News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

I wonder what these Germany-haters would say when Germany goes all Nazi again and starts to treat the muslim immigrants like the Jews back then...

Would they applaud for Germany becoming Nazi again? Even as they usually use the Nazi past to beat us with it? Will their brains explode?

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Agreed....

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Schulz is SPD....and he lost the last race against Merkel, so he isn't even in question.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Which one? :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

The main vote winner party of the Bundestagswahl has the right to appoint the new chancellor, which is usually the party leader...so people know whom they would get before.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Since he is an active SPD member that is doubtful. It is generally doubtful that the SPD will provide a chancellor any time soon. They are sinking fast...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


We are going there...maybe soon with Merkel gone we are going there abit quicker...

But even then, the world wide image of a friendly Germany...so "un-Nazi"...will linger on and will help us getting lotsa points on the next popularity poll. Again, for a country depending on international trade that PR is priceless!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Germany is not the US! Germany usually get's invaded and occupied because of to much mowing down of unarmed civilians...

The US is it's own continent...we have a gazillion neighbours, we can't do the same politics as the US! It's called realpolitik.

No matter what some populists say...the images of Mutti Merkel and crowds of welcoming people embracing the hapless poor of this world was best PR for "Made in Germany".

How could you forget? Germany had it's "Make Germany Great Again" time already...and it developed into a nightmare for all involved.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


I believe you.

But when countries mow down women and children they are generally frowned upon and have to face consequences.

Not to mention that a world trader like Germany lives off his good image to sell his goods...mowing down helpless people is just bad for it.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

We gonna miss those times when Germany's worst political mistake would be letting refugees in...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Some are already missing her, even as she is not gone yet...

Poland: relief for constancy in the Chancellery

Poland, like France, recognized Merkel's decision and announced cooperation until the end of her mandate. Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland Jacek Czaputowicz He welcomed the announcement of Merkel on Monday in Warsaw, which would remain Chancellor in 2021, even after having renounced the presidency of the CDU. "The most important thing for us is the declaration that Merkel will remain Chancellor until the end of his term," said Czaputowicz.

Warsaw recognizes the "important role" of Merkel in the reform of the European Union, as well as its "important place in the history of the European Union in recent years", said the minister of the Polish right-wing government. On Friday, Merkel will travel with several Cabinet members for German-Polish intergovernmental consultations in the Polish capital.

The left liberal newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza writes: "The twilight of his political career is bad news for Poland." In Germany, no politically educated politicians have ruled in recent history. "

archynewsy.com/this-is-how-the-world-reacts-to-merkels-withdrawal

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


My bet is on Friedrich Merz...the german press just dubbed him the "Anti-Merkel".

A longstanding enemy of her's since she nearly destroyed him alot of years back...he is seen as a "real" conservative who could steer the CDU back to it's old roots with the chance to re-collect alot of miffed now-AfD voters.

At the beginning in December the party members will have to decide...between Merkel's crown princess AKK which would mean a "keep at it" or a course correction with Merz (there are alot of other candidates still too...but...well....)

PS: Right now it's about her CDU leadership only, not her being chancellor...but should Merz be elected as new CDU leader the experts don't expect she will stay there for much longer.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

She is "Mutti"...incredibly fine tuned to her electorate. After Fukushima the mood in the german populace was to nearly 100% against nuclear power (besides a few experts and the workers in these plants that is).

A mood the Green party of course mightily profited, after all they were the warner for decades now. So as it was Merkel's now famous/infamous MO she grabbed the initiative and stole the Greens the topic and made it her own. That guaranteed her again lotsa approval and votes and left her political opponents empty handed standing in the rain...again.

Again, 2015 was totally against her usual MO, the one and only time...and it broke her neck. (But it must be said that there was alot of support to let the people from the autobahns in at first...it was the never ending stream in consequence to that which proved to be so destructive)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

*nods*

Consensus and powerful federal states...makes decision-finding slow and cumbersome but guarantees stability! Nothing happens quick and overnight in Germany...

Well.. 2015 being the one big exception as Merkel used her "Kanzler Vorrecht", without asking the parliament or her neighbours. But then the refugees were already stranded on the Autobahns...not much time for long wired decision-finding.

Today the consensus in Germany is mainly that this was the only human decision...it was after all only about 3000 people, the big error was that she didn't communicate clearly that this was a one time decision only.

But millions in the third world did take that as invitation, and that's where the bruhaha started. In the end over 1 million people stormed Germany, totally overwhelming the country and the people.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


...do you have a link for me?


Thing is the only time she broke with this rule was 2015, and this was her downfall...


Agreed...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Inviting and coddling them compared to jailing and killing them.

I would say that is a mighty fine try for a rectification.

Germany can't do it right, can't it....killing minorities is frowned upon by the neighbours...coddling them too...*sighs dramatically and shakes head*

News / German legal discrimination against Polish speakers [209]


Heh:)

Maybe that's the reason they agreed to talk at least....


But it's a soft power...very soft...quite squishy....

News / German legal discrimination against Polish speakers [209]

I wonder, does Germany have to be the peace-broker?

I just don't think we are very good at it...there is pragmatic Merkel between two violent alpha males who measure their d*ick size on the scale of their armies.

And she has to counter that with what? Her brain? Her empathy for the killed people? Her wish to stop that bloodshed? What use is that? They don't care anyhow...

UK, Ireland / Polish Pilot killed in Leicester Football Club Helicopter Crash [6]

I would guess that someone would open a thread over at the RussianForums then...

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]

...such a tradition deserves to be uphold, a tough girl would be fine too...I think...

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


Wow! That is really cool....you need a son, pronto! ;)

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]

Is that a sword?

News / German legal discrimination against Polish speakers [209]

An ongoing marshall plan aka EU funds....

ec.europa.eu/energy/en/funding-and-contracts


I very much doubt any EU hater has an alternative to that ongoing financial help for developing new members. Even as they speak of their own, new possible unions (3 Seas or Visegrad or whatever) never is there a chapter about real help as such even mentioned.

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They had a dream...it was naive, yes but you can't really fault them for having such a dream of a peaceful, unified Europe after the catastrophe of WWII and the decades long split in two ideological hostile blocs with the main battle line across the continent.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


World wide it's about 11 million cars...including Australia, India, China, Argentine, Brazil...I doubt they left a continent off....okay...no data about Africa...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

I'm not sure that is a thing about Qualität...they lied and duped and deceived to avoid the clima laws! It was a conscious decision by the top managers, not an accidental mechanical flaw.

The german car industry has only one chance to rescue themselves in my opinion, they should work hard to define the new generation of new green tech automobiles. They need to become the leaders in that regard again, not holding onto the old smokers. Flying cars, self-driving cars, green energy cars...the whole program. They depended on the past successes and models for to long.

Maybe this current disaster was the awakening they needed....

News / German legal discrimination against Polish speakers [209]


Okay....then what about that?


telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/9840084/British-taxpayers-set-to-lose-100m-after-record-Poland-EU-funding-scandal.html

For you acceptable proof because for this fraud scandal to take place it needed EU road building funds in Poland in the first place?

European Commission officials have moved to immediately suspend additional Polish funding worth £3 billion for road infrastructure in order "to protect the EU budget and EU taxpayers from a case of suspected fraud".

...The scandal is a disaster for Poland, which was has received over £50 billion in EU regional funds over the last seven years while, until now, avoiding the whiff fraud and corruption that has often surrounded the spending of Brussels cash in southern Europe.

The investigation is now focused on three specific road and highway construction projects worth 900 million euros (£773m), a new funding scandal record for the EU.

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Yeah, they did...and boy came that back to bite them in the ass.

The Eurozone should never had put in politicians hands who believed Greece NEEDED to be part of it because of their historic importance as "birthplace" of Europe and such.

Economists would never allowed Greece in, they wouldn't had fallen for that book cooking...

The Eurozone still is sick because of that!

News / German legal discrimination against Polish speakers [209]


What about that?


ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/en/newsroom/news/2018/09/09-06-2018-road-infrastructure-in-poland-the-eu-invests-eur320-million

...Over €255 million from the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) is invested in the construction of a highway section between the cities of Nowe Marzy, Świecie and Bydgoszcz, in Centre-North Poland, along the S5 expressway.

Further €64.6 million from the Cohesion Fund go to the construction of an expressway section between the Zakręt and Lubelska junctions of the S17 express road from Warsaw to Garwolin....

Or that?


eib.org/en/infocentre/press/releases/all/2009/2009-127-eib-supports-with-eur-1-billion-a2-motorway-construction-in-poland.htm

...The European Investment Bank (EIB) lends EUR 1 billion to finance the extension of a 106 km section of the A2 motorway forming part of the priority Trans-European Transport Network connecting the Polish capital Warsaw with the German Capital Berlin....

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The Eurozone is half baked, true....but it's only a currency, a tool for the economy. It doesn't make or break an economy! You can't blame a currency for a failed state, nor is it the guarantee that an economy will be flourishing.

Countries like Greece had been basket cases before the Euro already.

The birth fault was IMHO that it was used by politicians to further their european project, disregarding hard economocial facts. Economists should have build the Eurozone instead. They let countries in which were just not compatible!

The Eurozone needs reforms, and this time by expert Economists not by politicians...and if that needs a downsizing then that's what it needs.