delphiandomine
28 Aug 2013
Life / What makes a man a Pole? what does it mean to be a Pole? [187]
Fits with the romantic ideals over pragmatism.
Fits with the romantic ideals over pragmatism.
delphiandomine
28 Aug 2013
News / Does Poland have a social market economy? [6]
And a very truthful statement. There was a huge cadre of workers in 1989 who had no real interest in working properly - they had spent a significant amount of time in a system where it was nearly impossible to get fired for being bad at your job - and these are the ones who struggled immensely in the new era. Meanwhile, those that knew how to work found themselves in a much better situation.
Perhaps it wouldn't have happened had they been productive to begin with. Did you know that East German productivity still lags considerably behind the West, even all these years later?
What was the alternative? Poland had no money at all - and she had to make sure that her liabilities (pensions, etc) were still paid. The factories were often old and outdated - and unprofitable. I'm a huge supporter of worker self government in the Yugoslav model - but experience shows us that Solidarity management was every bit as awful as PZPR management.
Many of those industries were worthless.
A very uncharitable and arrogant statement by a have against the have-nots.
And a very truthful statement. There was a huge cadre of workers in 1989 who had no real interest in working properly - they had spent a significant amount of time in a system where it was nearly impossible to get fired for being bad at your job - and these are the ones who struggled immensely in the new era. Meanwhile, those that knew how to work found themselves in a much better situation.
Did anyone ask to be born in a town where the sole employer got balcerised throwing everybody out of work?
Perhaps it wouldn't have happened had they been productive to begin with. Did you know that East German productivity still lags considerably behind the West, even all these years later?
Balzerman's hand-over of the economy to foreign capital was a sell-out from whcih Poland may never recover.
What was the alternative? Poland had no money at all - and she had to make sure that her liabilities (pensions, etc) were still paid. The factories were often old and outdated - and unprofitable. I'm a huge supporter of worker self government in the Yugoslav model - but experience shows us that Solidarity management was every bit as awful as PZPR management.
Rather than helping create a native entrepreneurial class, he sold off Poland's industries at a fraction of their value.
Many of those industries were worthless.
delphiandomine
28 Aug 2013
News / Does Poland have a social market economy? [6]
That's because the system generally works - if it's implemented properly. A great example in Poland is with KRUS - how many uneconomic farms are still in business simply because of KRUS?
Catholicism and social democracy do tend to go well with each other.
Because they thought that they would immediately get rich after the change of the system and they didn't. Those complaining tend to be the ones who were quite unproductive in the PRL and who had no interest in suddenly working hard.
If it wasn't for Balcerowicz, we would have - at best - another Argentina.
That's because the system generally works - if it's implemented properly. A great example in Poland is with KRUS - how many uneconomic farms are still in business simply because of KRUS?
Catholicism and social democracy do tend to go well with each other.
Why do so many Poles complain of the hearltessness of hte current economic system.
Because they thought that they would immediately get rich after the change of the system and they didn't. Those complaining tend to be the ones who were quite unproductive in the PRL and who had no interest in suddenly working hard.
If it wasn't for Balcerowicz, we would have - at best - another Argentina.
delphiandomine
28 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Culture Shock.. my Foreign Import's 90 days in US [7]
Are you pregnant?
and is worried about what I eat since it is not good for the baby or me.
Are you pregnant?
delphiandomine
28 Aug 2013
News / Does Poland have a social market economy? [6]
Which it does.
Polonius, are you getting confused? You were decrying the Constitution as being an SLD piece of paper, and now you're saying that it is a cornerstone of Catholicism? Social market economies are a feature of social democratic countries - not Catholic ones.
Poland is supposed to have a social market economy.
Which it does.
That concept, a cornerstone of Catholic social teaching, is an attempt to create a market economy with a human face.
Polonius, are you getting confused? You were decrying the Constitution as being an SLD piece of paper, and now you're saying that it is a cornerstone of Catholicism? Social market economies are a feature of social democratic countries - not Catholic ones.
delphiandomine
28 Aug 2013
Life / What makes a man a Pole? what does it mean to be a Pole? [187]
The Targowica Confederation might want to discuss that with you.
As for not bowing the knee - at least in the Austrian and German sectors, we saw Poles owning businesses, going to universities, etc etc. I believe they enjoyed relative freedom in the Austrian sector too - Lwów and Kraków certainly flourished under Austrian administration.
The Targowica Confederation might want to discuss that with you.
As for not bowing the knee - at least in the Austrian and German sectors, we saw Poles owning businesses, going to universities, etc etc. I believe they enjoyed relative freedom in the Austrian sector too - Lwów and Kraków certainly flourished under Austrian administration.
delphiandomine
28 Aug 2013
Life / What makes a man a Pole? what does it mean to be a Pole? [187]
Poland wasn't occupied, it was annexed. We had this argument before - Poland was not occupied by any reasonable definition of the word. I forget which Congress it was (Vienna?) - but as far as practicalities go, Poland was off the map.
Was Vilnius occupied by Poland after they snatched it from the Lithuanians? Nope.
Poland wasn't occupied, it was annexed. We had this argument before - Poland was not occupied by any reasonable definition of the word. I forget which Congress it was (Vienna?) - but as far as practicalities go, Poland was off the map.
Was Vilnius occupied by Poland after they snatched it from the Lithuanians? Nope.
delphiandomine
27 Aug 2013
Polonia / I'm going to study in Germany (speaking English / money transfers) [24]
What a silly way to do things.
The easiest, most sensible way - open up a EUR account in Poland, withdraw cash from the bank in PLN, change at a kantor into EUR, deposit cash in the account in EUR, transfer in EUR via SEPA to Germany. Voila.
What a silly way to do things.
The easiest, most sensible way - open up a EUR account in Poland, withdraw cash from the bank in PLN, change at a kantor into EUR, deposit cash in the account in EUR, transfer in EUR via SEPA to Germany. Voila.
delphiandomine
27 Aug 2013
News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]
Nope, the deal on the table wasn't good enough to gain PO's support. PO knew that PiS were in a very tough situation - they had won the election, but they only had what, 27% of the vote? They also knew that the alternative for PiS was to form a coalition with Samobroona and LPR - which would never work in reality. For that reason, PiS (if they wanted to form a government that had a chance of working) needed to offer PO an offer they couldn't refuse - which would have almost certainly meant offering PO a majority of the ministries and also giving the most powerful ones to them. PO had absolutely nothing to gain from sharing power with PiS in terms of long term politics.
It would've been interesting had the tables been reversed and PO won both elections. I'm almost certain PO would have lost the 2009 election in this case - Rokita has proved himself to be unstable, and Tusk wouldn't have been a good President at that time.
As I remember, the general attitude before the 2005 election was that both parties were likely to enter some sort of coalition and thus it didn't matter who one voted for, especially if you were centrist. Even the Marcinkiewicz government was working to a certain extent.
Why do you say that they went bonkers? I'd say that they wisely realised that it made much more sense to sit back - they had nothing to gain by working with PiS.
I rely on common sense observations at the time. PiS - by blaming PO - show themselves exactly to be what they are - politically naive.
They did, but PO refused anyway.
Nope, the deal on the table wasn't good enough to gain PO's support. PO knew that PiS were in a very tough situation - they had won the election, but they only had what, 27% of the vote? They also knew that the alternative for PiS was to form a coalition with Samobroona and LPR - which would never work in reality. For that reason, PiS (if they wanted to form a government that had a chance of working) needed to offer PO an offer they couldn't refuse - which would have almost certainly meant offering PO a majority of the ministries and also giving the most powerful ones to them. PO had absolutely nothing to gain from sharing power with PiS in terms of long term politics.
The PO-PiS coalition would have gone ahead if, as expected, there was PM from Kraków (Rokita) and a president from Kashubia (Tusk).
It would've been interesting had the tables been reversed and PO won both elections. I'm almost certain PO would have lost the 2009 election in this case - Rokita has proved himself to be unstable, and Tusk wouldn't have been a good President at that time.
That had been a foregone conclusion all along.
As I remember, the general attitude before the 2005 election was that both parties were likely to enter some sort of coalition and thus it didn't matter who one voted for, especially if you were centrist. Even the Marcinkiewicz government was working to a certain extent.
But a double defeat threw the Platformers into shock. PO lost their marbles and went bonkers.
Why do you say that they went bonkers? I'd say that they wisely realised that it made much more sense to sit back - they had nothing to gain by working with PiS.
Maybe you weren't in Poand at the time so you have to rely on hearsay rather than first-hand experience.
I rely on common sense observations at the time. PiS - by blaming PO - show themselves exactly to be what they are - politically naive.
delphiandomine
27 Aug 2013
History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]
Didn't Lech Kaczynski actually have excellent relations with Jewish people and Israel?
While other parties and their leaders, including Presidents of Poland, keep up good Jewish Polish relations:
Didn't Lech Kaczynski actually have excellent relations with Jewish people and Israel?
delphiandomine
27 Aug 2013
News / PO-PiS again neck and neck [248]
Very unlikely. For a start, it would be unheard of in Polish politics - PiS do not have that kind of support from the electorate in general. They would need to capture the entire centre ground to achieve such a result - and the centre simply is not drawn to PiS. Only a fool would say that they don't have 30% of the vote in their pocket - but they are missing that crucial centre ground that determines elections. For that reason, they're not going to get 45% - they've already dropped from 42% to 33% in the space of a couple of weeks.
Not likely. PO know PiS too well - they know that they have an internal tendency of making an utter mess of things. All they'd have to do is sit back and wait for the next election - exactly as they did in 2005.
Why are you blaming PO for that? They were under no obligation - as I've said thousands of times - to enter a coalition with PiS. It served PO well to refuse to join any coalition - they watched as the centrist voters fled PiS and reaped the benefits of not being associated with them.
There was no reason for PiS to go into coalition with them. They could have offered PO a deal they couldn't refuse.
Which worked a treat. PiS had no idea how to counter it - and they even wrote their own headlines by getting involved in one murky affair after another.
Which led PO to a massive landslide victory in 2007. Politics, Polonius - this is how it works. Anyway, PiS did a fantastic job of burying themselves then.
It's been going on for over 30 years, it's not going to end anytime soon. Until the "Solidarność" generation retires or dies, nothing will change.
By 2015 PO will be down around 15% like SLD and PiS will be up around 45% or better.
Very unlikely. For a start, it would be unheard of in Polish politics - PiS do not have that kind of support from the electorate in general. They would need to capture the entire centre ground to achieve such a result - and the centre simply is not drawn to PiS. Only a fool would say that they don't have 30% of the vote in their pocket - but they are missing that crucial centre ground that determines elections. For that reason, they're not going to get 45% - they've already dropped from 42% to 33% in the space of a couple of weeks.
An enfeebled PO might join PiS as a junior coalition partner.
Not likely. PO know PiS too well - they know that they have an internal tendency of making an utter mess of things. All they'd have to do is sit back and wait for the next election - exactly as they did in 2005.
But the 2005 election shock suffered by PO made them bitter and vindictive and incapable of any meaningful
cooperation.
cooperation.
Why are you blaming PO for that? They were under no obligation - as I've said thousands of times - to enter a coalition with PiS. It served PO well to refuse to join any coalition - they watched as the centrist voters fled PiS and reaped the benefits of not being associated with them.
Hence the exotic PiS-LRP-Samoobrona coaliton -- a loveless marirage of convenience.
There was no reason for PiS to go into coalition with them. They could have offered PO a deal they couldn't refuse.
And then there was PO's all-out anti-PiS campaign.
Which worked a treat. PiS had no idea how to counter it - and they even wrote their own headlines by getting involved in one murky affair after another.
Like schoolboys, the Platformers wanted to put down and score points agaisnt PiS. If PiS said water is wet, PO would counter that it is dry, etc, etc. ad nauseum.
Which led PO to a massive landslide victory in 2007. Politics, Polonius - this is how it works. Anyway, PiS did a fantastic job of burying themselves then.
How long will they continue waging the Polish-Polish war? Probably it won't end until Tusk and Kaczyński bow out.
It's been going on for over 30 years, it's not going to end anytime soon. Until the "Solidarność" generation retires or dies, nothing will change.
delphiandomine
27 Aug 2013
Work / No English Speaking Jobs in Poland...At All? [34]
What kind of well paid jobs do you think exist in Warsaw for those without experience and with a 'soft' degree and only one language that isn't even the native language of the country?
I will be returning to Poland soon and need to find work. I realize the pay for most jobs isn't great, but has anyone got an idea of where to start in terms of finding an English speaking job in Warsaw. I will teach, but really I'm looking for something more well paid. I have a degree in English and New Media. Thanks.
What kind of well paid jobs do you think exist in Warsaw for those without experience and with a 'soft' degree and only one language that isn't even the native language of the country?
delphiandomine
26 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Advice on child support (Irish with my Polish husband) [106]
And this is why I see no reason to be sympathetic towards him. He's left his child behind, he rubbed his new wife in his ex's face, he can't even be bothered to pay a trivial amount by Western standards - the guy is clearly not innocent here.
The OP is guilty of naivety, nothing else.
and only the two Poles know the real story.
And this is why I see no reason to be sympathetic towards him. He's left his child behind, he rubbed his new wife in his ex's face, he can't even be bothered to pay a trivial amount by Western standards - the guy is clearly not innocent here.
The OP is guilty of naivety, nothing else.
delphiandomine
26 Aug 2013
Work / How is the Warsaw job opportunities for international students? [43]
Not going to happen, unless you want to sell kebabs.
Hi guys, what if a foreign student studies computer science and knows Russian,English and German and a normal knowledge in IT field mainly in programming. what are the chances of finding a part time job in big cities during the studies related to IT?
Not going to happen, unless you want to sell kebabs.
delphiandomine
25 Aug 2013
Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]
I have some thoughts on this matter.
We know that during Communism, plenty of people went to Church simply because it was outside the all-controlling state structures. It stands to reason that many of them wouldn't take Communion - they might not have been particularly observant, but the Church gave them a place to be themselves. Ignoring the fact that the Church was riddled with collaborators, it still offered a chance to oppose the regime.
Flash forward to today, where there's no need to go there to oppose - you can oppose on the internet, on the streets, anywhere you want. Combine that with 24 years of some very abusive behaviour by the Church at times - and it's obvious that participation rates are falling. But the ones that remain are more faithful (which is obvious) - hence the rate of taking Communion has gone up correspondingly. It may also be that people are taking the rituals less seriously - and that people don't feel the need to confess before going to Communion.
It's a shame that we don't have more detailed data - I'd love to know the participation of people aged 18-25 now as opposed to then.
Anyway, back to the topic, do you have any thoughts why there are so many fewer of 'the faithful' but the faithful which there are seem to be becoming much more 'faithful'?
I have some thoughts on this matter.
We know that during Communism, plenty of people went to Church simply because it was outside the all-controlling state structures. It stands to reason that many of them wouldn't take Communion - they might not have been particularly observant, but the Church gave them a place to be themselves. Ignoring the fact that the Church was riddled with collaborators, it still offered a chance to oppose the regime.
Flash forward to today, where there's no need to go there to oppose - you can oppose on the internet, on the streets, anywhere you want. Combine that with 24 years of some very abusive behaviour by the Church at times - and it's obvious that participation rates are falling. But the ones that remain are more faithful (which is obvious) - hence the rate of taking Communion has gone up correspondingly. It may also be that people are taking the rituals less seriously - and that people don't feel the need to confess before going to Communion.
It's a shame that we don't have more detailed data - I'd love to know the participation of people aged 18-25 now as opposed to then.
delphiandomine
25 Aug 2013
Travel / What's worth seeing in Poznań? [17]
I spent a whole morning there today taking pictures, it's a wonderful place. I'd recommend going there in the morning to get the best of it.
No-one has mentioned Cytadel Park and the cemeteries yet
I spent a whole morning there today taking pictures, it's a wonderful place. I'd recommend going there in the morning to get the best of it.
delphiandomine
25 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / UK Polonia protesting v German TV series [65]
Remember, the same ones who shout about this are the same ones who have the disgrace to whistle and jeer in front of those real AK veterans.
They don't care about the AK in the slightest, they only care about their own agenda. If they respected the AK so much, they would be the first to stop those disgraceful idiots every year at the Warsaw Uprising commemoration. Could it be that - shock - they're politically motivated?
Remember, the same ones who shout about this are the same ones who have the disgrace to whistle and jeer in front of those real AK veterans.
They don't care about the AK in the slightest, they only care about their own agenda. If they respected the AK so much, they would be the first to stop those disgraceful idiots every year at the Warsaw Uprising commemoration. Could it be that - shock - they're politically motivated?
delphiandomine
25 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / UK Polonia protesting v German TV series [65]
Except they aren't. I don't recall Gazeta Wyborcza using cheap political slogans in the way that Trybuna Ludu did - and the way that Gazeta Polska et al use today. Given the amount of Communist propaganda that you're prone to spouting on here, one can only assume that you hate Gazeta Wyborcza for a reason.
I know you struggle with the concept of forgiveness and reconciliation, but living in the past doesn't help anyone. Gazeta Wyborcza, along with her readers, have no time for living in the past and confronting ghosts. Their world is now - today.
Still making veiled comments, Trybuna Ludu style, about Jews?
I suspect they supported him for an altogether simpler reason - he was an intellectual who didn't attempt to play the populist card of promising everyone everything. Gazeta Wyborcza readers tend to have little time for socialist economics, and I suspect they knew fine well that Walesa as President with the power that the office held (at the time) was not a good idea. There's a good reason why the 1997 Constitution stripped the President of much of their executive power - Walesa's five years of meddling was more than enough for anyone.
For what it's worth, the right wing obsession with Gazeta Wyborcza is frankly one of the funniest things in Polish politics. Perhaps it stems from jealousy that their own media is bought/consumed by hardly anyone.
Except they're much closer to red than to black, in fact the redness remains there subcutaneously, concelaed only by a thin veneer of sloganeering and window dressing.
Except they aren't. I don't recall Gazeta Wyborcza using cheap political slogans in the way that Trybuna Ludu did - and the way that Gazeta Polska et al use today. Given the amount of Communist propaganda that you're prone to spouting on here, one can only assume that you hate Gazeta Wyborcza for a reason.
In America that type are called pinkos, soft on commies.
I know you struggle with the concept of forgiveness and reconciliation, but living in the past doesn't help anyone. Gazeta Wyborcza, along with her readers, have no time for living in the past and confronting ghosts. Their world is now - today.
Quite a few of them represented a certain ethnic group.
Still making veiled comments, Trybuna Ludu style, about Jews?
BTW ever wonder why the anti-Catholic KOR-ite crowd supported 'Catholic' journalist Mazoweicki for president? Because he was a Catho-leftist, meaning someone working to undermine the Polish Epicopate, a renegade and turncoat playing intot he hands of the red regime,
I suspect they supported him for an altogether simpler reason - he was an intellectual who didn't attempt to play the populist card of promising everyone everything. Gazeta Wyborcza readers tend to have little time for socialist economics, and I suspect they knew fine well that Walesa as President with the power that the office held (at the time) was not a good idea. There's a good reason why the 1997 Constitution stripped the President of much of their executive power - Walesa's five years of meddling was more than enough for anyone.
For what it's worth, the right wing obsession with Gazeta Wyborcza is frankly one of the funniest things in Polish politics. Perhaps it stems from jealousy that their own media is bought/consumed by hardly anyone.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Polish married to a Dominican and want to Return to Europe. [13]
The UK doesn't really obey EU law in this respect. For all the complaining by the right wing media, the truth is that the UK has somewhat ignored EU law.
They may try with their own policies, but the EU has shown little patience for member states that do not allow family members to automatically reside with their EU family member. The UK has somehow escaped much of the attention from Brussels in this respect, but this could be because the UK is outside Schengen and thus the EU doesn't care that much.
The Spanish were notorious for not implementing Directive 2004/38 properly - to the point where the EU was telling people to call them directly from passport control so they could intervene.
I'm sorry that your UK-centric viewpoint stops you from understanding the freedom of movement legislation and interpretations.
At the end of the day, the facts remain the same - her husband is entitled to join her in any EU state of their choosing. How this works in practice can differ, but he still has the right to live and work in the same state as her. In their case - Spain - it will be a simple matter of applying for a visa that must be granted within 15 days.
but I do have to know and implement the governments current policies on immigration and visa issues-does that give you a clue as to my actual job.
The UK doesn't really obey EU law in this respect. For all the complaining by the right wing media, the truth is that the UK has somewhat ignored EU law.
Each member state has its own policies they are not EU wide when it concerns someone not currently holding or likely to have an EU members passport.
They may try with their own policies, but the EU has shown little patience for member states that do not allow family members to automatically reside with their EU family member. The UK has somehow escaped much of the attention from Brussels in this respect, but this could be because the UK is outside Schengen and thus the EU doesn't care that much.
The Spanish were notorious for not implementing Directive 2004/38 properly - to the point where the EU was telling people to call them directly from passport control so they could intervene.
If I have an opinion on a subject I will reply and make it known its my opinion. I will not state it as a fact unless that is so...............how about you try it sometime.
I'm sorry that your UK-centric viewpoint stops you from understanding the freedom of movement legislation and interpretations.
At the end of the day, the facts remain the same - her husband is entitled to join her in any EU state of their choosing. How this works in practice can differ, but he still has the right to live and work in the same state as her. In their case - Spain - it will be a simple matter of applying for a visa that must be granted within 15 days.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / UK Polonia protesting v German TV series [65]
Of course, some still repeat the opinions first published in Trybuna Ludu. It's strange how people today draw attention to the things that the Party wanted them to pay attention to, all these years later.
What was pro-Soldarność in late 89, really? The Sejm/Senat version of Solidarność (I forget the name of the party there...) was falling apart in endless disputes - it's hard to say that at the time, anyone was right or wrong. Walesa himself started to behave quite badly once he realised that the country was moving on without him.
Remember, Macierewicz was in the KOR. Why are you attacking that organisation so much when they did plenty to help Solidarność? As for "anti-Catholic" - as many people have observed - they didn't get rid of Red to replace it with Black.
What's interesting is that you seem to be willing to completely ignore the reality of the situation in order to portray Michnik in a bad light. I notice that not once have you mentioned that Walesa withdrew the right to use the Solidarność banner for one simple reason - the paper had supported Mazowiecki rather than Walesa.
Trybuna Ludu was read by foriegn correpsondents only to know the official position on things but was not the paper of choice. It was extremely dull, cut and dried officialese. Życie Warszawy, Sztandar Młodych and Słowo Powszechne plus the lighter Express Wieczorny were far more interesting.
Of course, some still repeat the opinions first published in Trybuna Ludu. It's strange how people today draw attention to the things that the Party wanted them to pay attention to, all these years later.
Papers are supposed to make money but Michnik was not permitted to change the paper's pro-Soldiarność line and reorient it in a KOR-ite and anti-Cathoilic direction.
What was pro-Soldarność in late 89, really? The Sejm/Senat version of Solidarność (I forget the name of the party there...) was falling apart in endless disputes - it's hard to say that at the time, anyone was right or wrong. Walesa himself started to behave quite badly once he realised that the country was moving on without him.
Remember, Macierewicz was in the KOR. Why are you attacking that organisation so much when they did plenty to help Solidarność? As for "anti-Catholic" - as many people have observed - they didn't get rid of Red to replace it with Black.
He simply took advanatage of the chaos and confusion of early RP III to create his own faits accomplis and turned it into a pirvate corporation making money for his clique (Agora).
What's interesting is that you seem to be willing to completely ignore the reality of the situation in order to portray Michnik in a bad light. I notice that not once have you mentioned that Walesa withdrew the right to use the Solidarność banner for one simple reason - the paper had supported Mazowiecki rather than Walesa.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / UK Polonia protesting v German TV series [65]
Yes, quite so. The media in Poland fascinates me.
That was the reality of Poland in 1989-1990. Gazeta Wyborcza could no longer be the voice of the Solidarność opposition, particularly as Solidarność had entered the Government instead. What was known as Solidarność in the Sejm rapidly broke up - and Gazeta Wyborcza took their own path in light of this. No big deal.
Remember, Macierewicz was a member of the KOR. Anyway, you do realise that the purpose of newspapers is to operate commercially?
At the time, he was falling out with much of Solidarność as it was. As I recall, at least part of the problem he had with them is that they were in the Mazowiecki camp - who was threatening Walesa's popularity.
That's what the people wanted, wasn't it? They wanted a free market...
Gazeta Wyborcza is hilariously nationalist at times, but perhaps you can't see this because you're blinded with hatred towards a newspaper that helped to end the previous system.
Choosing to present all the facts rather than selectively quoting (like Gazeta Polska and other rags) does not make a newspaper anti-Polish, rather it strengthens Poland. But then again, I guess those who grew up on a steady diet of Trybuna Ludu have problems with differentiating facts from fiction.
Have you ever studied the history of GW?
Yes, quite so. The media in Poland fascinates me.
They were assigned to operate GW as the voice of the Solidarność oppositon but soon turned it into a comercial corproation.
That was the reality of Poland in 1989-1990. Gazeta Wyborcza could no longer be the voice of the Solidarność opposition, particularly as Solidarność had entered the Government instead. What was known as Solidarność in the Sejm rapidly broke up - and Gazeta Wyborcza took their own path in light of this. No big deal.
They got in on the ground floor, cornered the market and hijacked the newspaper, harnessing it to their KOR-ite agenda.
Remember, Macierewicz was a member of the KOR. Anyway, you do realise that the purpose of newspapers is to operate commercially?
Wałęsa banned them using the Solidarity emblem.
At the time, he was falling out with much of Solidarność as it was. As I recall, at least part of the problem he had with them is that they were in the Mazowiecki camp - who was threatening Walesa's popularity.
That group is known for their shrewdness, craftiness, cleverness or, if you prefer, business acumen.
That's what the people wanted, wasn't it? They wanted a free market...
But the leftist-libertine ideological agenda can hardly be called pro-Polish.
Gazeta Wyborcza is hilariously nationalist at times, but perhaps you can't see this because you're blinded with hatred towards a newspaper that helped to end the previous system.
The examples provided clearly illustrate that fact.
Choosing to present all the facts rather than selectively quoting (like Gazeta Polska and other rags) does not make a newspaper anti-Polish, rather it strengthens Poland. But then again, I guess those who grew up on a steady diet of Trybuna Ludu have problems with differentiating facts from fiction.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Polish married to a Dominican and want to Return to Europe. [13]
Excuse me?
Perhaps you rely on the Daily Mail for your "facts" about the EU, but I prefer to rely on EU law.
Excuse me?
Perhaps you rely on the Daily Mail for your "facts" about the EU, but I prefer to rely on EU law.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / UK Polonia protesting v German TV series [65]
If Gazeta Wyborcza was "Polonophobic", why does it have such a large circulation and a hugely popular website?
Let's be honest here Polonius - you hate the newspaper because of what it stands for.
Wrong. There is no more and no less than in most European countries. In fact, much of what you read on PF is actually written by Americans.
They all seem to identify with the notoriously Polonophobic GW daily.
If Gazeta Wyborcza was "Polonophobic", why does it have such a large circulation and a hugely popular website?
Let's be honest here Polonius - you hate the newspaper because of what it stands for.
I wouldn't say fair share. I think there is more people in Poland per capita than in any other European nation who ***** and moan about everything that's supposedly "anti-Polish."
Wrong. There is no more and no less than in most European countries. In fact, much of what you read on PF is actually written by Americans.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Advice on child support (Irish with my Polish husband) [106]
Swimming is hardly a luxury. My local swimming pool costs 6zl for children and 9zl for adults - not exactly an expensive luxury. All the schools nearby have swimming lessons weekly too, and this isn't a wealthy area as such.
Swimming is hardly a luxury. My local swimming pool costs 6zl for children and 9zl for adults - not exactly an expensive luxury. All the schools nearby have swimming lessons weekly too, and this isn't a wealthy area as such.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Polish married to a Dominican and want to Return to Europe. [13]
There's no need to speak to an immigration lawyer. The process is simple - he has to apply for a visa on the grounds of being a family member of an EU citizen.
Wrong. Family members of EU citizens have exactly the same rights.
There's nothing complicated about it. The family member of an EU citizen has the same right as an EU citizen to reside and work in the European Union.
You need to speak with a reputable immigration lawyer, this will cost a reasonable amount of money.
There's no need to speak to an immigration lawyer. The process is simple - he has to apply for a visa on the grounds of being a family member of an EU citizen.
Your partner/husband does not have the same rights as yourself no matter what your marital status is.
Wrong. Family members of EU citizens have exactly the same rights.
This is a complicated issue and with the bare facts you have posted is the best answer available from me.
There's nothing complicated about it. The family member of an EU citizen has the same right as an EU citizen to reside and work in the European Union.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Polish married to a Dominican and want to Return to Europe. [13]
Basically just that - you go to the Spanish Embassy and apply for a visa for him on the basis of moving there as a family member of an EU citizen.
There's no obligation to reside in Poland for any time whatsoever.
Hypothetically speaking, lets say we decide we like Spain. We get married. I have my Polish passport in order. He has his Dominican passport in order. What do we do? Do we go to the Spanish Embassy requesting documents for his travel, or would you think I go to the Polish Embassy?
Basically just that - you go to the Spanish Embassy and apply for a visa for him on the basis of moving there as a family member of an EU citizen.
There's no obligation to reside in Poland for any time whatsoever.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Advice on child support (Irish with my Polish husband) [106]
Absolutely, but if he's in such a difficult position (not much work for either of them in Limerick, no hope of getting anything extra) - then wouldn't it be better to make sure that he's got money coming in?
The man is responsible for 4 kids - he's got to get off his arse and do something about it.
Absolutely, but if he's in such a difficult position (not much work for either of them in Limerick, no hope of getting anything extra) - then wouldn't it be better to make sure that he's got money coming in?
The man is responsible for 4 kids - he's got to get off his arse and do something about it.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
USA, Canada / Polish married to a Dominican and want to Return to Europe. [13]
Depends. You need to get Polish citizenship confirmed and a passport before you can consider any move.
In general, if you obtain a Polish passport, you can move to any EU country with your husband.
Will this be possible?
Depends. You need to get Polish citizenship confirmed and a passport before you can consider any move.
In general, if you obtain a Polish passport, you can move to any EU country with your husband.
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / Advice on child support (Irish with my Polish husband) [106]
Not really - just plenty of friends gathered along the way. I've lived in three completely different places, so a wide social circle is somewhat normal :)
Yes, of course he is - but the point is that he's doing what he has to do to survive. If he can't find enough work in Limerick, then he has to go to where the work is - he can't sit there in front of the TV complaining about how he can't afford to pay child support if he can't even be bothered to find the work in the first place. Warszawski put it best - he has a village attitude, and with it, he's bringing the village to Ireland.
Is it really unrealistic for her to get 15% of his income, bearing in mind that the figure that the UK uses is exactly that?
Bear in mind that he doesn't have to pay for any of the child care costs/etc.
Do you think that a shop in a village would really be that profitable? I've never seen a nice shop in a village yet - and certainly not one that could be called incredibly profitable.
Remember, she was humiliated on several occasions by the husband, and the husband cut off the child's money because he was angry at the child. Can you really blame her for going for blood in these circumstances?
You seem to have a lot of mysterious "friends". And this one - is he single and childless by any chance?
Not really - just plenty of friends gathered along the way. I've lived in three completely different places, so a wide social circle is somewhat normal :)
Yes, of course he is - but the point is that he's doing what he has to do to survive. If he can't find enough work in Limerick, then he has to go to where the work is - he can't sit there in front of the TV complaining about how he can't afford to pay child support if he can't even be bothered to find the work in the first place. Warszawski put it best - he has a village attitude, and with it, he's bringing the village to Ireland.
If the ex-wife in Poland is so worried about her child's welfare, she could also do extra work or move out of her parents' house and go to the big city yada yada yada.
Is it really unrealistic for her to get 15% of his income, bearing in mind that the figure that the UK uses is exactly that?
Bear in mind that he doesn't have to pay for any of the child care costs/etc.
What I suspect though is that she is sitting pretty, no bills or rent to pay, free childcare (courtesy of grandpa and grandma / other relatives) plus she works in the family-owned shop. So I doubt the family is of the poorest.
Do you think that a shop in a village would really be that profitable? I've never seen a nice shop in a village yet - and certainly not one that could be called incredibly profitable.
I am sorry, but just sitting on your backside and harassing your ex for money while cutting off contact (in disregard of a valid court ruling mind you) and setting the child against the father is not the proper way to go about things. We have not a lot of details to go on, but even from what we know it is obvious that the father in Ireland is struggling a lot more (for whatever reasons) than the mother in PL.
Remember, she was humiliated on several occasions by the husband, and the husband cut off the child's money because he was angry at the child. Can you really blame her for going for blood in these circumstances?
delphiandomine
24 Aug 2013
UK, Ireland / UK Polonia protesting v German TV series [65]
These things do generally go hand in hand. The most "patriotic" the person, the less likely they are to admit history.
As for the topic, does anybody know if the Welshman who wrote the initial email denies that some AK were virulently (and in some cases violently) anti-semitic?
These things do generally go hand in hand. The most "patriotic" the person, the less likely they are to admit history.