Ironside
14 Jul 2010
Ironside
14 Jul 2010
Life / Why are the Italians and Polski so much alike? [90]
**** its confirmation what I was saying all along that our traitors and corrupt politician are making from Poland banana-republic.
don't get excited is no good for your complexion
Poland is the Mexico of Europe,
**** its confirmation what I was saying all along that our traitors and corrupt politician are making from Poland banana-republic.
How's that for a stereotype?
don't get excited is no good for your complexion
Ironside
14 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
man, of course it was as he was killing-murdering civilians ....hence the mass-murder and genocide expressions....
yes it does, language is a tool to communicate and to ensure proper understanding you need to use right tool to do the job properly.
You can use for everything a hammer but more often than not it will be a poor workmanship.
The same with words, you keep scream murder every-time and soon its meaning will become meaningless, so what will you achieve apart from emotional release?
From the moral point of view I do agree with you. However legislation has it differently as killing during a war is regulated by law of war where your civilian application do not apply - generally soldiers are supposed to kill!
So Hitler's genocide wasn't an organized mass-murder?
man, of course it was as he was killing-murdering civilians ....hence the mass-murder and genocide expressions....
Does it change anything?
yes it does, language is a tool to communicate and to ensure proper understanding you need to use right tool to do the job properly.
You can use for everything a hammer but more often than not it will be a poor workmanship.
The same with words, you keep scream murder every-time and soon its meaning will become meaningless, so what will you achieve apart from emotional release?
the nature of declared war is just that, killing with mens rea and premeditated thoughts.
From the moral point of view I do agree with you. However legislation has it differently as killing during a war is regulated by law of war where your civilian application do not apply - generally soldiers are supposed to kill!
Ironside
13 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
its about definition and right word to describe an act. its not about emotion but about using the right expressions.
If you would said that killing human being regardless of circumstances except in defence of your live or the live of your family,is not right - I would agree.
However jumping on the tree doesn't make a monkey out of human - analogously your claims and emotion doesn't make it true .
Murder is murder, nothing less and nothing more ergo war cannot be murder although can encompass a many murders ....
you wish ....
So you can do the math, and then have the nerves to tell anyone that war isn't murder.
its about definition and right word to describe an act. its not about emotion but about using the right expressions.
If you would said that killing human being regardless of circumstances except in defence of your live or the live of your family,is not right - I would agree.
However jumping on the tree doesn't make a monkey out of human - analogously your claims and emotion doesn't make it true .
Murder is murder, nothing less and nothing more ergo war cannot be murder although can encompass a many murders ....
whiping my butt with such euphemisms.
you wish ....
Ironside
13 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
nope as war is one of the exclusions and is govern by different rules - Law of war !
good :)
War is murder as there is malice aforethought and the requisite mens rea to kill. It isn't caused by reckless endangerment like is the case with manslaughter/homicide.
nope as war is one of the exclusions and is govern by different rules - Law of war !
Yeah, I got the gist of it.
good :)
Ironside
13 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
no, murder is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent
Its legal as well as cultural term (criterion) to distinguish between certain acts of human beings. If someone killed in self defence you wouldn't called murder for number of reasons - for one - legislative.
The same goes for a war, to kill enemy soldiers is OK, but to kill civilians is not.
You well-meaning humanitarian attitude would only confuse the issue and at the end of the day would not help to protect non-combatants.
and here goes definition -
Killing of enemy combatants by lawful combatants in accordance with lawful orders in war, although illicit killings within a war may constitute murder or homicidal war crimes
I-S (OK?)
actually war is killing people and killing people is murder,
no, murder is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent
Its legal as well as cultural term (criterion) to distinguish between certain acts of human beings. If someone killed in self defence you wouldn't called murder for number of reasons - for one - legislative.
The same goes for a war, to kill enemy soldiers is OK, but to kill civilians is not.
You well-meaning humanitarian attitude would only confuse the issue and at the end of the day would not help to protect non-combatants.
and here goes definition -
Killing of enemy combatants by lawful combatants in accordance with lawful orders in war, although illicit killings within a war may constitute murder or homicidal war crimes
I-S (OK?)
Ironside
13 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
because is not ......
murder is something different - why you PC fellows are bent on changing the meaning of words, do you naively hope you will change the world ?
What's depressing is the fact that I spent quite a lot of time yesterday trying to make people on PF admit that war = murder,
because is not ......
murder is something different - why you PC fellows are bent on changing the meaning of words, do you naively hope you will change the world ?
Ironside
13 Jul 2010
Ironside
12 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
I have no way of knowing it....
well I wont bother if you don't understand you wouldn't understood either ...
that ********, murder is when you kill civilians, unarmed civilians, killing combatants is a way to do it, specially ones like Luftwaffe pilots, who were waging war against civilians population in Poland and in England (by the way in England they were provoked into such action by British government).
Have I ever said dresden was a good thing? Nope,in fact even on this board I have stated that IMHO Dresden was a war crime and Harris should have been jailed.
I have no way of knowing it....
But,btw,dresden 1945...Battle of Britain 1940,so your point please?(actually,dont bother.)
well I wont bother if you don't understand you wouldn't understood either ...
Shooting dangling germans(maybe,who could tell at 300+ mph,could have been other allied pilots for all the bloodthursty barstewerds knew) who would have landed in England was just murder full stop.
that ********, murder is when you kill civilians, unarmed civilians, killing combatants is a way to do it, specially ones like Luftwaffe pilots, who were waging war against civilians population in Poland and in England (by the way in England they were provoked into such action by British government).
Ironside
11 Jul 2010
Ironside
11 Jul 2010
Life / "Oh the Strawberry, Raspberry, Good wine that I drink......" Polka song request - need a good recording [11]
doubt it
Has anyone ever tried promoting it?
doubt it
Ironside
11 Jul 2010
News / New cross war in Warsaw [530]
in the exact spot?
what do you want to tell us?
What do you think ?
Maybe position between two parties are really inconsolable?!
No doubt there will be more than one.
in the exact spot?
what do you want to tell us?
Maybe pettiness is an immanent Polish trait?!
What do you think ?
Maybe position between two parties are really inconsolable?!
Ironside
11 Jul 2010
USA, Canada / What do Polish people think about Canadians? [44]
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C_TfBbR6L0M
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C_TfBbR6L0M
Ironside
10 Jul 2010
History / Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible? [198]
you don't know much do you?
Lwow was an island city of Poles surrounded
you don't know much do you?
Ironside
10 Jul 2010
History / Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible? [198]
don't mess with me M-G
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b3hMVSflMRA
I-S (M-G rumblings closed)
No.
don't mess with me M-G
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b3hMVSflMRA
I-S (M-G rumblings closed)
Ironside
9 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
You have knee-jerk reactions. I mentioned Dresden for a reason.
It was merely a comparison
You have knee-jerk reactions. I mentioned Dresden for a reason.
Ironside
9 Jul 2010
Ironside
9 Jul 2010
History / Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible? [198]
really? who told you that?
Germany definitely fared worst out of the post war redrawn map of Europe
really? who told you that?
Ironside
9 Jul 2010
History / The Untold Battle of Britain [205]
killing German pilots who were targeting civilian population and who started practice of shooting defenceless pilots during Polish campaign, bloody shame!
Does Dresden rings any bells?hypocrite...
Ipso facto their were defending Britain regardless of their motivation, its amazing as Britain proclaimed war in defence of Poland but actually didn't defend her, eh!
We are talking older man here, who's land become part of Soviet Union.
Shooting men dangling in parachutes who would land in almost instant captivity,really bloody brave and honourable(shame its so true.)
killing German pilots who were targeting civilian population and who started practice of shooting defenceless pilots during Polish campaign, bloody shame!
Does Dresden rings any bells?hypocrite...
Nope,even the Polish pilots in the programe admitted they were only there to fight germans,nothing to do with defending Britain,
Ipso facto their were defending Britain regardless of their motivation, its amazing as Britain proclaimed war in defence of Poland but actually didn't defend her, eh!
Name the one (single one) British-born General-Major,in his 50s bearer of the Order of the Lion and CBE who was forced after the war to work as a day labourer in the factory
We are talking older man here, who's land become part of Soviet Union.
Ironside
6 Jul 2010
Real Estate / Relocating in Poland - what's the best area? [56]
:D
What social life? Poznan is dead during the summer...
:D
Ironside
5 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]
what opinion to form an opinion you would need a brain, you have view instead
having a different opinion
what opinion to form an opinion you would need a brain, you have view instead
Ironside
5 Jul 2010
Genealogy / Komorowski clan-name Korczak [16]
he is impostor
Bronisław Komroowski, is from the noble Korczak line.
he is impostor
Ironside
5 Jul 2010
News / Will Komorowski be Poland's worst ever president? [72]
who is gonna judge it? and by what standards ?
who is gonna judge it? and by what standards ?
Ironside
5 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]
as I said Komorowski won - that all what is need to be said
Will Komorowski
as I said Komorowski won - that all what is need to be said
Ironside
5 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]
Nevertheless you will get one even if I have to force it down your throat, every-time you come out with ******** you will get what what you deserve ...
that the fine political reason - twit
Who you are, its remain to be seen.
You really believe that profit motivated company;s will stop doing businesses in Poland because some obscure Duck would be president?
Either they are not motived by profit and have other agendas or their profit is not that kosher if they are afraid of lame duck.
It begs investigation :)
why don't you kiss his butt?Sebastian ?
In theory, nowadays it means gay marriages and all this PC sick propaganda plus government and European donations for minority groups. It means that any half witted facrd can get money for claiming to be a pervert for example animal lover:)
PO doesn't give a shite about all this, they are just egger to get ant support they can to stick to the tit - and suck nation dry!
I'm not asking for your opinion Ironside.
Nevertheless you will get one even if I have to force it down your throat, every-time you come out with ******** you will get what what you deserve ...
If you wanna live with a Noob as your president be my guest.
that the fine political reason - twit
Because these countries are the ones that do business in Poland and provide wealth for Poles.
Who you are, its remain to be seen.
You really believe that profit motivated company;s will stop doing businesses in Poland because some obscure Duck would be president?
Either they are not motived by profit and have other agendas or their profit is not that kosher if they are afraid of lame duck.
It begs investigation :)
thank you delphiandomine
why don't you kiss his butt?Sebastian ?
Conception of the liberal state means that the government interventions
In theory, nowadays it means gay marriages and all this PC sick propaganda plus government and European donations for minority groups. It means that any half witted facrd can get money for claiming to be a pervert for example animal lover:)
PO doesn't give a shite about all this, they are just egger to get ant support they can to stick to the tit - and suck nation dry!
Ironside
5 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]
well, move out and don't come back - do you really are that stupid to think that anybody actually care?
that one?:)
youtube.com/watch?v=kIpteSqdOVI
f the clone duck win i'm moving out of this place!!!!
If JK will win the
If JK will win the
well, move out and don't come back - do you really are that stupid to think that anybody actually care?
but it ain't over till the fat lady sings :-)
that one?:)
youtube.com/watch?v=kIpteSqdOVI
Ironside
5 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]
Komorowski won? yes Komorowski won - well said
Komorowski won? yes Komorowski won - well said
Ironside
4 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]
Because my Spartan expression were moved to random. I want to express(second time) my disappointment of the choice people made - well morons are easy to manipulate.
Because my Spartan expression were moved to random. I want to express(second time) my disappointment of the choice people made - well morons are easy to manipulate.
Ironside
4 Jul 2010
Real Estate / Relocating in Poland - what's the best area? [56]
what are you saying ?
Summer on the countryside. :)
what are you saying ?
Ironside
3 Jul 2010