Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


I ask you: Is the US debt going in trillions something not to be worried about?

The 200% means twice as money is borrowed by the Government that the country can produce. Soon, America will have to yield to China.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


Meaning 200% is the desired target for next 2 years?
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P.S. I have included a story of eye-witnessing vs. myths in my post above.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


That might be a point.
I'm not joking here. There is tremendous information chaos around and written information does not need necessarily be true. This is why I value eye-witnessing so much and laugh at "could you show me an article?"

BTW, it looks that wielki pan was not able to show his cards ;-)

An anecdote to relieve the atmosphere:
On my first vacation trip to UK, we were telling different people we wanted to go see Liverpool. Virtually any English people around London were telling us: "DO NOT GO TO BIRKENHEAD! Only slums, thieves and bandits there!" Therefore, I had to go see Birkenhead. (By the way, the Mersey Tunnels are a masterpiece of engineering). While driving through Birkenhead, my wife could not help making the following comments:

-- See that bandit with attache case and wearing suit?
-- Oh, how sweet those bandit children playing football!
-- Have you seen those slums? I'd like to live in such slums!
;-)))

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]

Are you doing anything to help them, Gumishu?

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]

It would be only honest if you introduced yourself first.

But I have no secrets. I am a Pole living in Poland. I am a consultant in technical software industry, I own a house and 2800 sq.m. of a forest lot. And you?

Language / Need advice on how to improve Polish language skills [134]


So true. I can remember my first English lessons. The teacher told us to pronounce the English first names of schoolmates. My "t's" in Betty were wrong, I could not pronounce "Margaret" properly, and my "Joan" sucked ;-) The teacher did not go any further until the whole class could decently pronounce the sounds. The matter of "th" in different words was the next step.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


English is my third language.

And stay on topic, please. It seems your arguments are exhausted and you start using argumentum ad persona.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]

Thanks a lot, warsz! The leasing business has worked that way for a long time here, true. The point with leasing is you have to pay over defined term to the leasing company, then you can "buy" the car from them, right?

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


People don't get rich by taking out a loan. People can get rich by taking out the loan, investing the money and growing money. Spending the loan money for consumerism makes you a beggar if you are not capable to pay the debt off. Assume you've taken a loan, bought a house for that, then there's a stock market panic and the bank tells you return the loan. You get evicted. Such things hardly happen in Poland.


The hamburger bit was a slight suggestion you could learn English somewhat better.


Mostly debit cards. Another proof how little you know about Poland.


Really embarrassing. Use a spell-checker.

Love / In Polish relationships who is the boss? [46]

If we treat this thread any seriously, it is the woman, of course.
The funny bit is the divorce. Everybody sympathizes with the woman and the man gets all blames.

The above is a description, not an opinion.

Love / Woman 23, man 47 years old. What do you think about ? [162]

Happens, too.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]

Another comment proving how little you know about Poland.
Poles were lured by banks in late 1990's. Suddenly, the crisis of year 2000 occurred and Poles got the bitter lesson that the money don't grow on trees. Since those times, Poles are far more careful with taking credits.

Someone put forward a proposition above that the majority of Warsaw SUVs are bought on credit. Isn't it contradictory with your statement


?
Besides, if you are so stupid to indebt yourself, wielki pan, don't tell me you're rich.


I has a hamburger.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]

Some disputants -- instead of discussing "who is poor in Poland" -- were trying to picture Poland as generally a poor country. Some others were trying to say the majority of the Poles were poor people.

To support such views, some realistic economical indicators are needed. Otherwise we are talking about some subjective matters: You, about the landscape guy who drives a $60K car and I about my neighbour the baker who has now ordered covering his whole lot with roll-grass.

Now, speaking of objective indicators and answering this view...


One of such objective indicators could be national gross debt as percentage of Gross Domestic Product. The 2011 forecast for US is 100%, meaning the US live totally on debt. The same forecast for Poland, Czech Republic and Hungary is 29%. Portugal is 97%, Greece is 130%, interestingly Italy is 130% and to give you a good insight, Netherlands and Austria are little above 80%.

Meaning, your (ItsAllAboutMe, wielki pan) "wealth" is a soap bubble, and the indicator also tells us Poland does not live on credit. The nature of a soap bubble is that the cards can be checked easily. This is why the last crisis hardly hit Poland but it hit some of the countries mentioned above.

Now, indicators reading how much people spend on this or that become less important in the light of the fact countries live on credit. Yes, we had one Edward Gierek who made Commie Poland live on credit. Later it meant really hard time for Poland, such as food rationing (Ironside, how old were you at that time?)

Now, wealth distribution. Can anyone present good figures or charts?

Language / How to understand and remember the Polish nominative plural form? [9]


Like in dziecko/dzieci?

History / What was it like in 1989+ in Poland when the Soviet house of cards fell? [237]

Boże drogi...

There is no hope for you, man. Go find nine grams of lead or take a bed-sheet, a spade and walk towards next cemetery. Why should you suffer for your whole life.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


Yeah, and it was 4.50 once. Who's ignorant, baby?

History of PLN/USD

History of NOK/USD, same period. Norway is the most developed world's country. USA are only 9th.

What can you tell by observing these two graphs, wielki pan?


You mean, average students/workers driving SUVs? Who buys inexpensive cars, then?


I have been to both US and UK, not once. Are you trying to tell me anything has missed me?


Study the graphs above. PLN has been on parity with Norwegian Krone all the time, and Norway as I said is 8 positions up over the US ;) Who says the US dollar is strong?


What economic indicator is then essential to you?

History / What was it like in 1989+ in Poland when the Soviet house of cards fell? [237]

Iron, first of all it seems to me you grew-up after the fall of communism.
Secondly, your constant worries about the shape of our Ojczyzna indicate you are unhappy and cannot find your place or way in the reality of life. I might recommend to you more enjoying life.

Thirdly, you seem to miss a strong foothold to simply see the progress of Poland since 1989.
Next, your belief in conspiracy theories leads to nowhere. Instead of bettering your life, you constantly look for the guilty of your misfortune (I guess you are a fortunate person, you only envy the more fortunate) and are in search of magical recipe to make you wealthy and successful man. the world does not work that way, sorry.

Anyway, I cannot help you. It is the responsibility of an individual to make own personal success or fail. Complaining or looking for the guilty won't help you, man.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


PARDON ME? Have you come here from Outer Space or what? The US dollar is very low against PLN in Poland, again.


Where in the world are the expensive new cars owned by average students/workers? Are you mad?!

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


Poles don't complain. Polacks do.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


This is because docs want to drive SUVs (like vets do), and a single job only secures a normal BMW.


No way! ;-) The guy on the vid had a "76 Deluxe", WOW. Still, very similar guitars. Mine has the expensive pearl fretboard markers, hmmm, why is his model "Deluxe"?

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


Interesting combination. I always though Polacks could only live abroad but could be wrong, ofc.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


I would never bet my Japanese '79 Pearl Custom Export on anything! ;-) Talking on Polish "poverty" of course, and staying on topic.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


Our vet drives a SUV. Ah, vets are private animal doctors, I've almost forgotten ;-)


That would be my family.


I reckon you're an American?

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


Nay, warsz, I prefer books by Terry Pratchett and Neal Stephenson ;-)

Seriously, I know what you are aiming at, and I think it is another conspiracy theory believer.
Do you know that bit on Winnetou (an American Indian, a hero of Karl May novels)?

In Soviet Union, a schoolboy is being asked by a teacher who was the greatest benefactor of the mankind and promises top mark for the right answer. The boy answers: "It was Lenin!" and he gets the top grade. Sitting down, he mumbles to himself: "Sorry, Winnetou, but business is business" :-)

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


Business is business, Winnetou ;-)))))


America makes her own business, too. I do not think America is Santa Claus ;-)

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


And there are no petrol stations closer to the border in The Eastern Wall, interesting ;-)

A friend reported why a specific brand/model of a car (I don't remember exactly) was so popular there but the reason was it had a 100 litre diesel tank ;-)

Travel / Things to see along eastern Poland by bicycle [42]

Bearnyboo, I've been travelling to Sweden on business, consulting, to train Swedish engineers and to sell technical software to them since 1995. I have been also spending some holidays in Sweden. So you do not need to tell me that your country is wonderful and people are great, because both are true. I especially value the Swedish openness and ability to honestly raise difficult questions. I'd be glad if you respected same features in your Polish correspondents.

Said the above, let me tell you this:
The Swedish safety obsession is something you may certainly not notice but I do:

1.The meetings and workshops I was leading were always preceded by safety instructions by the meeting host, as if it was an airplane
2. Any flammable liquids such as "white spirit", oil, solvents, are stored in protective anti-explosive cabinet at petrol stations

I could say more and I can tell you: If this is not an obsession, I don't know what obsession is. Taking all of this into account: Poland is not a biker-safe country and you have been warned.

Thank you for your attention.

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]


This is what you Believe.

Love / Do Polish men like to sleep with other men? [79]

I have a compromising picture of me sleeping with the current admin of a Forum I established ;-)

Life / Who is poor in Poland? [720]

Strange thing, today I was waiting for my wife with cat in front of our vet's house (the vet had a SUV). I started counting cars passing by, and it is a minor street. Within 30 minutes not less than 12 SUVs passed by, around 30 brand new Toyota, Volkswagen, Honda, Renault, Mercedes, Audi, BMW etc and only 2 older cars. There were 3 (say: three) pedestrians and 1 (say: one) cyclist over that time. I wonder how about this poverty and how much money is circulating in the "grey zone".