News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


I doubt that is her desire nor in her power...

But I really think the future global world will be abit like the US...lotsa different cultures and languages and religious differences still be able to live side by side under one government with the same set of civil rights and laws for all.

I don't think that's imperialism but a kind of necessity and logical consequence of centuries old developments...starting with tribes, then federadion of tribes, then nation states, then unions of nation states...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Well....it doesn't takes place exactly "KNOW"...but is a rethoric staple by PiS since 2006...remember Anna Fotyga?


You want something, you go and produce...it should be easy since, in your opinion, it's a clear case!

...damn typos... It should be "NOW" of course....not "know"...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


When even anti-german PiS is "all talk and bluster but no action" than you should ask yourself why that is. Wouldn't they rather have long "acted" if they knew they had any chance of success? That their claims had any legal basis? Even the smallest one?

Or do they just "blustering" because they KNOW it's all crap?

For me the answer is totally clear...and hence the outcome.

Interesting info from a Pole, starting with the Potsdam conference till today:

ppd.pism.pl/Numery/4-71-2017/Poland-and-Germany-Reparations-Stanislaw-Zerko

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Nah...from that Steakhouse over the street...mjammi!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Depends on the political will....especially if it goes into the so called newer members. It's hard to explain it to a German why he should pay more for PiS Poland or Orban's Hungary...when they are confronted with the likes of reparations and accusations.

Their anti-german rethoric might come good at home...but it's rather a kind of "biting the hand thats feeding him". Not smart!

Would I want to pay some more Tax-Euro for some Dolno? For sure! :)

Would I want to pay some more for some Spike? Ermm....rather not! :(

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Especially in the wake of the Brexit. Less net-payer means either the few left pay a bigger share or the funds are revisited and reduced. Which would mean some billions less for Poland...

To annoy Germany is really not the smartest way to go about it...I wonder how the successor of Merkel will handle that...if he/she is as nice and polite as Merkel...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Chickens! :)

They see "Mutti" Merkel and think they can wrangle some more monies from her...the nice, polite woman she is. Attacking her and with her Germany costs Poland nothing! As it is beneath her to treat Poland likewise back. She will keep to the treaties no matter what.

They see Putin and don't even dare!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Poland could go to any international court if they mean it...but on legal grounds they would lose and they know it, that's why they don't. So it's tried with political pressure...good luck! :)

Not to forget that one requirement for membership in the EU is the closure of open conflicts to avoid that the EU "inherits" conflicts between members. A demand for reparation from another member is for sure an open conflict. I dare even say that a membership had not been possible if Poland back then had claimed any legal rights of further reparations from Germany. That leaves only one conclusion, it's over and done!

All tries to keep that topic in the headlines is made by PiS totally for domestic reasons only...you fall for that at your own peril!


Agreed. Namibia is still an open case...they got no compensation whatsoever...no legal closure too, as far as I know.


Astounding, isn't it.... :)

I doubt Russia has subscribed to the same treaties as Germany and Poland have..so a polish claim for russian reparations should have better prospects of success than getting some from Germany!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


It isn't reparations...it's compensation if I'm informed correctly. And only for Jews, not for Germans. It's about jewish property which was given to Poles or taken over by the new polish state and never was given back to the survivors and relatives, correct?

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Not if one is a sci-fi fan! :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

....even if you look...say...500 years into the future?

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Why stop at that? Poland should fight to re-gain the Kresy again...yeah...let's turn back time and borders!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

I'm nothing if not a totally grim and humourless Learner!!!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Heh:) You are bantering again, right? LOL

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Would you tell the US to change their ways too? Ever heard of world wide anti-americanism? Well..in Europe it's Germany, especially with France falling so far behind during the last 10/15 years.

Every big and powerful country get's this treatment, it's par of the course for smaller countries to mistrust the stronger one and NOTHING Germany can do to change that, short of partition itself to make itself small and weak. That's the ONLY thing to understand about that...

The EU is Europe's best bet to dissolve some of Germany's power and put it in "shackles" if you so want. That's why the anti-EU stance of some nationalists is so incredible dumb that it boggles the mind.

And now....could you please stop harking on about....it get's really, really, really repetitive and boring. Especially as neither I nor Germany can do anything realistic to change that!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

....sometimes I miss emoticons.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


But of course bad stereotypes and jokes about Poles are mean and totally wrong, but the stereotypes about Germans are soo funny and so totally right! Heh:)

Life / Political correctness in Poland [210]


I for one could not do without my coffee...really!
(I'm not so hot about mathematics though)

atlantablackstar.com/2014/10/01/12-african-inventions-that-changed-the-world/

Life / Political correctness in Poland [210]


...or...as it was called "The Middle Ages" in Europe?

I can't help to think there is a great overestimation of the "white" achievements coming from their current prevalence. It's an illusion to believe that this has always been that way or that it always will be so.

Life / Political correctness in Poland [210]


Well...they made it out of Africa for once? That was very brave! And where would we be now if they had stayed put? :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

I dunno if that works...outrageous garbage doesn't sound any better when taking a whole people hostage for it.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

You don't need to be a hobby-historian to see that basic rule.

You even said so yourself...especially the negative stereotyping resorts generally to "THEM" (insert lotsa crappy stuff) against "US" (insert lotsa good stuff).

To hurl the same wild accusations with "IMHO" just isn't the same to them, it seems...

Life / Political correctness in Poland [210]

Now that's easy...the blackies!

We all are descendants from some black people somewhere in Africa...now if that isn't an accomplishment then what is?

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Heh:) I use it more often than not! :)

But generally nationalist nutters thrive on the "We" against "You"...believing they are speaking for millions of people, the whole people and who begs to differ is either brainwashed or an idiot or a commie..or everything together!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

...or using the short but oh so much more truthful "IMHO" (In My Humble Opinion)....

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


She was! I doubt she can not be respectful...you can think of her politics what you want (I'm not a fan either btw.) but she was always known as a quiet, pragmatic and respectful personality. Even sometimes a little bit "to" quiet.

I guess many of her opponents are gonna miss her for that...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

You didn't know?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Angela_Merkel

One of the many millions of "Gerpoles" living in both countries...we are so mixed up! :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

...so, they hate Merkel even as she has polish roots and they love Trump even as he has german roots?

Crazy people! :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


I wonder about that "closer" too...after all the polish gov made anti-german propaganda their daily staple.

Even as they are now crying about Merkel leaving, as they very well know it won't get any warmer in Berlin for Poland now, they couldn't help themselves and blasting any good relationship Poland and Germany still had from before PiS times...

That Poles and Germans still grew closer inspite of all that is astounding and proof of the resilience of the polish people! :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


And here a reality check from this year:


thefirstnews.com/article/poles-and-germans-growing-closer-together-survey-shows-879


Something to remember...better to ignore the few nutters here, they are so not speaking for the majority of Poles who is equally pro-EU and sees a common future with Germany! :)


politico.eu/article/germany-poland-no-longer-seen-as-threat-poll/