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Ironside   
17 Aug 2009
Polonia / Poland and France cultures are similar [112]

The

Don't feed a troll !
nomi should be ignored.....or you have a chance to meet him personally, tell him :
youtube.com/watch?v=H_TPZ4299-g
Ironside   
12 Aug 2009
Polonia / Poland and France cultures are similar [112]

The treat is not about historical similarities or politics it is about cultural similarity.
Poles with education and culture before the war were using French at home as they second language - for example.
Algeria? We could try given a change in layout of the continent !
Ironside   
12 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]

No by trans locating its army into Poland and establishing what now is eastern Polish border, it took them six years to establish western Polish border.

Didn't you know about it?
Ironside   
12 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]

The first country that helped Poland was Soviet Russia of course!
Don't you know ? 17th September.
About heroic Soviet tank commander :
youtube.com/watch?v=da1e9Sz8I8k
Ironside   
7 Aug 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

All

Answer to your post You can find in the random thread #390

it should not make any difference whether its a Pole or and Englishman trying to enter the US, it is their decision and they should be able to decide whatever they like.

You are right it shouldn't but it does make a difference :)
That the reason of my questioning visa policy of USA toward Poland!
I have no hidden agenda and I'm able to distinguish between government& people, I'm old enough to know that every country have its idiots, bastards and thugs as well as wise, great and wonderful people.

Unfortunately some Americans (!) are not able to view with suspicion federal government and scrutinize all its action & be very distrustful as to hidden motives and agendas.

Its really sad as foundation of American Constitution and what more Founding Fathers assumed that such scrutiny and distrust toward federal government will be constants among American Citizens.

Its seem that it is not true anymore as example of scrappy( sorry old man) has showed blind and limitless faith in USA federal government.

hang on just one second, Poland is not fighting in Americas wars, it is fighting in the worlds wars. There are more nations involved than just the states, anyway UK soldiers are being killed int he same war but were not knocking on the door of the states asking for re-funds are we!!!

UK has its own reasons and not that ancient tradition in meddling in the Worlds affairs:)
Poland only reason for military involvement is to help OUR Friend - as laughable it may sounds......

By the way I find on this forum plenty posts or threads not only criticizing Poland and Poles but also insulting them and slandering.
So, I don't understand your complains (other thread), do you have a lot of British/English forum where you can go on criticizing UK ?
Ironside   
5 Aug 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

now

I was only trying to tell you not to be upset by some remarks on the Internet and I said about naivety in political context.

As for you telling me something before I don't recall any kind of conversation with you before.
As for being smart** you don't know anything about me and let it stay that way as for other matters you have nothing original to say (except personal insults) and you are boring

Actually I was being nice to you - are you yanks always react in that way to somebody acting friendly - not wonder you have so many friends :0

Listen all this anti-US just because a few Polaks get refused a VISA!!!!! Really is that what this is all about, were not school children in here, we are adults i hope???

Well, don't get it out of proportion, ani-US sentiments are most likely greater in France or Germany or even UK.
Its not about visas its about respect, Polish soldiers are being killed in American wars, we pay the cost we cannot afford really and they cannot sort out fuckin visas !!!!

These few illegal foocers who gonna stay wont make any difference for USA......

The US or any other country for that fact has a right to decide who and who does not have permission to enter their country. Surely that is one of the fundamental rights of a nation, to be able to select who and who does not come into the country. Sometimes i think the world is becoming to obsessed with this 'freedom to move' than is healthy.

Torny its not about UK for goodness sake !
Sure any country have a right to decide its beside the point!

The US is such an easy target for criticism because its usually the first nation to stand up and say 'i'm not taking this, i'm going to do something about it' The uS is criticised for everything from its foreign policy to its domestic laws. The US is a leading world power if not the, leading world power, everybody loves to get in line to have a shot.

You got it all wrong ! I will start the thread about it but much later, good nite1
Ironside   
5 Aug 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

We're blind because our goverment won't let you in whenever you want, let you stay however long you want? Let you skip whatever rules that apply to everyone else?

No you are blind because you support everything what US Government does and you believe everything US government says - its not exclusively about visas.

What rules? Rules keep changing .....

Being born? It's probably a teenager by now. We're hated no matter we do. It's funny to most of us now. It doesn't really matter.

Are you on medication scrappy? Because I have never said about hate ! Right now is disappointment- got it?
You see enemies everywhere ? you losing it man!

BTW: The evil old US Goverment is a key reason communism is not around anymore in Poland.

oh pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

Seriously, how old are you? You are very simple minded.

I think the same about you......seriously:)
I'm old enough to hold university degree and work for living so I don't have time to write essays about my views on certain subjects.

What about you ? are you in some nursing home for crazy vets ?
I'm asking questions for a reason but I will not take an opinion for definite answer.
Ironside   
5 Aug 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

It's not very smart to make statements like that without knowing a person, don't you think?

Oh I should add - you are naive when it comes to politics :)
I have no doubt that in others matters you are far from naive :)

When I said think I didn't mean to insult you :-)

When I said [quote1]I love you ! You are so naive and full of trust:)[/quote]
I didn't mean to insult you either!

One more advice for you ironside, don't play a game that you can't win.

I surrender! - not!
What game are we playing?:)

this is what you want to believe. Imagination is all you got :-)

What do you have in mind ?:)

well, that's your opinion and I bet many people don't share it with you.

I tell you in secrecy that I don't believe in democracy and I don't care:)
Ironside   
5 Aug 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

I didn't know anything about it. I judge him by his expressions. He get's what he deserves.

Well, nobody get's what one deserves:)
Don't be upset by someones remark on the Internet!

guess

Thank you for your guess but its only .....guess.

I don't think Poles are discriminated any more than other nations

Thats your opinion , everyone can form his own opinion on the subject:)

So drop in visas refusal in Warsaw and stricter law in USA (from 10% to 3%) is pure and simple coincidence?

Could someone explain above?Its a fact not guess or opinion:)

you're right about that. This is not about sentiment or discrimination, it's about immigration policy based on bad statistics that Poles have overstaying visa.

I love you ! You are so naive and full of trust:)

You are a goddamn idiot. How many times does it have to be explained to you? Poland as a nation has not been following policy. Why is there no said "sentiment" against the Slovaks and Czechs? You think the US government actually prefers them to Poland???

Watch your temper, and stop calling names!!.I'm not talking about sentiments but about effects of policy of the USA government.
Policy FEDERAL government of USA is pursuing in regard to Poland is starting to have a very real effect - anti-American sentiment is being born.

Thats not opinion or guess that the sad fact.
Its amazing, I mean your blind trust in your federal government - Sorry but I find it really hilarious!

But that isn't the place where the terrorists enter the country :D

Do you know exact spot? :)
Ironside   
4 Aug 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

and then some Poles call us arrogant when we have to face your stupid comments and reply to it the way you don't like it, f*ck u ignorant!!!

Darling he is rejected lover:)
He was so deeply and blindly enamored with USA that when he discovered that those feelings are not mutual he turned to despair:)
Don't judge him too harshly !

I know it hurts you to admit your people are seen as commonly illegal immigrants. Try not taking it so personally.

Ah! So it is policy based on bias and prejudice.......!
You are contradicting yourself sweet pie!

By the way you haven't answered my direct question.

My point is:
USA have at the moment about 20 millions illegal immigrants from Latin America and Asia and Africa, so why bother about 2 , 3 or 5 millions potential immigrants from Poland?

Its my estimation of potential number of people from Poland who would given right circumstances try they luck in USA. You should remember that is worst case scenario and numbers are set at maximum.

Current policy of USA government seems to be set at build up anti-American sentiment in Poland - which almost not existed there before!
If Americans will blindly comply and defend their government every action they should not be surprised by consequences.
And should not blame others like you do j23:)
Ironside   
3 Aug 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

chuckle

Sonny chuckle, choke or whatever your pleasure ...
Who is angry?Not me ....sorry to disappoint you babe :)
MUST?
NO! BUT it is possible!
Are you saying it is not ?:)

It can't possibly be due to anything Poles have done like say....oh maybe...overstaying visas in large numbers? Nope that can't be it.

Well, tell me who is not overstaying they visas?Japanese - maybe !

So drop in visas refusal in Warsaw and stricter law in USA (from 10% to 3%) is pure and simple coincidence?

Be bold , don't beat about the bushes, according to you it is coincidence ?!
Ironside   
30 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

I don't approve of it if the girl was treated this way but they're extremely serious when then they say they will go after illegals here. (Especially after 9/11)

They have a 7 or 11 illegal Mexicans, wonder what they are doing about them?
Easier to pick on some girly to pretend that they are doing the job?

It should be noted that the US has the largest Polish diaspora in the world, and a great deal of the people there are proud of their Polish heritage. Any "discrimination" is largely imaginary, and the State Department's rules are not there to specifically restrict Poles.

So drop in visas refusal in Warsaw and stricter law in USA (from 10% to 3%) is pure and simple coincidence?
Ironside   
21 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

And it was a political decision :) back to square one?

Its funny as I have been succumbed to participate in that pointless discussion about visas.
I wanted only to express my disgust about the way the US official treated the Polish girl!
I also wanted ask scrappy about his opinion on the subject of the Polish girl but now I cannot as he is not talking to me because he is afraid:)

Ah! Also he is a man of integrity - maybe :)
I'm disappointed though that he is not that cartoon character from American Dad, dam !
Ironside   
20 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

Do you? You're just as arrogant as me

Well, but its only me, And it has nothing to do with my country or government :)

There is no genuine manifest hate for the Poles.

You still don't get it! Do you ?
We are discussing American government not American people for you there no difference ...happy days ...

You in particular think if somebody farts in a room it must have been soley intended for the Pole's nose. Ridiculous.

Oh ! I know how insignificant Poland is nowadays but I hope it will change:)
Well, if all people in the room fart in the face of a Pole its not ridiculous anymore.

You guys always say this stuff - Okay, you're better than us. Happy? Frankly, I don't really care. I don't get up everyday and beat my chest with some Tarzan yell because I'm American. I don't view it as an empire really. I'm not going to debate you anymore, Torq maybe, not you. You remind of a dog chasing its tail.

Really?, you are not that cartoon character from American Dad? :)
You will not debate me because you have not arguments apart from petty insults and generalizations.

That's a pretty stupid statement. There is no such "discrimination."

Well, I said in a way it is discrimination :)
Its explains - there are is every reason to treat Poland better then for example - Baltic states!

The people that do the interviews at the embassy at trained to judge and evaluate the interviewees.

What if people in the embassy are biased because in the past Poles indeed overstayed their visas?

[quote=polishmeknob][/quote]
However I thank You for your explanations I can recognize quality when I see one :)
Ironside   
20 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

Look, I'm for removing visa restrictions.

Listen, I'm not interested in removing visa restriction:)
For all I care USA government can keep those restrictions in place for ever.
All I want is for others to recognize that such restrictions are nothing more then political games and in a way it is discrimination of Poland.

Who cares? The US Gov't cares, for one. Certain benchmarks have to be met before the restrictions can be lifted.

Could you explain in plain English what is all about?
Because so far I understand that certain number of Polish citizens are refused visas to USA and based on the quota of those refusals US government is forming is visa policy?!

Its seems like a catch22 :)
Embassy in Warsaw should give more visas and problem is solved - question - why they refuse visas to so many people?
Ironside   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

Yes.. Thank God in Heaven. All us stupid bastards who've managed to create one of the most successful societies ever, not even 250 years old. We know why you hate us.. you'd hate us if there were no visa restrictions, it wouldn't matter.

Successful ? You mean powerful ...
Nihil novi sub sole :)
Its nothing new,every Empire on Earth as soon as become one, were looking for an explanation of the reason they become so successful.
No surprises there ...every one of them come to a conclusion that its so because there special (read better) !
Do you recognize yourself scrappy? ;) its amusing - I mean your believe that because you are an American you are better :)
And your indignation and anger when "lesser beings" don't see it your way.
Manifest Destiny, special place in the Gods plans its all come from puritans from New England - they had that thingy about being Chosen Children of God and about building New Israel in New land.

Its common dream to start afresh but its only a dream;)
Anyway treatment of the girl by USA officials it is something you should be ashamed of ...
What next they start shoot people for a traffic offenses ?

The US relaxed visa restrictions (i.e. got rid of them) from the Baltic States and Czech Republic but not Poland because Poland had a too-high rejection rate for visas. Once the rejection rate comes down, all the restrictions will be removed.

Who cares?
But its a bullish anyway and why people have to pay for a privilege of applying for visa - 100$ ?
Torq
Stop arguing in such a way you do with scrappelton it doesn't look good , sorry my opinion :)
Ironside   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

I have a Polish roots nobody has discriminated against me. My grandma was from Lodz and she did alright. You are so sensitive. The world is mean. Man up! You marched on the Czechs in 68'. How about we analyze that for a few. HYPOCRITE!

You are an American and don't call me stupid with your statement :) above it look ridiculous !

How come the Czechs don't have these visa restrictions? Answer me that. You are simply stupid Ironside that's all. No one is doing anything to you. This has been explained to you umpteen times by Krysia, Sledz... You're just too stupid to comprehend it.

You should address your question to the State Department not me....
And your explanation with all due respect is only wishful thinking .... how many British, Irish or others overstayed they visas ?
How many illegals immigrants from Latin America is currently in your country 7millions? 11?
How many would given a chance emigrate from Poland 1million ? 2? lets say 3 ...... you having Polish roots should prefer your own.....
Is that the greatest threat to USA immigration policy ?
Anyway I don't care one way or the other but don't you dare to tell me that USA is doing something for free.....or because is good.

Again, you don't want to be an ally of the States.. DONT DO IT. WHO GIVES A FLYING F.UCK?? You will criticize us whatever we do.

Are you retarded scrappy ?
I'm criticising USA government - are you USA government ? - or you blind and loyal to the last drop of blood?
Your government in the N trial punished such blind obedience .....
Anyway I'm not ruler of Poland and I can do nothing about policy of my country.
I'm only expressing my outrage at the manner the girl was mistreated by USA government ..its a shame
Ironside   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

Its pathetic, we shouldn't be there in the first place, wasting monies and soldiers life's for what?
Cold war and all that - you were playing the game of world domination, with or without Poland you would be have been doing the same.

See what I meant ?
You actually believe that all that were courtesy of the USA charity - silly man:)

Anyway its all beside the point.
USA ruling class choose to discriminate Poles because they can - fine with me!
Just don't you come here crying like a babe because somebody said something you don't like...
I see you agree with outrageous treatment of the Polish girl and also you don't contest that Poles are discriminated against in the visa program by USA government.

I call that progress in your biased attitude,:)
Ironside   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

Rumor has it you had 40 division at the time of Moltov-Ribbentrop.

Don;t you believe it for a moment Soviets at the time had a great weapons and lots of it!!!

Really was it half of Europe??

What are u about are u sane ?

You and shitbird seems to be cut out from the same cloth, over-sensitive about any remarks that criticize something about USA.
You seem to loose your sanity and intelligence and start rumbling and ranting about opponent country and people making generalizations you wouldn't stand for a second if directed against your country , do you hate Poland?

Point is that USA as a country is disliked because its foreign policy is directed only for benefit of USA and its ruling class, and being world first power is doing as it pleases.

There nothing wrong with it but at the same time European country's are being sucked to participate mostly in costs and explanation is > we are doing it also for you - people are fed up with that ********.

As for the subject of this thread.
Visas for Poles are a political decision and as such must have a political reason and I don't buy for a split of second that behind that policy stands any practical reasons.

Thats OK !
To be loyal and good ally of USA is simply not good business.
So yes Poles are being discriminate against but that is the right of every government to make such decisions.
Its a right of USA government to discriminate Poles.

But treatment of the Polish girl is absolutely out of order !
You should be ashamed by the barbaric action of your federal government and condemned it !
You scrappeltonseem to be brainwashedand unable to comprehend scale of unfairnessand injusticeswhich is being committed also in your name ,,,,
If you agree......
Ironside   
13 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Yeah...that's the reason I'm leaving PF.

Hey stay ......don't be a babe, you made some pretty provocative stuff and you shouldn't be surprised by the responses:)

You know...if you would had stayed partitioned Europe would had been much better off, no war, no Hitler!

Well, as a matter of fact it united German state started both world wars :)
Don't think you mistake cause and effect ?Aufwachen BB!!!

Poles hate it if foreigners tell them the truth and dare to destroy all their nice little stories they tell themselves to make themselves look so nice and shiny....

lets talk about those stories then BB bring it on .....
I think that Poles are the last prone to make those stories as every country have them .....and Germans only after last war stopped force feeding German people with rubbish stories made up by bureaucrats and university dreamers about greatness destiny and German race(utter rubbish) Blut und die Nation....

And now you have other fetish how you are good at economy, building things and how you are liberal and peaceful.
So, maybe BB every nation need some "stories" to feel good about common national psyche - to point out a finger at one is a very humane and a very wrong at the same time!

It make you BB either a simpleton, hypocrite or a lier about your true identity :)
You can choose which but don't please stay on PF your contribution is quite often the most entertaining :)
Ironside   
7 Jul 2009
History / The Celts in Poland. [71]

I doubt there will be something more than some ruins ....