What was,my comment on women in history or the amazingly clean pavements in Spies of Warsaw ? ;)

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]


Gaze in wonder at dog sh!t free streets and walls free of Graffitti ,great job location scouts/set hands :)

The first part was on last night on the BBC :)

Back to topic, no need to invent female historically important people,just do a bit of research,trouble is,they tend not to have been involved in nice,TV documentry friendly activities like war and destruction so no chance for archive footage of tanks and guns n stuff.....


Actually,it seems most of the muppets call you *easter europeans*.... ;)

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]

You had moving pictures in your school books? Wow, you did go to a Posh school didnt you? We shared books between 3 or 4 lol

BTW,that picture comes from film footage.
I still say ,for bored 14/15 year olds it does sum up Polands chances against the (at the time,obviously) modern German forces and the Blitzkrieg.

Why should British kids spend more time on the subject when the Blitz and Battle of Britain (not fekking Bitwa England as you guys call it...grrrrr) gets covered in maybe one 1 hour lesson?

What you younger Poles need to realise is that before 2004 the perception of Poles,especially the war time generations was very very high in Britain,everyone had a good story about some Poles they knew or had served with,half our war films had brave Poles in them etc.

Things have only changed once todays moaning ,whining, self sorrying (is that a word lol) generation has turned up claiming all sorts of rubbish.
( Yes,our British youth are just as pathetic compared to our own war time generation too though...)

ps, Did you watch Spies of Warsaw last night? Cant wait for the moaning and ******** to start on here once it gets shown in Poland......:)

History / Should we glorify Polish secondary female characters from history? [36]


Lols, you tell the OP off for using *wimmin* as its outdated 1970s rhetoric then you come out with that nonsense ...... I suppose next you will be saying that Woman comes from Woo a Man......:)

The simple fact is,99% of the world gets written out of History,its only ever the movers and shakers who get remembered and frankly for hundreds of years thats been men.


Dont get that topic going,again, FFS, EVERYONE who cares knows that its partly propaganda...........But, I know the photo Roz means,and its not a cut and paste job at all, its that famous one of the regiment of lancers on white horse wearing French helmets in a pre war army exercise.......its in all the school books. And does Im afraid sum up the fact that the Polish Army of 1939 was well behind the german Army (they are illustrated by lots of Panzers or Stukas).

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UK, Ireland / Polish city that's moved to Britain [120]

No,true, they are Scousers,natives of Liverpool,also another distinct *race* (actually ,species...)in England....... :)

UK, Ireland / Polish city that's moved to Britain [120]


Nope, those critters are irish , nowt to do with us :)

UK, Ireland / Polish city that's moved to Britain [120]


+1 lol....I wondered what his point was then...
Do Poles not in the Uk think its only well dressed amature Ambassadors for Polska who are here?
Seriously, the orange faces and high pitched screaching between every single word said to their six foot shaved headed half track suit half unknown warsaw pact cammo outfit wearing boyfriends is a bit of a give away to anyone here in the UK ,not to mention all the PL plated cars on the roads,or rather half on roads half on pavements or wherever they damn well decidfe to stop their BMW to pop into one of two dozen Skleps on that street..... :)

History / Poznan Castle did Hitler stay there? [12]


Grow up you silly little boy. Its funny you still dont see how dumb you were do you? Nevermind,if you had brains you'd be a danger .....

History / Poznan Castle did Hitler stay there? [12]


He doesnt seem the sharpest pencil in the case,Id walk away whistling old boy,leave him to bark to his self :)
Is it another of ironsides IDs? The irational jumping on a mis interpretation on his part which leads to him accussing you of all sorts of things you clearly never said?

History / Poznan Castle did Hitler stay there? [12]

lol, trying a web search with Hitler in it,good luck....
Ok,he certainly didnt make a famous visit there,so.....following the link for the local Gaulieter on the wiki page you used (?) it looks like the *only* senior nazis he hosted were Bormann,Goebbels and Himmler in 43.

News / Today's release of UK govt papers under the 30 year rule - JPII and the US look bad [18]


Its the one thing that bugs me about Jonny Foreigner in general,they all seem so bl**dy up their own bums and take themselves far too seriously :)

Its the fact that Americans feel the need to have those " Roasts" as though taking the p!ss out of someone is some special event and not just standard behavior that points this up :)


You pose a question to a statement I never made,is that moral?
Of course not,why do so many people have such a problem switching off the Nationalist button in their brains. Its quite easy to disagree with things carried out by a government that was in power when you were an 8 year old....

One can hold two seemingly oppossing positions if one is open minded enough and wasnt brainwashed from childhood by one particular cult ,dogma,race,tribe or other.


Exactly,Ive always said its a good job I have no power or influence :)

History / 'Prehistory' Celts in Southern Poland [20]


Cool,now this stuff fascinates me and I can believe it. Its when peole just come out with stuff like " Ive got Celtic DNA" I just think,yeah,whatever you say.........er,pass the beer :)

Its fascinating if you can get that deep,I keep promising myself I'll do the test some day but my Y chromosones will probably be a bit boring as they are irish, its the X one Im looking for to have some continental connections ,lets hope a great great great great etc Granny shacked up with an exotic Roman Legionaire from somewhere on the fringes of Empire :)

( The local *legions* here were the Crispus son of Constantines Panonian Cavalry.....)

News / Today's release of UK govt papers under the 30 year rule - JPII and the US look bad [18]


Far from it, you called a polymath, multi lingual near genius an "Idiot", Im thinking you haven't got to *I* in the Polish/English dictionary yet ? :)

FYI, it was not Henry who saw off the Armada it was one of his Daughters,Good Queen Bess, Liz the First, the protestant one who did that,well, with some help from the wind and the finest Navy in the world who actually knew how to use the cannons on their ships unlike the papal crusades lot of incompitant mumpties. :)


Yeah,I never get this whole absence of RC/ presumed *hate* for RC in England, we crack jokes but no more than about the French or the Germans or each other, half my mates went to RC Highschools and one of my Uncles was a Dominican Brother then Priest. Maybe in Liverpool there is a bit of tension still,but thats always been like Glasgow for having imported Northern Ireland to the mainland.

News / Today's release of UK govt papers under the 30 year rule - JPII and the US look bad [18]


Exactly. Uncle Sam came through for us in its own quiet way. As a few have pointed out this was at the height of the whole *Red menace* rubbish in Latin America so while what the US ( condoned by JP )was shockingly wrong,immoral and plain criminal it worked out OK for us in the end.

The real villains of that debacle were the French,still trying to sell more Exxocets to the Argies even after the invasion.....and we now share aircraft carriers with those duplicitous bast*rds!

( Mind you,Oran....)


yes...lol...*idiot*...telll me, since Britan gained its freedom from Rome did it do poorly or rise to rule most of the world?
Lets compare that to the servile states tied to Rome, Oh yeah,still clawing their way out of the dark ages and the poorest in Europe.

Bless you though,showing such concern for our souls,its really rather christian of you..... :)