USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]


Unbelievable ignorance!!
Afraid of communism and the Russians in 1898?
In 1898 Russia was a monarchy. There was no USSR.


Killing people because of different lifestyle?
So how different was the lifestyle in Colombia that it pushed the desperate Americans to steal Panama from them? Were those arepa and tamal that scared Americans shhitless?


Americans (and France) are the main powers responsible for turning once the richest colony in the World into an economic and social disaster in the first place. It was non other than Woodrow Wilson who was responsible for the restoration of virtual slavery in Haiti. America owes Haiti. Haiti owes American a nothing.


First, "socialist" as used above is debatable at least.
And then, what does that have to do with American "love" other people?


According to the Constitution, presidential elections cannot take place during an official state of emergency. No need to cancel elections. The declaration of the emergency cancels elections automatically.

USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]


Defense mechanism?
What were they defending themselves when they attacked Cuba in 1898? What were they afraid if when they stole Hawaii from its native population? Were they really afraid of Philippines? Nicaragua? Chile? Colombia and so many others?

The US is an empire that has been killing innocent people for a long time, and to this day it is against democratic processes around the world. How can that not mean that Americans hate all people, except for themselves of course.

USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]


Sadly, you appear dumb.
It has nothing to do with whether Poles have noticed there is a disaster or not. An official declaration of the state of emergency would automatically suspend the elections and many think this would make sense, as people have a few more things on their minds than the elections.

Additionally, handing of the flood might (or might not) be an important factor in the outcome of the elections.

As for the topic of the thread, it is too narrowed down. It should be "why do Americans hate all people?"


Increasingly it looks like the biggest anti-American here is you.
Or is it just your blindness? If you don't see the many issues that lead America in a downward spiral then I must assume you are.

USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]


Is there a government that does?

UK, Ireland / British or polish Passport ' Advice feedback [47]

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History / DID THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OF POLAND CENSOR MAIL IN AND OUT OF POLAND [29]


There was a joke circulating among Poles - to get rid of the Soviets, let's declare war on the US, let them attack us and then surrender.

There was a degree of sympathy towards the West during communist times so there would be likely defections but that would depend on the circumstances. Although very, very few knew about it, the Soviet plan, in case the West was prevailing, was to nuke central Poland at the cost of roughly 10 to 12 million Polish lives. The nuclear wasteland thus created would have been, according to the Soviet strategists, an effective barrier preventing NATO from penetrating too close to the paradise, i.e the USSR.

History / DID THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OF POLAND CENSOR MAIL IN AND OUT OF POLAND [29]

Yes, we were taught wrong on many issues too.

Btw. speaking of cold war, Polish forces, in case of a conflict between the West and the East was supposed to operate on the territories of Holland, Belgium and vicinity.

History / DID THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OF POLAND CENSOR MAIL IN AND OUT OF POLAND [29]


I guess this might be a got point to clarify some things.
One is surveillance - reading of correspondence, mostly without the knowledge of those closely watched. And then there is censorship whereby content of correspondence was in whole or in part removed or altered.

And now, to answer your question:

for periods of time only some person's correspondence was surveyed and/or censored, not everybody's. So they taught you wrong. Everybody's mail was scrutinized only during martial law. Whether in fact all the letters were open and read is another story. Personally I don't believe there was the capacity to ready millions of letters every single day during the martial law in Poland.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


I have. You need to bite a little biology to understand


Yes.


Likewise, multiculturalism and tolerance are not universally accepted.


Certainly an amateur.


Which ones?
And why are you insisting on using a racist, which Kant was, as a source of ethical bliss?


Actually, you could get in legal trouble for calling someone an "eskimo" in Canada, where they actually live. The term is offensive and not used in public media. Might be of use to you as an amateur "linguist".


I used quotes to cite the British concept, so fire at the British, not me.


See? You're at it again. Why are you constantly offending the Inuit people's of Canada, this time by calling them "primitives".


Unfair wars are wrong by definition, linguist. No need for Chomsky, who (if you ever read anything of substance by him) does accept that some wars could be fair and justified.


You keep writing about morality but I still have a feeling you have no idea what you're writing about. So once again - morality is relative and thus subject to interpretation.


Awesome. But this is irrelevant to the topic.


Partial? These are facts. So yes, I am partial to truth. You prefer lalaland instead. Americans working for the good o Iranian people. Haha Good one. You like them CIA agents, huh?


Gibberish, so I'll pass.


My belief in the book? Actually I don;t believe in one word of the book. It's a racist garbage.

Hatred towards Jews? Where? Quote me.


Groundless? Didn't you write about Poland being helped by the US? Now, that was groundless.


I'm not talking about me, but about ideas and concepts. There are created by man and are subject to whim, interpretation and emotion. Hence, there is no such think as ethics or morality in nature. Not even among the human race.


Again, I thought we were taking about issues, not about me. But since you seem to differ I have to admit that what I really detest right now is your scattered minded fishing around without much substance to it. You sound like a Sunday morning sermon or a motivational speech of girl scouts.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


How much more precise can you be than seeing the very existence of the races, and the affinity that races feel towards one's own kinds? Tolerance is the necessary step towards self annihilation in the areas of not only biological but also cultural and social. That's how some European countries started loosing full control their country and their way of life.


Millions think alike. And they have been for millena with Plato being just one of the examples. You have heard about Plato's "Republic" haven't you. Take some time and read it too.


Yes, the very rationality that you hoped to mix us all into one nondescript masses, deprived of individualism and group identity does fail indeed. On the biological scale we are indeed one species, but as individuals we do not think on the scale of the entire human kind. We think on the scale of and individual. the basic family unit, the basic and closest social group and so on and so forth. There can not be, and I doubt there ever will be, the nirvana of unconditionally loving thy brother. The scale is too large and, frankly, the governments around the world will not let that happen as peace is bad for business.


And you are a linguist?
So tell us about that vast difference between rationalization and ethical standards. Are these standards inherent in nature and completely irrational?


How rude! The "eskimos"? Is this your ethics at work? How can you call people derogatory name and then pretend to be some kind of defender of cross racial relations?

Are you in grade 5 reading some 19th century novels?
"Noble savage", huh?
No such thing. ALL human groups are perfectly capable of committing acts that are considered unethical by other groups. Still, is it ethical for them to kill baby seals? The whole world protests when they do so. For them it is an important part of their meager economy. We kill cows, they kill seals. If need be we kill them, and they kill us. The "need" can be any need as defined by the perpetrator of the aggression.


Morality is part of control system. Killing is deemed unethical except when... insert a few sound reasons that have been and are still used until this day. The key words are "except when" and they tell us that in fact killing is not unethical. It;s just a question of whether you can justify killing. The Nazis justified murder and they called it the law. Jews justified murder and they called it the Bible. Examples abound throughout history and around the world. As of late, murder has been given other labels, such as jihad, or the war on terror. Yes, the American and British war crimes are easily justified and accepted by their respective populations. The same withing the muslim world within the framework of their own approaches, which certainly are in opposition to those of the US and UK.

So tell me, who is moral here?


As someone said, fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. Empty words and hogwash.


A completely idiotic argument. You clearly have zero idea about Poland, US and USSR during WW2. So let me offer you an accelerated crash course in the subject - the US did not give one bit about Poland and in fact sold Poland out to the USSR in Yalta. The help the USSR received from the US amounted to about 5% of the Soviet costs. It could be argued that Poles fighting in Poland during WW2 contributed more to the war effort than Americans ever did. When you consider then number of Poles fighting on the Western front then those 5% of American cash pales in comparison to Polish input towards the liberation of others.

Just thought you might want to know.


Not a confession but a statement of fact. And that fact concerns you too.


David Hume and Immanuel Kant would be a start.


heavens indeed. Look for proof in the old testament. Heck, there is some in the NT too.

In conclusion, you need to read more, study more and get some facts straight. For now you have very little material to form half decent arguments. Unless you consider propaganda posters and motivational speeches actual knowledge.

History / DID THE COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OF POLAND CENSOR MAIL IN AND OUT OF POLAND [29]

Yes. Some people on the commie watch list could not get their letter in or out without them being covertly read by "someone". During martial law the censorship was not even covert and letters would arrive with a red stamp "Censured".

Also, for about the first year during martial law inter city travel was restricted within the country. One had to apply for a permit.

Direct employees of the communist puppet government (the military, the police and higher ranking communist officials) were censored too, especially in regards to letters they send to or received from abroad.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


Germans wound manual crossbows, Poles crossbow machines; German released arrows and Poles released arrows and other missiles, Germans rolled in slingshot machines with stones, and Poles milling stones and sharp poles.


Species and races.


Not a good example. Molestation is not necessary for reproduction. Defending one's offspring is.


Rationality is a social concept. Not biological one.
On social levels, as I said before, anything can be rationalized. Germans rationalized the murder or Slavs, Jews, gays etc. The British rationalized the murder of natives of many lands. Poles rationalized the occupation of Ukraine. American rationalized the war with Mexico. Jews rationalized the extermination of a few nations, and they still rationalize a lot of their own atrocities. In all those cases the one who hold s the power is right. If the balance of power changes then the other side is right Ergo, ethics, rationality and morality is but an illusion, a temporary creation that takes the shape needed by those who can dictate what is and what isn't ethical, moral or rational.


Our nature has zero to do with morality. Nature is morally neutral, except for the perpetuation of itself. That is the only morality.


You are certainly free to agree with one of thousands of philosophers, and I see you tend to lean towards those with anthropocentric views. I don't, as I don't think humans are any more special in the universe than any other creatures.


I'm not selling anything, but yes, sometimes intolerance can be defined as moral.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


This statement contradicts basic biology. A mother will be intolerant of anybody endangering her offspring. A belief group will be intolerant of another belief group is the latter tries to impose its values on the former. A mountain of examples can be added.


Why? What's wrong with asking questions?

The rationality is really pretty simple. The stronger sets the rules and the victors are not judged. It's been like that for the last, I dunno... millions of years? But no need to look further than today's Israel and the Occupied territories.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling that you are trying to mix in morality/ethics into the mix. And that's where everybody is right and everybody is wrong. Morality is relative.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


First, I did not make any attempts to justify intolerance. But then, anything can justify intolerance. The issue is whether intolerance is accepted or not and that depends on ethics/law and such. On various levels intolerance is as natural as eating and sleeping. A lot of times intolerance varies only be the degree which it reaches. We all are intolerant in one form or another.


I didn't say there was anything wrong with Poles in the UK.


Oh, that question!
I see no need to correct it. The question stands.

Is it always the perceived aggressor that is 100% at fault?
Sometimes yes, other times not. It all depends on the context and just to illustrate it with an example: a thief gets jail time. Is the thief persecuted by the judge?

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


Formally the Statute of Kalisz referred to Jews and Christians and for an obvious reason - anybody living on territories under Polish king's rule was subject to the law, not just those of Polish nationality.

However, I think there is sufficient grounds for questioning the blanket statement that peasants had no nationality at the time. Most those who lived on Polish territories were Poles, whether they were peasants or not, and whether the sense of nationhood was strong or not. Hence, when we discuss Mongol invasion of Poland we talk about Poles being killed by Mongols. When Gallus Anonimus writes about The Defense of Glogow he does not write about "classes" of People. He clearly writes about people's nationalities, and he does at leats 160 years before The Staute of Kalisz was written up:

Niemcy nakre;cali kusze re;czne, Polacy zas' machiny z kuszami; Niemcy wypuszczali strza?y, a Polacy strza?y i inne pociski; Niemcy zataczali proce z kamieniami, a Polacy kamienie m?yn'skie i silnie zaostrzone pale.

etc.

Just to clarify that among those fighting were Polish peasants, Gall's Chronicle is helpful again:

"do walki z wrogiem stanęło nie tylko rycerstwo, ale cała ludność. Zawzięci chłopi znosili drobniejsze oddziały niemieckie, nękali wroga po lasach i bagnach".

You may also look into this fragment in Latin
zswsucha.iap.pl/STREFA_N/WiLeHi/lektury/kronika/0120.htm
by the same author, and notice the frequent use of the word "Poloni".

When in the beginning of the 13 century the Teutonic order started the policy of settling the newly arrived peasants in the areas they occupied, the settlers were not just any peasants but peasants of German ethnicity. Had there be no distinction between Polish or German peasants then why would have The Teutonic Order settled the lands with peasants coming from areas much farther from Prussia, rather then with peasants living in the vicinity? Was it the peasant's nationality that was considered.


Any sense of unfairness, real or perceived, will cause some form of hatred, particularly when those not considered native to the land find themselves in a better, and sometimes even equal, position as the natives. Nothing changed since those days. Just look at the the Poles in UK.


Correct a question? As opposed to answers, I thought questions can hardly be incorrect.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]

While other European countries hunted, killed and/or expelled Jews Poland gave them all kinds of rights. Thus privileges Jews were given in the 13th century in Poland, and consistently upheld until Poland lost its independence were indeed extraordinary. Some of the privileges actually put Jews over and above vast majority of Poles at the time.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


I wonder why you picked the nick you did if you can't understand uncomplicated posts.
I merely corrected a statement as to when Jews were given extraordinary privileges in Poland.

Food / Powidła - Poland's versatile plum butter [19]


Jam (dzem in Polish) is not the same as powidla.
"Powidla" apply only when prunes are the sole ingredient. Except for (rarely) a little bit of water, nothing is added.

"Dzem" (jam), on the other hand, in addition to the fruit, contain lotsa sugar and sometimes gelatine.

History / Casimir the Great (Kazimierz Wielki) started anti-Semitism? [101]


I dunno about whether that was the reason for anti-semitism but I know that Jews were granted extraordinary privileges a few decades before that, by Boleslaus the Pious.

What is remarkable with anti-semitism is that the source of it is always looked for outside Jews themselves. Are there no reasons for anti-semitism withing the Jews themselves? None?

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


So let's address the points concerning Czekolsovakia.

How about we start with the Munich Agreement in which Great Britain played a critical part.
And now, a psychic Brit is spilling his crocodile tears over a scrap of land, a fraction of what his own government stole from the CZechoslovals and gave to the Nazis.


Indeed.
Hence it was pretty perfidious of the British to break their commitment to the Treaty of Versailles and to participate in an act of robbery of the defenseless Czekoslovakia. But then, nothing new under the Sun. The Brits have cause more political and military trouble in the history of human kind than any other nation, even than Nazi Germany.

Law / May 14th -- Big Day on the markets [21]

If the paper money is becoming worthless and gold follows then I guess the last "safe" investment remaining is military grade uranium. Kinda dicey to keep it in the mattress though.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

@FUZZYWICKETS

Nice post.
But the fool above me wasn't writing about Poland, or even EU.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]


Yup, and we get to keep our homes and we didn't have to pay a penny to bail out thieves a.k.a. banks.


Why would anyone envy foreclosures?
Are you some kind of a masochist?

Well, keep on living in the past. America is owned by the communist China and terrorist Saudis anyway. The commies out-tricked you big time so the joke is on you.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]


Yeah, we have seen lots of those dreams.
Foreclosed.

Language / Ski Or Ska? - Polish surname endings [44]


In fact, in some countries they actually do. For instance in Russia, Ukraine etc.

A Polish woman in Poland can also have the -ski ending if her last name is so registered.

History / Anita J. Prazmowska's "The Polish Century" [24]


She's full of shhit, but smart enouhg to make a buck or two, even if she contradicts herself.

First she writes a book on the betrayal of Poland (Britain and Poland 1939-1943: The Betrayed Ally), and then she bullshhits about the search for those responsible for Poland's tragedy shifts variously from Churchill to Stalin and to Roosevelt.

People will do a lot, and say nearly anything to make a dollar.

News / Jarosław Kaczyński sharing his words with Russians! [57]


So could you quote the official text of the Russian apology for Katyn?


Are you sure you didn't mean to post the above on some Jewish holocaust forums?

Language / How do you add and 'ing' to the end of the verb in Polish? If you do. [17]

No such thing in Polish as -ing or equivalent as Polish does not have the present continuous tense.

Language / Distinguishing between boy/boyfriend/......girl/girlfriend in polish [14]


It looks like it's not yours either.
Main Entry: boy·friend
Pronunciation: \ˈbȯi-ˌfrend\
Function: noun
Date: 1845

1 : a male friend
2 : a frequent or regular male companion in a romantic or sexual relationship


and you know all guys?
Even gay ones?

Language / Distinguishing between boy/boyfriend/......girl/girlfriend in polish [14]


Depends on what you mean by "relationship".
Girlfriend may refer to a romantic or non-intimate relationship. Hence, you could have a girlfriend and that would not automatically imply that you are a lesbian.

The same with boyfriend. The relationship does not always mean that the relationship is of romantic or sexual nature.