News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Delph, how is your Polish? Buy Newsweek and have a read of the article there. It shows how there was negligence in not navigating the plane properly from Ground Control and also how they said they were on the right course. Also, the TVN guy painted a wrong picture of the pilot. They said he didn't understand key procedures but he showed that he did. The article will open your eyes, Delph. The decision to go to autopilot was particularly controversial. Looking for the runway? Why? Because they weren't helped and there wasn't even an ILS in place, never mind an MLS.

The Russians had enough data to guide them. Also, they didn't inform the Polish crew of the cold and heavy air in the terrain dips. That increased the rate of decline and precipitated the demise. Also, read up on TAWS and how it works in foreign climes. It is hardware from Tucson, Arizona. I think there was an interview on Youtube with the owner of the company.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

George Bush was there? ;)

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Neither do those who support the official line. They support what they see to be most logical. That's why we need a neutral, aviation debate and not those that make it an adversarial circus.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Yes, and aversion seems to mean nothing to you. I was the one who put forward technologies and their applications so cut the crap.

CK, anything could have happened and they are unlikely to say that it was Lech. Anyway, Lech would just have wanted to land and the pilots should have explained the inherent dangers.

Life / 80% of Polish people are boring or can't party, why? [179]

Oh yeah, for sure! They only wanna hear the good things, the ego flattering stuff. I just leave when an argument starts after too much vodka. It gets ridiculous.

Life / 80% of Polish people are boring or can't party, why? [179]

Polish men have no SOH? Some of the ones I know do but many don't.

Life / 80% of Polish people are boring or can't party, why? [179]

Fun is very personal, that's true. I guess we are not invited to the best Polish parties as native speakers ;) ;) Well, that's what my Polish wife said, hehehe

The inner self is on the run but he knows he must teach tomorrow morning so he'll come back round :)

I just say it as a wind-up, Ironside. I get on very well with quite a few Poles and drinking with them would be a pleasure. I don't judge it by nationality but by character. Many Poles bring some smart commentary to the table.

Life / 80% of Polish people are boring or can't party, why? [179]

Some talk about the most trivial of crap. Some are just know it alls and others just sit around with prune faces. Hardly a riveting mix! Thank God things pick up when the vodka kicks in.

News / Komorowski for complex-ridden Poles? [94]

Well, he is gonna get on great with Komorowski then :)

Komorowski is off to engrave his 'Yes Donald' stamp :)

History / WOULD EUROPE BE SAFER IF ŚLĄSK, SCOTLAND ET AL WERE FREE? [22]

Pol3 really thinks in mysterious ways. No, crime is crime.

Life / Are you too selfish to leave Poland? [22]

It's a matter of choice! Poles have learned to make do with less but the alleged jealous of the neighbour idea could force a few abroad.

Life / 80% of Polish people are boring or can't party, why? [179]

I grasp it very well. I passed your various tests, remember? :) Can I reel out more bait to you? :)

Sorry, the Polish parties I've been to have been dismal affairs though I know it can be different.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

And you know those people, CK?

Life / 80% of Polish people are boring or can't party, why? [179]

Those 20% certainly make up for it. However, I can see why the OP would think so. Quite a few Poles have turned boredom into an art form.

UK, Ireland / Poles do a U turn: England to Poland and then back to England again. [23]

This was the thread I wanted to use as evidence before. It's important for different reasons. However, it tends to be the romantic, pie-in-the-sky types that flutter and the practical ones can stand by their decisions.

News / 20 YEARS ON A BETTER POLAND -- ALSO BETTER POLES? [21]

More liberated :) Still obsessed with old commies, tho

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

It wasn't and that's the point! His voice was not heard in the transcript.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Some learn from their mistakes, CK. The pilots would have told him that it was too unsafe in that case.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Oh, how is that, CK? Go on, show us the evidence.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Well, the Russians could also have gained access to secret NATO codes:

washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/13/inside-the-ring-86422687/

Quite embarrassing too :) Some more decoding work to do, LOL

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Well, I'm sure plk123 has all the answers ;)

Language / Polish Slang Phrases - Elephant Me! - Huh?!! [14]

Hmm....it just seemed more plausible. Thanks :)

Language / Polish Slang Phrases - Elephant Me! - Huh?!! [14]

Wouldn't it be zasłonięte? Many I'm confusing this with another word but I think it means covered.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

If 'go around' was so logical, why didn't he do it?

UK, Ireland / Fish and chips - do Polish people in the UK like this? [108]

Marmite? Some do and some don't. It's a love/hate thing oftentimes. I love it!

I'm from a coastal city so we get very fresh fish, right off the boat. There's a fish bar called The Torry Bar and the fish there is orgasmic :) (not literally) ;)

We have The Ashvale and The Dolphin, 2 award-winning chippies. However, some local establishments are worth scoping out as their food is sensational.

UK, Ireland / Fish and chips - do Polish people in the UK like this? [108]

No, I meant that I go to Zabrze for quality products so I am sure you can come through to Gliwice for some :)

They have some really good cheeses in Tesco here. As a Brit, I can vouch for the cheddar. Not as good as some I have tasted but remarkable value for the price.

Oh, fish and chips. Try different types before forming an opinion. There is a fair difference between chippies.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

The message to pull up was first given earlier. This is why we need an academic international debate with eminent experts. Nothing less will do!

UK, Ireland / Fish and chips - do Polish people in the UK like this? [108]

Frd, I have some cheddar cheese and guess where I got it? Right here in Gliwice. You can get it from Tesco. It is Tesco's own and is really good. Half the price of other quality cheeses. I come to Zabrze for quality (Makro). Gliwice is right by you :)

Fish and chips? I guess some Poles like it :)

Ketchup? My wife goes through it like there's no tomorrow.

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Well, you said it for me, Delph (the last point you made) :)

I agree, they had a matter of seconds. So why not pull up as an impulsive measure given their lack of rational reaction time?

News / Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]

Plk123, sway me from what exactly?

You yourself said that there is much waiting to be done so how can I say if you are right or wrong?

None of us know of monkeying.

Oh, I understand why. I'm just amazed at how foolish they were.

So, where is the relevant info in the transcript about spotting the runway? It would have been of concern to them well before the final approach.