History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]

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From the allies yes the Polish pilots were one of the best if not the best. Poland had one of the best fighter training schools in europe (I forget the name). Consider the fact that Germans had better planes and more planes on invasion day. Yet Poland with her planes managed to have close to 1:1 ratio in planes downed.

Now fast forward to the Battle of Britain. Poland used better technology of the Brits and we raped the Luftwaffe in many cases.

As far as technology is concerned I am strickly speaking of the late 1930s.
Much of Polands equipment was bought and upgraded from other countries thats why there is little mention of it.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


wrong. as I stated they were using PZI and PZII for the most part in the early part of the war.
The Polish 7TP tank was better than a PZII and worst than a PZIII.

The problem wasnt the quality but quantity. We didnt produce enough tanks to counter the Germans in time.

History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


i agree. in fact imo Poland had the best fighter pilots in WWII.
we did quite well considering our planes didnt have the huge numbers.


I agree that France+England+Poland would beat Germany. How long I dont know. But some uninformed people would not believe us.


I agree the stuff is quite exaggerated at how powerful and advanced they were.
They had most technology that was on par with the rest of Europe.
The problem was German numbers (and then soviet numbers) and thats why Poland lost in the Battle/Invasion of Poland.

The quality of their commanders is a lie also. The Lightning war wasnt that smart (assuming you believe in it... its just common sense). The soldiers training was about the same as other European soldiers.

Life / Positive things which make a Pole stand out positively in the World! [30]

Interesting topic.

What you stated seems true (here in Canada and probably in the States too).

Polish girls are beautiful and loved by people all over the world (I would guess per capita Poland is above average in this area).

Also when it comes to food Perogi, Pickles, Ponczki are liked I think.

Poles on average are more willing to work than many people I realized (the dirty work like construction, electricians, etc)

And Poles have one of the highest IQs in Europe from some tests Ive seen.

History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

Im going to have to agree with Des Essientes on this.

Although just to keep the discussion going...

Many different 'races' have walked in Europe. The majority of us are Proto Indo-European anyway which is why I dont like this argument.

Example 1:

euratlas.net/history/europe/1/index.html

You have the Vandali in that 'argument' area of land.
Some Vandali tribes were Germanic and some were also Slavic.
In this time period most of the land around there was simply called Germania but like I said both Germanic and Slavic people were in the area. Slightly east you had the Sarmatians.

The same is true for the Veneti tribes (also just east of the location).

Example 2:

euratlas.net/history/europe/900/index.html

A good portion of Germanic land was Slavic (including the Sorbs).
If you want to play the Germanic=German game, then Western Slavic=Polish.

Example 3:

euratlas.net/history/europe/1000/index.html

By this time Poland is a "country". Nearby you have the HRE (which I personally would not call a country). Here in some of the disputed land you have the Obotrites, Veleti, etc which were mostly slavic.

Then you have Pomerania (one major city Szczecin/Stettin). Ah yes the place that Germans and Poles love to argue about. Well infact Pomerania held Germanic people, and slavic people (the Kushubian), and others. The fact is neither country had claim to this land (Germany who didnt actually exist and Poland who did not have full influence of the area). Afaik the cities origin is ~700/800AD.

Sorry to spoil everyones argument but I believe the country which first held Szczecin for a significant time was Denmark. See map of Europe in 1100 and 1200 for changes. And of course Poland and the states of the HRE (not Germany) fought for it many times.


Please read my above post. Gdansk/Danzig area was inhabited by many peoples. We can go back thousands of years and its pointless. Poland actually made Gdansk into a real city before the Germans did.


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History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]


I am glad you know this.

The Germans werent invincible in 1939. In fact many countries including Poland, France, etc had technology that was on par with the Germans (except for maybe the Luftwaffe planes).

The Germans attacked Poland with mostly PzI and PzII tanks. Even the Polish 7TP could hold its on against those. The problem was numbers.

News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Like I said earlier I think East Ukraine loyalty is more towards Russia.
and West Ukraine (independant nation who might enjoy western countries more)


Personally I like larger countries. I think even today Czechoslovakia should be one.
I also think Yugoslavia should be one. But they were destroyed partly by themselves and partly by Americans (refering to Yugoslavia)

History / The smallest Poland ever? [115]

I agree. The white race birthrates are lowest ever in recent history. The worst suffering nations of this are the slavic people. Russia will lose 35-40 million by 2050, Poland 5 million, Ukraine will have population lower than Poland 2050.

Less tv and more sex. Asia population is booming, Africa population is booming, Other countries are kept at par with immigrants coming inside.

News / Poland A and Ukraine B. Compare how far Poland has advanced. [282]

Here is my explanation:

1)Poland is more united as a country (although not greatly).
West Ukrainian has mostly Ukrainians speaking and they are more patriotic to the nation of Ukraine.
East Ukrainian has mostly Russian speaking people. Many of which want to rejoin with Russia.

2)Ukrainian is further east away from the heart of europe (central europe).

3)Definitely the Holodomar played influence. I think its sad that every american knows what the Holocaust is (through american/zionist media propaganda) while very little people in the western world know what the Holodomar is.

Here in Canada they had memorals for holocaust victims. There is 1,000,000 Polish people here and 400,000 Jewish people. The whole memorials didnt say a world about Polish victims.

All they did was mentioned 6 million Jewish deaths without counting millions of others.
Sadly slavic people (Russian, Polish, Ukrainian) people are still sometimes looked down on in the US and Canada. The guys in charge are 1)WASP 2)Jewish and sometimes 3) German, slavics are 'lesser'.

Feedback / Why are there so many on here, who do not like Poland [150]


Amen. I personally as a Polish Canadian love Poland.
But you are right about constructive criticism. I do that very often about Canada.

History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]

I just wanted to say there is lots of good Jewish people and of course lots of bad ones.
I am not sure on this but the majority of Jewish people are probably zionists. I personally am 100% against the state of Israel and the actions they take on nearby people. In many senses they are similar to Nazi Germany on a smaller scale. At the same time there is differences.

In my opinion (especially here in North America) Muslims are portrayed as bad people way to much.
The amount of people that think Iran is evil is huge. And its said.

The fact is Israel has nuclear weapons. Iran wants nuclear power for other reasons (there is no proof and also they do not have the capability to make nukes). You know what even if Iran does make nukes good for them. If Israel has nukes why shouldnt one of their biggest enemies?

One of the main reasons America supports Israel is because America itself has about the same much Jews as that of Israel. The fact is many of these Jewish people have power in America (AIPAC, AJC, guys from the media, judges, politicians, etc). This is no anti-semitic comment its just true.

As someone mentioned earlier the anti-semite accusation is losing weight.
Real anti-semites deny holocaust, would kill Jews, etc.
However nowadays people who make sometimes generalizations about Jews are labelled this term as well even though they are not anti-semites.

History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]


exactly. some extra points I would add:

1)some Jews (not all) already think that anti-zionist=anti-semitic (which is absolutely wrong).
2)for the majority of countries the term racist is used but the chosen ones have to make themselves unique with the term anti-semite
3)Palestinians are also semite and the israel army kills them daily.

News / What are Poland's optimal both real and virtual neighbors? [81]


Well I live in Canada and havent been to Poland in over 15 years but here are my opinions.

Germany: I think Polands relationship with Germany is on fairly good terms
Czech and Slovakia: Czechs and Slovaks I cant really say. They are very similar to us in some matters.
Ukraine: I dont have anything bad to say about Ukraine really. East Ukraine is mostly Russian speaking and some of them wouldnt mind rejoining Russia. West Ukraine is mostly Ukraine speaking. They are quite nationalistic.

Belarus: I am not sure.
Lithuania: I personally have no problems with them.
Russia: is a VERY complex situation. Either Poland has to have aid from the west or from Russians or mix it somehow -_-

(If I have any misinformation please correct).

History / Poland paid off American Jewry in 1960 [162]


AIPAC and AJC are very powerful and influence American politics.
Why do you think America sends BILLIONS of dollars to Israel and pretends to supply them for "Defensive purposes". Its just a big lie.

"What we Say Goes- Noam Chomsky" book discusses this in more detail.

History / The smallest Poland ever? [115]

I think a bigger problem is Polands population (i.e birthrate, people leaving the country).

More on topic although this will never happen...
it would be nice if Russia give us Kaliningrad and area for reparations.
and Ukraine give us Lwow back and the very west of Ukraine so we can border with Hungary -_-

Life / Poland's population growth problem [44]

The problem is very big in my opinion.
Like someone said already the birthrate of white people in the majority of Europe is becoming slower.
The worst hit is eastern/central Europe.

I will only show a few examples:

Polands population will drop from ~38,000,000 to ~33,000,000 by 2050.
Russias population will go from ~140,000,000 to ~105,000,000
Ukraines population ~46 million to ~30 million.
photius.com/rankings/world2050_rank.html

These differences are huge!

People leaving to other countries is one problem. I am in Canada
and the population of Polonia in Canada/USA is 10,000,000.
The other problem is the low birthrate in Poland like I mentioned above.

Countries like Britain and France are sustaining population because of hundreds of thousands of immigrants from outside Europe.

We need to start having more babies. This can result in the Polish and slavic population having more influence in Europe.