Life / Your Polish friends - why do you regard them as such? [41]

I assume you want stories about my Polish friends in California Seanus. Well one of my friends at University, whose mother is from Poland, came from the San Jose area, which has a large Polish population, he has long since moved back up there, but when he was here he used to do a funny character, named "Skully" or something, in which he would get his mouth really dry so that he could stick his lips up above and below his teeth and then he would bite a lit cigarette and try to inhale it, which was of course impossible, but hilarious. There is another Polish-American I know from the frisbee golf course who I wouldn't call a friend as he is a bit of a pill, but I saw him in a nightclub once and he told the girls I was hitting on that I am an "Olympic athlete" which I appreciated because I did end up banging one of them and perhaps his testament to my athletic prowess helped in that endeavor. As for Poles from Poland I recently met one through a mutual friend and he had an immense amout of cocaine. Our mutual friend, who is of Mexican and Finnish ancestry, told the Pole that I am a Polish-American and the Pole looked at me and said "oh really? let's do some lines." He proceeded to pour out, and chop up, two gargantuan lines of cocaine, but one of them was just ridiculously huge, and then, handing me the straw, he looked my in the eye and said "Pick one." I took up the straw and I inhaled that ridiculously huge line in one gasp much to the amazement of the other people watching, some of whom expected me to be felled by a heart attack. The Pole then smiled at me and said "You are truly Polish."

News / Russia says: WE'LL NUKE POLAND [150]

I agree with you Crow about Slavic commonalities and I think a federation of Slavija would be great. It would make these Western European jerks that are always acting in a patronizing manner towards Poles, and other Slavs, shut their stupid mouths because Slavija would be a super-power with over 300 million citizens. So too I agree that the Serbs do indeed have Sarmatian ancestry as do other Slavs, but I disagree with your claim that


. The Greeks from which we get the name "Sarmatian" were not mispronouncing "Serb". "Sarmatian", which was originally more like "Sauromatae" in the Greek, means "Lizard-Men" and it derives from the Sarmatian custom of wearing scale-armor thus making them appear saurian to the Greeks who gave them this name.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


It is true that Poles are indeed the largest group of Slavs in the USA and Polish restaurants are rare in the USA and Russian and other Slavic, and Hungarian, restaurants are even rarer. Perhaps it is a legacy of the Cold War in America. As other world cuisines were being introduced into America, Polish restaurants served "enemy cuisine" and the American stereotype of the Eastern Block as a place of shoddy goods and poor food still attaches to the idea of going to eat Polish food. Perhaps another part of the explanation is that Poles in the USA are just not as inclined to becoming restaurateurs as the members of other ethnicities with more prominence in the market. It would be nice if someone could come onto this thread with actual statistics showing how many Polish restaurants have started up and how many succeeded, as it stands now many posters are assuming that there aren't alot of Polish Restaurants in the USA because alot of Polish restaurateurs have tried and failed because of their food. It may well be that there are not alot of Polish restaurants in the USA because there haven't been many that started up in the first place.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

I have also posted a link to a Californian TV personality, satirized in an episode of the Simpsons as "Howel Hueser", visitng Polka restaurant in LA in post #418 of this thread.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Fuzzywickets this thread is about Polish restaurants in the USA not about what Poles in Poland eat on a daily basis. Are you sure that Polish restaurants here serve food that is identicle to the everyday fare of contemporary Poland? If they don't then it makes accomodating your demand for an account of typical Polish staples irrelevant to the thread.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

No more personal attacks.

Genealogy / Are Scandanavians a mix between Polish & Iberian stock? [70]


The Chronicle of Rurik claims that the quarreling Slavs "invited" the Russ to come rule over them. The Russ being Varangians from Sweden. It is the Russians who have progenitors from Sweden not the other way around.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


Good then you are at least one step ahead the peanut gallery. (Althought offering to suspend me today for someting I wrote two days ago, as you did at the top of this page, doesn't attest to your alacrity as a moderator.) The restaurant whose menu I cited is very successful and so perhaps the answer to this thread's query is that Polish restaurants in the USA should serve the richer more elaborate dishes from Poland's culinary tradition and thus be successful and forgo offering the bland items that you claim are typical. As for the Polonophobic peanuts I have a prediction for you all. Since Poland's economy is growing you can expect to see a stepped up revival of manor cuisine in Poland herself as more well off Poles decide to get in touch with their nation's rich culinary legacy as we members of Polonia do here in Southern California at Warszawa restaurant.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


When Boletus posted recipes from country inns that continue to prepare the rich dishes of Poland's szlachta or when I posted the menu from Warszawa restaurant in Santa Monica the peanut gallery denied that this food is Polish. Do you do the same Convex?

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


The problem with this thread is that whenever posters have provided recipes or menus which showcase Polish food that isn't bland the Polonophobic peanut gallery claims that these examples are not Polish because they are not "typical". This is very stupid. Earlier in the thread I pointed out that in South Korea today traditional Korean food is experiencing a revival and this food is bland when compared to typical modern spicy Korean food, but no one would deny that the traditional Korean food is Korean too. Whenever the elaborate dishes of Poland's manors and palaces were cited as examples of Polish cuisine the peanut gallery argues that since these recipes are not typical today then they are not Polish. Koreans are allowed to have a culinary heritage that stretches back into the centuries, but Poles are not? This stupid double standard exists because the Polonophobic peanut gallery is on this forum to try to feel better about their little pathetic lives. They may be losers but at least they are from the First World and they can look down on Poland as being part of the Second World, and so Polish cuisine that is not from the drab Soviet era must thereby be disqualified as Polish by them. It is quite frankly pathetic and I pity these fools.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

Seanus, this thread's title and OP posit that there is a social phenomenon in Poland driven by people having "had enough of one another" that may even be driving Poles to emigrate in the large numbers in which they do. I am not in Poland but this seems like a borderline paranoiac theory to me. I shan't offer anymore objections and I leave the thread to those who want to relate their stories about the hate, or mutual disdain, in the air in Poland as gleaned from their shopping excursions there, as well as those who just want to cackle like hens about the merits of various super-markets checkout aisles.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


Let me represent an example of a statement by you that shows your self righteousness


Anyone, from anywhere in the world, can see that this claim, to be one of the least materialistic people in the world, is a statement coming from a sickeningly self righteous person.


No Seanus I can comment regardless of where I have spent my time because this is a public discussion forum and you are not the boss of it. Stop teling people what they can and cannot do and you won't seem so presumptuous and ill-mannered.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


This doesn't answer plgrl's question and it ridiculously assumes that "most of us" have had horrorific jobs. Who is us Delphiandomine?

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News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

Lagos is the birthplace of Afrobeat which is one of the best popular music genres ever. Poles if any Afrobeat bands wish to emigrate to your country I suggest you let them.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


Ha ha Seanus you are indeed patronizing as well as self-righteous.


Pip you called a clerk a "cow" in your post #58. Have you ever stopped to think that it takes one to know one?


^Delphiandomine telling Pip she should've tried to get a pregnant cashier fired after he bragged about getting a bookstore clerk fired in post #57, and he has the nerve to claim in post #61 that Poles are not dignified! What would a petty craven creature like him know about dignity? Absolutely nothing that's what.

UK, Ireland / I need help!! (problems with my Polish coworkers) [41]



Smell my finger.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


Seanus, you claim that this thread is merely observational but its title asks the reader to draw conclusions about Poles' mental attitudes regarding their fellow countrymen based on these observations, and thus this thread is doomed to failure because you cannot know whether, or not, Poles hate one another just by watching them shop. I do have a personal story for you. Yesterday I read this thread's OP about how you, Seanus, exude "positive energy" and that many of the Poles shopping around you are negative "creeps" and I came to the following conclusion: Because of your being an English teacher, Seanus, you want the people you encounter in everyday life to be defferential towards you, as if they were your students, but they are not, and frankly from having read many of your posts here, especially the one were you threatened to "personally" have me banned, you seem like a puffed up easily offended ninny and you are thus you are unworthy of deference. Indeed I am in sunny California, and not in Poland, but that doesn't change the fact that this thread reveals that you, Seanus, have a patronizing attitude towards Poles and I have every right to point this out. As for the other posters that bragged about getting people fired, or complained that people they've encountered in the "service industry" were not nice enough, I would like to remind them that although those people do indeed work in the "service industry" they are not thereby your personal servants. I hope that Poles in the service sector never become the fawning sycophantic slaves that bossy Western douchebags expect them to be.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Ha ha British food! There may only be two Polish restaurants in Southern California, both of which are successful, but there are no British restaurants at all here. Once again the douchey nationalism of this forum's snaggletoothed, pasty faced, British denizens comes to the fore. Their pride has been hurt by the recent riots and now they are lashing out. This should be good for alot of laughs.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


You haven't really answered my question and who are the "we" that'll judge my posts? Would that be you and a commitee of other British expatriates living in Poland who can't stand criticism of their Polonophobic posts?

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Hey Wroclaw if I disagree with your claim regarding British food's superiority will you suspend me again?

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


I didn't say you were lying Seanus. I said that your OP's contrasting your "smiling positive energy" with the negativity of Polish "creeps" is patronizing. The evidence you've given in favor of an affirmative answer to this thread's titular question is that Poles are less than ebulliently cheerful when shopping, but this is superficial evidence which hardly proves that Poles are misanthropic. Perhaps it is your own perkiness that makes the Poles shopping around you sullen because extroverted enthusiasts can have that effect on dignified people.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


You are sounding like the authoritarian Communist here, Delphiandomine. Your attempts to find Communist sympathy in a post about American shopkeepers being free to frown is laughable. Do you have any self-respect?

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

This is a lie based on a false stereotype about America. Many shopkeepers here are dour and no one complains. Hey moderator why the hell did you chop up my previous post? Is Seanus above criticism here? You allow Delphiandomine's bizzarre McCarthyite attack on me to remain in the thread why?

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


Seanus your original post, quoted above, compares Polish shopkeepers unfavorably to Scottish ones in Aberdeen and even refers to them as "creeps", and then in post #40 you wrote:


Did you forget your original post which cites perky Scottish shopkeepers? Poor Seanus despite your smiles and your "putting out good energy" the Polish shopkeepers still aren't cheerful towards you, like proper shopkeepers like back in Aberdeen, and then to add insult to injury, a poster, on this public forum, has the gall to point out that expecting cheerful servility from shopkeepers, just because you smile at them, is patronizing. Are you going to be alright Seanus? You are a force for good and people should smile at you and not criticize your opinions, and if they do:

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

What the hell kind of ***** thread is this? A Scottish-English teacher doesn't think Poles are friendly enough. Are you gonna enlighten Poles regarding value of cheerful customer service Seanus? You are being patronizing. With your attitude you're lucky if Polish shopkeepers don't punch you in the face much less smile at you.

UK, Ireland / Worst of the worst Poles emigrating to Britain? [32]


Ha ha they're just playing a joke that's actually rather funny in my opinion. It's variant is to be seen in a Cheech and Chong movie in which Cheech tells the monolingual Chong that a certain Spanish cuss-word means "friends".

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

I have stated the fact that American Polonia often works in creative fields such as graphic design, the visual arts and philosophy. Delphiandomine qoutes this statement and follows with this hilariously stupid non sequitor:


No, Delphiandomine the creative vocations of American Polonia do not explain Polish emigration and unemployment. Polish emigration and unemployment are explained by Poland having been impoverished by the Second World War and misgoverned for several decades by the Soviet Union. My point is that here in the USA, the land about which this thread is concerned, Polonia is integrated and well-off and so we can pursue our creative proclivities to our hearts' content. Becoming restaurateurs is often the vocation new immigrants to America, but Polish-Americans are, for the most part, too well established here to be drawn into the somewhat grueling task of running restaurants. Thus, the relative lack of Polish restaurants in the USA, far from proving the inferiority of Polish cuisine, results from the fact that most Polish-Americans would rather be doing other things than running restaurants. That being said those Poles and Polonians whose love of our national cuisine has lead them to open Polish restaurants are surely honorable as well and if any Polish restaurateurs happen to be reading this post then please know that I salute you.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


I think it may have been Daniel Defoe. He certainly railed against English pretensions of ethnic and linguistic purity in his poem A True-Born Englishman, in which after listing the diverse ethnicities who'd overan Britain throughout history he rhymed:

[quote From this amphibious ill-born mob began
That vain ill-natured thing, an Englishman.
The customs, surnames, languages, and manners
Of all these nations are their own explainers:
Whose relics are so lasting and so strong,
They ha' left a shibboleth upon our tongue,
By which with easy search you may distinguish
Your Roman-Saxon-Danish-Norman English][/quote]

News / Polish flag was changed by taking the coat of arms? [48]

It must be nice for the workers in the flag factories in China producing little versions of the eagleless Polish flag because if they glue it to the stick upside-down it's not ruined but rather Indonesian.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]


Delphiandomine, you can't tolerate the mentioning of a restaurant in Santa Monica you've never been to... You must be really cranky perhaps you've wet 'em or made a boom boom. As for your certainty regarding my being paid by said restaurant you are also deluded. I actually think the relatively few Polish restaurants in the USA are a good thing for Polonia because running a restaurant can be grueling and mundane and when it comes right down to it most Polish people are above merely alimentary concerns, I myself am no gourmet and I pity people enthralled by their stomachs, we often gravitate towards other creative vocations such as graphic design, the visual arts, and philosophy. Ah Polonia! We live out our lives scattered across the globe with one thing in common our noble Polish spirit which haters are gonna hate and lovers are gonna love!