History / How do Poles feel about what the French did during the first few stages of WWII? [30]


Well, if you had suffered immensely as the result of one extreme ideology, it's somewhat understandable that you would adopt another extreme ideology to make sure that the original one that made you suffer never comes back.


In this case, it's fair enough.

The only people I don't have time for are the ones who betrayed others freely. It was one thing to denounce others after being pushed to breaking point, but those who willingly threw themselves into betraying others should have been shot as traitors.

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]

Oh please Ironside, you weren't in Poland, you had no idea how PiS went about their business. You weren't the one sitting and watching as they put the old TKM philosophy into practice, nor were you the one who saw the top job going to some inexperienced moron from Gdansk.

The best example - who did Kaczynski appoint as head of the CBA? Hmm....

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]

What makes me laugh is that you keep accusing PO of doing exactly what PiS did.

News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]


For all of us. They're somewhat at the mercy of the Polish government - and the Polish government has shown that they will keep them on a much shorter leash than elsewhere.


Not really.

Worth pointing out that the best shopping centre in Poland is squarely in Polish hands.

History / How do Poles feel about what the French did during the first few stages of WWII? [30]


Absolutely, won't catch me arguing with that statement. I think it's worth pointing out that at least for some of those people, it was a perfectly acceptable reaction to what had happened before. I was reading some account somewhere of some Polish guy explaining that he bought into the system because he didn't want a return to the days of the mid 30's - and he blamed the politics of hate for Poland's destruction afterwards. Fair enough, and not for me to criticise.

News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]


Makes no difference. In fact, they're at the mercy of the Polish government, given the currency in use.


What difference does it make?

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]


Actually, from what we can see last time, Palikot actually gained votes that didn't exist before the election.

Anyway, taking votes away from those two is meaningless - Palikot will never, ever, ever support PiS. And it means your boys will stay in opposition forever!

As for you legend, remind us, where do you live?

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


I imagine Gazeta Wyborcza are laughing their heads off at such people - such free publicity!

And let's be honest, if those fools hate it, then it must be good.


Usual rhetoric from followers of the Dear Leader - anyone that isn't with them is somehow 'misguided', 'stupid' and so on.

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But Polonius, why are you so against the left when they provided you with employment for many years?

I think comparing your posts with Lenka tells us all we need to know about your newfound ideology.

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


It's Greggy's worst nightmare, he spent so long trying to convince us all that the Dear Leader would win...only to stare yet another loss in the face.

History / How do Poles feel about what the French did during the first few stages of WWII? [30]


Unfortunately, it must be borne in mind that the Poles did the dirty work.

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]

Polonius, can we safely assume that you have an obsession with homosexuals?

USA, Canada / Piwniczanka related water in the U.S. ? [5]


And then fill our bottles with tap water all the same.


You do realise that it's probably just tap water you're drinking?

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]


No, Polonius. We simply don't take websites seriously that rant about Zionists.


I'd love to see you attempt to reference that website in any serious discussion.


It is a known fact? Could you perhaps tell us who knows such facts?

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]

I've seen many crap sources in my time, but...has anyone actually looked at this website? :D

rense.com

And what a surprise - Polonius quotes from a typical loony "We see Zionists everywhere" website.

History / How do Poles feel about what the French did during the first few stages of WWII? [30]


Because he was warned to stop with personally abusing posters and then carried on doing so?

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


In other words, the statistics clearly show that PiS are headed straight for another defeat.

Shall we predict Greggy's excuses now?

Life / Inquiry about prescribed medicines in Poland - Xanax, benzodiazepines [30]

You're not moving willingly here and you have some issues with mental health? This really doesn't sound like a good idea.


Let's just say that "lock them up and throw away the key" is still the mantra here.

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


It won't work. Any young talent (for example, Ziobro) would know that without Kaczynski being permanently expelled from the party, he would still exert huge influence over the party and thus their policies. Such a position (President for life, how North Korean) would all but guarantee that the party wouldn't be trusted by that cruical centre ground.


I've been saying it for years that without the radical Catholic agenda and Kaczynski, PiS have a decent chance of winning an election. But Kaczynski has to go for real, not like in 2005 when he pretended to step aside.

Life / Inquiry about prescribed medicines in Poland - Xanax, benzodiazepines [30]

And what will you do if you require medical intervention in Poland?

It seems bizarre that you would willingly move to a country with rather poor provision for mentally ill people. You do realise that Poland is not a great place to be if you require treatment, right?

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


I'd argue that the 45% that you reference would include the votes from the PSL.

PiS are in even more danger than before - if they lose even 3% of the vote to this Ruch Narodowy, then these end up as "wasted" votes and PiS have even more of a struggle.

If the Dear Leader could let his ego drop for a second, he would give way to a younger man without an ego problem.

History / How do Poles feel about what the French did during the first few stages of WWII? [30]


Which all leads nicely on to PiS in the modern day using exactly the same tactics.

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


Winning an election means getting your chosen man as Prime Minister. Getting the most seats doesn't count, as the I Sejm showed.


Which results in a loss for PiS due to their inability to build one at any level.


What's amusing is that you were calling repeatedly that PO and Tusk will fall, yet they're still here.


I think we all know how politics works in Poland. And that same mechanism means that if any other party supports PiS in an election, they will be punished by their own voters.


They won't risk offending their middle class electorate. Better to return Tusk as PM and support him on a confidence/supply basis only.


Not impossible? Well, apart from the fact that half of the party would quit rather than have anything to do with the SLD. Not to mention that the SLD aren't going to risk upsetting their core support with such a coalition.


No, we really haven't.


You've been saying that for years. What's really important is that PO isn't "clearly going down" at all - in fact, he is making sure that you and your type never, ever get near power again. It works for me.


You mean a handful of people who are allied to Gowin? Not exactly to be taken seriously.


There isn't anywhere near as much space as you think there is. The liberal members of PO can go to the SLD/RP, the Conservative members will stay within PO because they know they will get "punished" by a PiS government and so on.

Fortunately, people like you remind PO voters why they have to vote. Keep going.

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


It certainly has merit, because the vast majority of ordinary Catholics want nothing to do with those pseudo-Catholic nutters with their politics of hate. Quite a few Catholics I know vote for PO because they don't want anything to do with the language and politics of hatred.


Which is exactly what I've been saying. He is totally, completely unable to sacrifice himself for the sake of the party.


Like I said, the Marshal election was won by PiS, but the Sejmik is still controlled by PO/PSL/SLD. They didn't build a coalition, they simply relied on the fact that the one independent and two other votes from whoever it was decided to vote for their man instead.


I don't know many people in Poland who have unquestionable obedience towards the authorities.


Who defines what "anti-Catholic" is?


In other words, anyone who disagrees with them will be "dealt with".

Frightening.

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


What does that matter? I know you're absolutely salivating at the thought of PiS winning in the polls, but...it means nothing.


Which they're not going to get. Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that any combination of PO/PSL/SLD/RP can simply agree on a supply/confidence deal to keep PiS out of Government.

PiS supporters really seem to struggle with how electoral mathematics work in Poland.

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]


Where did you read such research, and in which countries was it carried out?

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Like Saint Robert Bellarmine, who condemned people to be burnt at the stake?

Is that a shining example to you, Polonius?

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]


Who in Ruch Palikota has a criminal record?

News / Poland's Nationalists hold congress [132]


Since when? The last news I had was that they had only managed to get their man as the Marshal, but that the Sejmik was still controlled by a PO-PSL-SLD coalition. Therefore, they're still in opposition there. Which is amusing, given that they're the biggest party by far there.


Why are you trying to deny what everyone else accepts? Are you really trying to suggest that there is no fringe Rydzyk supporting faction within PiS and Polish politics that can be relied on for 5-10% of the national vote?


The man has lost 14 elections and has lost at least 6 elections since 2007 (if not more, I lost track) - and you still think he's capable of winning?

I'm not sure if it's your long years outside Poland, but virtually anyone with half a brain can see that Kaczynski can't lead PiS to victory.


Says you, who resides outside Poland and who doesn't have to witness the trouble that such things cause. Strange that you'd support something that has direct parallels to Germany 1933, though.


And who defines "Stalinist" and "Soviets"?

Fortunately, Hoffman, mouthpiece of PiS, has made it clear that he regards them as a danger. He doesn't say anything without the approval of his boss, so therefore it can be safely assumed that PiS will push them to the sidelines.

News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]


What makes it really amusing is that 'legend' has been offered the opportunity several times to come and "save Poland" or whatever it is he thinks should be done. He keeps refusing. Dunno why.


And this "Ruch Narodowy" are law abiding citizens?