History /
The Pogrom on Jews at Eishyshok (Ejszyszki) in Poland [68]
Stalin (exteme left) did not differ that much from Hitler (extreme right)
Tomorrow I will go in depth on this one, I am too wasted right now,
Can you go in depth on off-topic topic in the appropriate thread in stead of disrupting this one? This one is on "The Pogrom at Eishyshok(Ejszyszki)."
Mods: Can you move the disrupting discussion on Nazism and communism away from this thread? Thank you. Posts 57-67, however interesting belong elswhereWhat Jolanda fails to point out, however, is Chodakiewicz is largely discredited by his Polish colleagues:
Said who? Laurence Weinbaum: "adjunct lecturer in history at the College of Judea and Samaria." Please.
Now read about Chodakiewicz: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek_Jan_Chodakiewicz
"Chodakiewicz's motivations seem less sanguine, and the fact that his wild assertions have received official endorsement is most disturbing. This is especially so becausehis book (even before it was translated) was trashed by many of his colleagues in Poland, including highly regarded authorities in the field. Those scholars severely chastised the unprofessional way in which Chodakiewicz used sources."
So you listed some of them. I went to the first historian you listed:
historians Andrzej Rzeplinski
What kind of historian is he to discredit a real historian?
Andrzej Rzepliński (born November 26, 1949 in Ciechanów) - Polish lawyer, human right expert, member of International Helsinki Federation for Human Rights.
Until martial law in Poland was introduced in 1981 he was an apparatchik of Polish United Workers' Party.
wiki
He is not an historian but a communist lawyer. You should check your sources better. The next one you listed, Andrzej Zbikowski, doesn't even register anywhere of note. I don't want to waste more time on other "experts" "discrediting" a well respected historian like Chodakowski.
(Even though the report is balanced, it will be discredited as "Zionist" or even "Jewish" and dismissed by the intellectually dishonest).
It is not a report, but an article in an Israeli newspaper, by a Jew in a Jewish paper. You call call it Jewish if you like, but it has nothing to do with the book you referenced. The book was not even mentioned.
So, why do you insist that it was a pogrom, meaning that Jews were killed only because they were Jews, by anti-Semitic Polish AK(sic)?
This how this thread references now:
anti-semitism.net/the-pogrom-at-eishyshokejszyszki/
I guess I have become part of the "deniers of this pogrom." LOL
Note: We can either examine the facts of this case and decide if it was a pogrom, or Yaffa Eliach is lying and she get's wide support for doing so. Of course, some are interested to disrupt the thread so it perhaps gets locked out.
It is not that I don't want to give details but most of the information I have is in Polish and the article in the NYT does not link as you can see here:
The Yaffa Eliach "Pogrom at Eishyshok", The New York Times, nytimes.com/ref/opinion/27opclassic.html
The basic facts are these: Yaffa Eliach wrote a book
There Was a World about a town of Ejszyszki where she had lived with her parents. The town had a population of 3,500 Jews(town's main inhabitants) and life was good.
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejszyszki#cite_note-2
There is a saying in Yiddish "Sleepy as in Ejszyszki." The history of the village is interesting as a study of Jewish life but that is not what Dr Eliach is willing to limit her story to. In 1944, under the Soviet occupation, two Jewish persons were killed, her mother and her little brother, but 30 other surviving Jews were unharmed. This she calls a pogrom. She was seven years old at the time.
In 1939 came the occupants, the Soviets, then the Germans, who murdered most of the population, then the Soviets came back. It is important to note that there was not much difference in the way the German Gestapo went about their business than the Soviet NKVD on Polish lands.
I must go but will continue.
One note: I'm sorry you dismissed Chodakiewicz's book because he includes the testimonies of the unharmed thirty Jews as given to NKVD in the investigation.
