News / "Poland is flourishing" [62]


Talk about Economic Illiteracy!! You win first prize.

Genealogy / Do you think all Slavs are white? [178]


Could have been a Pole of Armenian origin.


Either that or their relatives could have had some Armenian ancestry.

Study / AFRICAN STUDENTS INVASION in Krakow [197]


Well again you make some good observations, but I have to disagree with you on one point. I have lived in South Africa and they use affirmative action in the workplace and in education institutions. Normally affirmative action is used in support of the minority and not the other way around, this has caused many skilled white South Africans to abandon the country and emigrate elsewhere.

History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]

I am 100% in agreement with your sentiments; there is a lot in the history of the two nations that should link them together. In regards to what you describe serf/bondman syndrome I think that there would a degree of residue left over from the previous two centuries that colours the perceptions of Poles in their view of the Russians and Germans.

UK, Ireland / Immgration to UK. A success? [114]


It is because you are deliberately peddling an untruth whilst being fully aware that the natives are 4 times more likely to commit a crime in the UK then the Poles. Who it appears are model citizens from who the natives have a lot to learn.

Anybody can play the same sort of xenophobic headline grabbing game you are engaged in try some of these:

"Another Polish immigrant in England - a 42 years old woman - was found dead in England in Thetford"

"The recent case was a Polish women, age 36, beheaded in Scotland ..."

"Polish woman murdered, police release video still: Swinton ... Detectives investigating the alleged murder of a polish woman in Swinton have ..."

Polish migrants flee violent Britain
Gun crime and racist attacks are driving many to return early to eastern Europe

guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/oct/07/immigration.immigrationandpublicservices

"Hundreds of Polish migrants have decided to leave Britain, blaming high crime levels and racism for their premature return to eastern Europe. As Scotland Yard detectives last night continued to investigate the shooting of Magda Pniewska, 26, from Brzeg, southern Poland, representatives of Britain's 600,000-strong Polish community cited Britain's inner-city violence for encouraging people to leave."

I am sure that racists like you have contributed to this, by inciting you fellow natives on forums like these, I hope that you are proud of yourself.

Incidentally, do you go onto Pakistani, Indian and Afro-Caribbean forums as well?

UK, Ireland / Immgration to UK. A success? [114]


You are terribly stupid aren’t you, in addition to being racist, which in my experience the two usually go together? When they commit a crime in the UK they get deported and serve a jail term or whatever in their country of origin.

UK, Ireland / Immgration to UK. A success? [114]


Have you got information to the contrary, or are you calling all Polish people liars. Why else would you play the man and not the ball, or perhaps you think that all Poles should take it meakley and not defend themselves?

UK, Ireland / Immgration to UK. A success? [114]


You are a racist don't feign to deny it. Has it ever crossed your thick scull that some of these people might have not had a criminal record before entering the country? Besides exporting criminals is a British invention is it not?

UK, Ireland / Immgration to UK. A success? [114]


With a sentence like that, it is quite obvious that you are a racist and anti Polish, I pity the Poles that have to come into contact with you. And all the other more crminally inclined natives.


That is becuse your less then intelligent mind buys into some of the rascist trash that is prodcuced by some of the media in the UK, and your racist inclinations tend to agree with them.

UK, Ireland / Immgration to UK. A success? [114]


The evidence shows otherwise, like I said the statisitcs show that Poles are 4 times more law abiding then you or your realtives are. In fact they demonstrate that you and your relatives are more likely to commit a crime against the Poles then the other way around.

UK, Ireland / Immgration to UK. A success? [114]

What type of immigaration? if you are specifically adressing Polish immigration and the following article is correct, then the overwhelming answer is YES:

Monday, 11 April 2011

"Poles in England & Wales 4 times more law abiding than average Brit?
Latest statistics published in the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail show that Poles living here are overwhelmingly law abiding in comparison to the average resident of England and Wales.

Latest estimates of the number of Poles in England and Wales by the Polish Consulate are around 700,000. In 2010 the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) recorded that 6777 convictions in England and Wales concerned Polish citizens. On the face of it this is still a high number, but in view of the total estimate of Poles in this country, it does show that less than 1% of Poles in this country have been convicted of committing a crime in England and Wales. Or, put another way, less than one Pole in every hundred has been convicted of a crime. Considering that most of the Poles here are young and live in a land with unfamiliar customs to which many have not yet fully adjusted, this is indeed a relatively low figure.

By comparison the Home Office Statistical Bulletin, published in January 2011, stated that the total number of recorded crimes in England and Wales between October 2009 and September 2010 stands at 4,223,362. This covers roughly the same time period as the above crime statistics for Poles. The last recorded population of England and Wales stands at 52,042,000 (2001 Census) though it is probably somewhat higher now. That is equivalent to more than 7 crimes having been recorded for every 100 residents of England and Wales, i.e. one crime for every 14 persons in the country. Obviously many of the above offences would have been carried out by repeat offenders, but it would not be unfair to estimate that some 4% of the indigenous population may have committed a crime.

These statistics also mean that less than 00.15% (less than one sixth of 1 per cent) of crimes in this country were committed by Polish citizens. Still high, but the statistics for law abiding Polish residents in the UK looks more positive by comparison with the entire population of England and Wales.

Obviously the ACPO is right to point out that crime committed by ethnic minorites, and in particular by minorities who have not lived in the UK for long and are not likely to speak English fluently, does cause a greater use of police resources than crimes committed by the indigenous population. It requires more complex work with the community in question and involves an increased use of interpreters. Obviously this is highly regrettable.

Many of us Poles do feel angry that even this small percentage of Polish citizens abuses English and Welsh hospitality by committing crimes in this country. We agree that recent job losses and the credit squeeze, which had hit Polish communities particularly strongly, are not an adequate excuse for committing such offences here. Nevertheless we feel it is unfair that British newspapers seem to be highlighting statistics in such a way that is likely to inflame resentment against law abiding Poles and other nationalities living, working and paying taxes in this country.

I believe that the Federation of Poles in Great Britain (for whom I used to be the press officer some years ago) should make these facts more widely available and challenge the presentation of these statistics by an alarmist British media."

In other words Poles in the UK are far more likely to be the vicitms of crime, then be the ones committing crime.

History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]


This is the type of attitude that Poles in Lithuania are subjected to, sadly by most Lithuanian politicians. This is the consequence of a policy which unfortunately during wartime and later rid the country of its intellectuals, and subjected the majority of the population to sovietisation and anti Polish propaganda. This has unfortunately impeded the Lithuanians and rendered them incapable independent thought.

UK, Ireland / Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state [129]


Well it makes sense, the fickle lazy and stupid don't generally vote conservative, they tend to vote Labour, BNP and sometimes Libdem, in short for parties who tell them that the reason why they are ugly, stupid, fat, and unlucky is because it is always somebody else's fault.

So Labour naturally want be the the one to tell them that the party is over, otherwise they would loose their support....

History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]


I agree, as a great poet one's s said.

Adam Ansnyk Daremne żale:

Daremne żale - próżny trud,
Bezsilne złorzeczenia!
Przeżytych kształtów żaden cud
Nie wróci do istnienia.

Świat wam nie odda, idąc wstecz,
Znikomych mar szeregu -
Nie zdoła ogień ani miecz
Powstrzymać myśli w biegu.

Trzeba z żywymi naprzód iść,
Po życie sięgać nowe...
A nie w uwiędłych laurów liść
Z uporem stroić głowę.

Wy nie cofniecie życia fal!
Nic skargi nie pomogą -
Bezsilne gniewy, próżny żal!
Świat pójdzie swoją drogą.

I meant once said, in regards to the above contribution.

And further about the past, provided of course that one learns from history and draws the right conclusions, there is no point in dwelling in the past.

History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]


I think that is quite an accurate summary.


Sounds like an intersting read.

Study / AFRICAN STUDENTS INVASION in Krakow [197]


Good on you fro seeing the obvious, unfortunately your observation is only shared by a very small minority.

Study / AFRICAN STUDENTS INVASION in Krakow [197]


Yes accept if you happen to be white and want to live in Africa, then you are treated as a second class citizen and in some cases you are seen a legitimate target for murder.


Yes they still sing sing that song. And they still steal their properties and farms, blatantly discriminate against them in the workplace and education institutions etc.

Accept in the world racism against whites is seen to be more legitimate.

News / The best Poland ever? [125]


Yes most certainly in terms of living standards and peace, they have never had it so good. And yet PIS acts like an opposition in exile, they are totally irresponsible and always spoiling for a fight. They will never get into government and that is good news for Poland.

History / Why did communism in Poland fail? [180]


All of the reasons you have mentioned, in addition to the fact that it was a foreign import and kept in it's place by the Soviet Union. I think that most Poles, as history demonstrates, like their independence and do not like to be constrained by central authority. And unlike their neighbors they tended to have had a healthy disrespect and suspicion of authority.

UK, Ireland / Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state [129]


Yes it has been in the news

This has been covered by the press, the below articles are reactions from the EU and and Polish ambassador.

dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/attitude_to_poles_borders_on_d.php
dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/eu_warns_the_netherlands_on_po.php

News / British man accused of molesting teenagers in Poland [74]


Grow up, it's a perfectly valid point that he is raising.

News / Polish people mocked and humiliated in Season 7 of House MD [60]


The female doctor, Cameron I think her name is, also happens to be Polish+employing Polish actors that's hardly humiliation.

News / Poland's Lost Generation [172]


Seems like an unusually high number, almost million sounds plausible, 2 million though how did they get that statistic?

Provided that the majority of them return with some valuable experience then things should work out for the better.

Genealogy / Genetic difference between Poles and selected others. [83]


Doesn't sound terribly scientific to me. One side of may family comes from the south east from the Podhale region they have light blonde hair and blue eyes. By contrast the other side comes from slask and have raven black hair and brown eyes.

To conduct these tests you have to have a large sample population, and by large i mean a population that runs into thousand and is spread across the country, and both genders have more or less equal representation.

And then this test has to be conducted more than once.

Travel / Snow in Zakopane in Summer? [13]


That is interesting I am going to be in Poland in June, and I've got family very close to Zakopane, they live in Cihe-I think that it is about 5km away.

Love / Torments me my boyfriend had a relationship with a pole-how do I get over this [28]


My heart beads for you, have you ever considered undergoing cosmetic surgery? You might be more competitive if you go through with it, depending on how much work they have to do.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]

When you say that it was Poland who broke the agreement for the first time you are only partially right, because the truth is that it was the local Poles who formed the majority of the local Population who started a local uprising against Czech rule-which they were perfectly entitled to do, since you can't force people to be part of a nation they do not want to be a part of. That is why Benes had to keep his original pledge and agree to a plebiscite.

As for the elections held in the area, just a technicality used by the Czechs as an excuse to get their hands on the coal reserves in the area, they would't have dared if Poland wasn't engaged in the east. Besides what kind of a stupid treaty is it, that disenfranchises people of their right to participate in the democratic process?

UK, Ireland / John Drennan: "Poles in fear of starved Irish influx" [15]


There was BBC article about starving horses in Ireland, however I think that the "starved Irish" influx that he is talking about probably relates to the Poles who might find themselves out of work and having to had back home.

BTW: How nice of the Irish Bishop to preside over the mass on the anniversary of the Smolensk accident.

Life / Is there something like a "Polish culture" or Polish national identity? [49]


No offence, but try reading that backwards and perhaps it will make more sense.

Travel / Irish Couple getting married in Zakopane. A nice hotel? [15]

5:19 is embarrassingly funny(:


Either that or you could get the locals to give you a lift in a snow sled or horse drawn carriage.