Travel / Poland - never again [593]


Pay attention boy. Read what I have written with understanding. I said I don't care who or what he is.
As to him being a troll, I do care enough to advice on the fact other people. Do you have a problem with that?
You seems to very defensive of whoever post here as Rich Mazur - a friend of yours?


sorry, I know Dirk you find a lot to be confusing. I don't see why I cannot respond to post addressed to me without you butting in.. I don't have to justify myself to you. Don't mistake my kindness with weakness. I respond to people because that is my want. If you don't like go back to collect empty beer cans, count passing trains or whatever you do...


Well, good on you. Go and convince does who give a damn. Obviously it is very important to you to be believed.

Travel / Poland - never again [593]


Another dumb argument Dirk? I wrote what I wrote to make it absolutely clear to the troll ....and to you that I don't give a ...sh what he says or who, what he is, I know he trolls and that all I need to know. Do you want to argue about that D..irk?

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Yet someone wrote that you're who you say you are just because he can find Rich Mazur (or several of them) with a quick goggle search. So wrong address ..buddy... dumb argument belongs to Dirk.


I don't care what and who you are....you're clearly here to troll and you enjoy yourself. You're too clever by half. In any case mods will let you do it as long you won't overstep some boundaries. It is all nothing to me. I have just given some advice to people who are responding emotionally to your bait.

They can listen to me or not. Do you have a problem with it? IF you do - tough sh.. I owe you absolutely nothing.


As I said I don't care if you lived in Poland or in Timbuktu or Kashmir. However a normal person with an average IQ would conclude that equally possible is that you have found those sentences somewhere or that you have actually asked someone Polish to write it for you.

So in fact it Doesn't prove anything. Alas, a normal person who lived in Poland would have had no problem with stringing few sentences in Polish just to shut those who do not believe him up.

I don't care, some people do and you too seemingly care IF they believe you on this. So, either you care about their opinion or not. IF you do I'm sure as a Pole you can write in Polish no problem. IF you don't care about their opinion - why all this song and dance?

AS I have said it is all nothing to me. Glad to clear all that misunderstanding between us - happy trolling.

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Communist? that is the way borders were perfected always until recently, nowadays few countries are somehow not allowed to do it.

Travel / Poland - never again [593]


What arguments? I have thought that it is an established fact he is a troll and he .... trolls.?
He is not Rich Mazur, it is his a nom de trolle as in a nom de guerre.
WHO and what he really is, doesn't really matters to me. The fact he came here to troll does, I'm not gonna take seriously anything that dude says.

I advice others to do the same.

Travel / Poland - never again [593]


About Poland? A Country you detest, don't care about, a country you are not emotionally attached to, a country that put you off so much so that you never again wish to visit it even!! hell, you made a dance and a song about it by starting a thread expressing your feelings on the subject on a certain internet forum.

So forgive me if I call you on this - and say BS!


Right, so you came over to an American forum to learn about Polish people talking to you in English. Hmm.. didn't you say you're a Pole yourself at the very least you have left Poland as an adult?

What possibly could you learn about Polish people on an American forum? Don't tell me you don't know how to write or read in Polish? I mean you can tell me whatever you want or nothing at all but as to your reason I don't buy it, not a reasonable person would, so it is a fail and BS.

Well, you have answered my questions very well. I have no more questions. All is crystal clear.

I'm feeling generous, so I'll answer YOUR question - you really don't want to know.

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I mean - OK. Poland never again. I couldn't care less. Now - how about PF? Why linger here like a heavy fart in a crowed place? What for?

Unless you enjoy trolling.

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I don't need best for a trolling pest like you. You should be faltered that anyone would waste their time on you. MR 'Brilliance shine from my anus'. I'm not impressed, none one is impressed.

By the way this is an American forum you jerk.


Delphin it wasn't you trolling or one of your mates? Are you sure?

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You're a real person no AI could fake an a-hole with the uncanny accuracy. Thing is most you talk about is a spin or baloney.

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His is a toll and troll's only agenda is to troll.

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Dude you could have used ATM, falling that you could call your hotel, they would arrange something for you.


Two days after arrival you had no local money?


Seems to me you were drunk and that would explain why you have acted like an idiot, had no local many and people weren't helpful. Nobody like to deal with an arrogant drunk idiot in any country.

UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]


I don't know what you mean by the far-right groups. In the same way I have no clue why you think that in Britain is relevant if some thugs attacking foreigners supposedly have political views. Most likely they are generally too stupid to have any coherent political views, those are just angry, frustrated losers for the most part if not right way with anti-social criminal background.


Well, their are focused on so called refugees, Muslim illegals forced on Poland by the EU. Small wonder, plus they want to gain publicity and more support to gain more voters. They're not exactly anti-immigration party. They have been in politics for years, on the margins but still.

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You're just full of ****. So deluded as to reality that is not even worthy try to talk with you.


Boo ho aren't you a little merry doomsayer. people who live off the eu will fall but not Poland.

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Don't need the EU for that.

@jon357 and you can say the same about Bristol, Hull,
Can I? lol


Good timing Crow.

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That is a question of a personal opinion or rather a personal perspective..


I met a charming (at the time) Norwegian gall. what about you? How did you end up in Guamanga?

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Indeed there is no acceptance in the Polish culture for an aggression and a crime. You agree, fine.


teen girls typically are trouble in a different way. So fail.

@theOther
However in his case all that PC, no-Marxist culture could be faulted in producing a dude who doesn't care about xenophobic, racist and fascist ideologies because he doesn't believe those are real ideologies and not a made up stuff by the left to smear with on their political opponents. That is your lefties fault and you will rip what you sow.


Sure but regardless of all wasn't that great and after all it has been only 70/80 years. In the term of a cultural evulsion only a moment.

You seemingly skipped that lesson. lol!

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No, I understood him all right. He doesn't know what he is talking about. It has all to do with a common sense. It used to be a main stream common sense. 40 years ago, nah 20 years ago the idea that some people would be illegally carted across the sea from all corner of the world and any European country would take them in no questions ask - just because, would be a stuff straight from a S-F books,. and laughed at. Now it is a reality.

That is a problem with young buckos they think that know it all. Take some time before they realize they do not know it all and it is a good idea to live a little and listen a little.

You seemingly skipped that lesson. lol!

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I don't know what you think. Never claimed otherwise. I read what you post and draw my own conclusions. Maybe those are not obvious to you because you never thought about it that way. Hey that is your problem.

'poor teenage boys'
right because boys are to be laughed and mocked and their problems are not to be taken seriously if that convo has been about poor teen girls problem and I would dismiss them in the same way as you done above - you and half of this forum would up in arms.

'just happened to be a foreigner' you are not paying attention - that fact he is a foreigner was accidental, the fact he is black was decisive. GOT IT?


Boo ho! I threat everyone the same. Maybe you're not used to it and as a woman you expect privileges or at lest a special treatment . No can do.

jon357:
1. good points but the culture shaped by those experiences is still there. At least some of it.
2. Debatable- few cities make no spring. let alone shape a culture that much.

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Dude stop peddling this neo-Marxist BS. Not taking in some people just because Germany, people and power and neo-Marxist culture different is not xenophobic is just a common sense.

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You're kidding dude!
Which Brits are you talking about? Middle class?


So what? Poland has been a melting pot for this part of the Europe for most that 400 years. With many cultures, religion and people. THAT has an impact on the culture.

The Brits are rather new to that experience. Large minorities arrived to Britain in the aftermath of the WWII.

YES, they have an authoritarian state that inforce so called PC policy that includes 'fighting with racism' but that doesn't mean that the people are not xenophobic or racists. Mind me I don't say all or even majority but there is an element of the culture that makes it OK for a xenophic attitude. You don't have anything akin to it in the Polish culture.

By the way you seem to be mixing xenophobia with racism.


So in the end you agree with me. Thank you.

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I wasn't referring to that specific issue. I was commenting on the general overtone of your comment of a spectacularly convoluted sentence.


I don't deny or not anything. I ask questions if that all right with you. Read closely to what to I have actually written, none one had been attacked in Poland for being a foreigner. In your exmaple of a troublesome teen, he punched a dude because of the color of his skin. (presumably)

For all he knew it cold have been a Polish national. Got caught and punished. Dane deal.
You on the other hand share that progressive mentality that goes ideological and keeps society responsible for the actions of some unruly teen. Boys and men have a peak of the level of aggression from the age of 14 up to 27. If they're not socialized and their energy is not channeled constructively the result can be and are explosive and manifest itself in an any-social behavior and in actual crime.

It is ridiculous to drove a nation to a hold and to do a moral browbeating just because some teen acted inappropriately. Your position implies that you would like it. THAT makes you akin to progressives. It doesn't solve anything but create more problems and in the process unjustly depict the country as dangerous for foreigners and blacks.


Poles (generally) are the least people to be xenophobic they are very positive towards foreigners. There is a racist undertone in people's thinking towards blacks but it rarely manifest itself in action.

In all ( I have ground to compare) Poles are one of the most open and tolerant societies on the glob. So to go and browbeat due to some random incidents is ridiculous to my mind.


You're overtly self-center and critical towards your own people. Because you compare them with an ideal not with any real country or a nation in the world. Same can be said about some high minded Americans.

I think we should stop here and think over this phenomena. Poles regardless of the Soviet oppression, social engineering, post-colonial PSD, WWII loses and general hardships they went through are still in top five nations that actually and factually are an open and tolerant nation. That is amazing if you think about it.

Would that be due to the Christian roots of the Polish culture and to its long tradition of freedom and republicanism?

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Every country has some kind of a folk music. Which is somewhat similar but in fact different. The same can be said about 'far-right' movements.

Also, the worlds today massive concern is about mass immigration, mainly of Muslim or third world people into Europe or countries with the European culture. That takes its toll and shapes the narrative.

Poland is a target of some progressives who take it personally that Poland is mainly a white people's country as if that was some aberration. So they try all that is in their power to change it.

If people in Poland resist to be socially engineered by some progressive commies from the west with a red chip on each shoulder that is only natural.

After all a social engineering by the smelly commie barbarians from the east with a red star tabooed on a receding forehead wasn't particularly benevolent for Poland or beneficial to Poles.

The country and people are still struggling with aftermath of its legacy and its consequences.
Small wonder that some or other young bucko talks about what is the top issue of his times. It could be also because it is easily definable issue and not too complex.

I digress, sorry. :)
Back to slogans:
England for the English - means no-to-foreigners! (Keep out unless specifically invited by all interested. lol)
Poland for Poles - means Poland ruled by Poles in the interest of the Polish people. (nothing there about immigration policy)

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Yes? When did it happen?


Well, I know that at least twice 'Polish' press reported about racist attacks on some foreigner with a different skin color. However it was a hoax, hog-wash and a lie.

So maybe you should READ Polish press carefully and with understanding rather than skim over the headlines.


1.duh!
2. Such a loaded sentence. You sound like one of our pet forums progressives. Well let me straighten you up!
- you cannot say that someone is using or faking his or her concern without any evidence. Your gut feeling about it is not enough. Its hogwash.

- secondly people in Poland are concerned about possibility of Muslim invasion of Poland. What is needed for an invasion - they need to establish foothold. I think that you should pay attention to the world around you. Danger of them doing just that was and still is very real and present, Germany was/is trying to pressure Poland into accepting a large quantity of them.

As for accepting Ukrainians. Those concerns are valid. Is not as if there was no previous issues with Ukrainians. Even thought a majority of them are perfectly decent people (except for few criminals), there some elements that are hostile to Poland for ideological and historical reasons.

Secondly taking too many people into Poland from one and the same nationality means they will form minority. Poland doesn't need an Ukrainian minority, period. Those who stay should assimilate and those who will not should move on.


Dude, every country has it society stratified. You cannot judge all the society by the action of few. How hard is to understand? Also there're people who are not happy with immigration but that doesn't mean they hate foreigners, some do of curse but you might find those even in the US. (and I'm not talking about attitude to Fesskins).

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What kind of nonsense it is? Has anyone been attacked in Poland for being a foreigner? That BIG news - when did it happened.


Hmm that is not quite the same Chemikiem. I would even say that the massage and philosophy behind those two 'slogans' is entirely different.

@Dirk diggler
stop that blathering, geez.. you're worse than washerwomen.

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The Brits voted for Brexit due to the EU immigration issue i.e. there is too many of them. That is a short and long of it.

As to sentiments and feelings Bits might have or not have towards Poles or so called EE that is a different issue.
Generally speaking they are more tolerant and open than the French, Danish, German, Italians, Greeks (regardless of the rhetoric and policies) but are less open and tolerant than Poles and Americans.

Not that it all matters much in the big scheme of things. lol!
After all Europeans are more tolerant and open than China, Japan, India or other non European (i.e. euroapen culture)

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Never the less he was a fascist. There is no doubt that he had seen Roosevelt as a one with fascist views. To what extend Roosevelt shared Mussolini's views can of course be debated but there is no doubt as to the fact that he shared enough of it to be viewed by an that archetypal fascist as a fascist in all but name.

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Not I, Benito Mussolini said 'he is one of us'. R send a mission to fascist Italy to see what elements of a fascist state introduced in Italy would work in the US.

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My, He had fascist ideas and you love it.

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Well their ideological brethren send non-believers to gulags or shot them on a spot. Some difference.

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What migrants? Those are European citizens, they should have been given all the rights of a German citizens or is that the EU state Germany are kin on building only to function in those areas that suits your interest?


Dude, in 1938 you were deluded in a similar way. You never will be on the right side of history if you gonna follow some crazy, nasty and dumb ideology.

Being a radical progressive neo-Marxist is not even a tad better than being a Nazis follower.

So by all means do your stupid thing and take all you want to take into Germany. Just stop bestow this blessing on other countries by mix of a nasty manipulation, propaganda and implied threats. Withhold your revolutionary enthusiasm and contend yourselves with congratulatory pad on a back by the bird's of a feather.

Count your blessing and enjoy a warm feeling of imaginary moral superiority whilst Poland, Hungary and Trump's American buy a popcorn to watch YOUR experiment with a bated breath.