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Decoded talks inside Poland's president's plane are released in Internet [337]
I didn't know an engine had a head and elbows and could put his hand on the back of his neck. It seemed like you saw what you wanted to see. And he wasn't in the cockpit.
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That's just your propagandist opinion. But if these "cranks" supported your version, then you would be saying how smart and honest they are etc.
So you think the notion of the Tusk government of wanting Raproachment with Russia doesn't play any role in dismissing tough questions about this crash?
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The only thing you are relying on is your agenda of Russia is perfect and ALL the fault is with the Polish side.
That's such a callous thing to say. Its hard to believe you're even Polish for saying these things. Which I have doubts about.
We still don't know for sure that this Russian tower warned them. You keep going by what Russia and the Russian transcript said. Even your Polish link YOU provided said that the words the Russian tower guy used could have been easily misconstrued to mean different things.
Also when you read the Russian transcript of what the Polish pilot and crew said, it seemed like they spoke in BROKEN Polish. I didn't know these educated guys spoke their own language so poorly.
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Dude you're pro-Russia if not Russian yourself. Why are you bending over backwards and tripping all over yourself to defend the politically correct Russian version of events? You are so dogmatic about this issue. If I was as dogmatic as you in my questioning of Russia I could even come up with even stronger opinions against the "pilot error" explanation. But you want allow even ONE IOTA of criticism or questioning of the politically correct explanation and can't see the big picture here. Any time ANYTHING is presented to counter the "pilot error" explanation you jump all over the sources and start making major reaches to discredit them.
The "pilot error" explanation was the explanation give of the crash within HOURS of the plane crash. It was what the Russians kept repeating over and over and over to get into the world media to make them blameless.
Now many Poles in Poland thought it was very odd for the Russians to say this with such certainty when the explanations of these plane crashes take weeks if not months to determine. There were Poles who felt uncomfortable about this. Now if you're going to tell me that you are in Poland and that the Poles had no problem with this hasty "pilot error" explanation from Russia then you are definitely a fraudulent Pole.
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Well of course! Any kind of information that goes against your Kremlin agenda "COULD easily been a complete fabrication" But if it supported your agenda then the source would have been "reliable" according to you.
So Russian news outlets are going to criticize their own country? You questioned the Russian news sources I used to show that Kaczyinski didn't totally trust the Russian authorities investigating this crash. You steadfastly denied these sources and what Kaczyinski said, but then later on changed your mind. So maybe these sources are actually reliable afterall?
You say the "Polish State" approved the Russian transcript? Really? Who exactly? You mean that same "thickheaded" Polish state you talked about? You know. Like you say "those Poles can be thickheaded". Maybe it was the "thickheaded Polish statesmen who did that"?
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Also haven't you figured out by now that most of the Polish reporting was taken by what the Russians were saying? You think these Poles working with the Russians aren't afraid? They see what happens to people who the Kremlin doesn't like LOL Like in Ukraine, Georgia, the Russian reporters in Moscow, in England, in the Polish plane etc.
Well I did make those comments with an LOL if you recall. So I only half meant them. But you would have to be naive to think there is no pressure on the Tusk government to be reluctant to ask too many tough questions on this crash. You don't think so? Most likely the whole Raproachment thing with Russia is weighing on his mind. You deny this?
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Its interesting how you seem SO familiar with kavkaz. Most Poles couldn't care a less about Kavkaz or whatever you call them. But most nationalist Russians KNOW about kakvaz. HMMMMMMMM
What guy being killed in Ukraine? Most Poles don't know anything about that Kavkaz website. But for some reason YOU do. So do most nationalist Russians. Surprise surprise LOL
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Yes yes it always the Polish sides' fault and with all the information coming out on this tragedy for some reason the Russians are as clean as can be. There have been questions of the Russians who operated the airport at issue and when it came out that some of the Russians (that we know of) at the airport looted the dead Poles on the plane, that means nothing to you. Nope Russia is 100% perfect blameless on this whole issue. No Russian thickheads according to you not even the Russians who looted the dead Poles. That didn't even raise an eyebrow with you. That's very strange for somebody who is Polish.
If you think I am going to defend Polish criminality you are crazy. I have already condemned Polish criminals on several occasions. And for things worse then stealing from dead bodies. But if you makes you feel better, naturally I condemn the Polish criminality that you refer to here with criminal Poles looting this Halina.
Yes we all know every nation has their criminals.
But you would think the Russians KNOWING the extreme sensitivity and international implications of this plane crash, at the very least, would have their most HONEST people providing security to this Polish crash site. But that's just fine with you. Why when you first heard that, like any regular person, you start looking for bad behavior elsewhere to JUSTIFY Russian bad behavior. And at a Polish crash site NEAR KATYN of all places!!!
I find it very interesting in your conversations, that when their is criticism of Russians, like of those Russian thugs who looted those dead Poles, who RIGHTFULLY deserved criticism, you feel this INSTINCTIVE need to defend them. You basically angrily tell everyone in so many words that people should NOT generalize negatively about Russians because of what some bad Russians do. On other occasions, you keep talking about how people shouldn't generalize negative things about the Russians and their part in the Soviet Union (even though the Soviet Union was controlled from MOSCOW). OK that's fine. I can respect your opinion that people shouldn't generalize negative things about the Russians. Fair enough.
But what I find very interesting is how you (an alleged Pole) do the OPPOSITE with Polish people. You throw around negative generalizations about Poles all the time. You make comments about Poles like "you know how thickheaded those Poles are" NOW you make another generalization by saying "HECK EVEN KILLING PEOPLE FOR THEIR BODY ORGANS IS NOTHING NEW TO POLES" Really Poles are doing this frequently??? Would you say that about the RUSSIANS?????
Truth be told, in the last hundred years, Russians have killed many more people (including their own) then Poles ever have.
I find it interesting how, even outside this topic, your main concern is promoting/defending Russia. You have barely even said anything positive about Poles in most of your conversations. And when you do talk about Poles you disparage them.
No you have no agenda here in this forum. LOL
