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FUZZYWICKETS   
23 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

As long as they stay in the US, what's the problem?

One would think, but most of them are criticized by the "real" Poles back in Poland. They all left for greed and sold out and whatever else they say. It's that same "we all go down together" mentality Poles tend to adopt when their friends and family leave Poland for greener pastures.
FUZZYWICKETS   
23 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

I trash them because they talk as if they know what's best for Poland and act like they really care, yet they obviously don't.

It still doesn't justify your sweeping generalizations about millions of people.
FUZZYWICKETS   
23 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

So in other words, instead of coming here and changing things for the better, it's just easier to stay in the US isn't it?

Does that go only for Poles? What about people that leave China? Russia? Greece? Ireland? Vietnam? They're all traitors too, taking the easy route, abandoning their countries, not true patriots?

Your words, when asked, "so every Pole that moved to the USA did it for "greed and desire", and you see nothing wrong with it?" and you said, "what's wrong with wanting more?"

And then I asked, "Does that go for all Poles that left Poland and went elsewhere in Europe like Germany, France, Scandinavia, England, etc.?" and you said, "Of course. They're now learning that it's very hard to make something of themselves back in Poland, as those who stayed are the ones headed to the top."

Yeah.

The funny thing about this is it is sooooo common to see the same pattern repeated by people on this forum over and over. They trash the USA, say that it's not "all that" anymore, yet will in the same breath criticize Polonia for staying in the USA where "it's easier" instead of coming back to Poland and grinding it out with the rest of them. This "we all go down together" attitude is so entertaining, as if all the Poles that left to provide themselves and their families a better life are in the wrong, are traitors, not true Poles. This is why you get posts like Patrycja19.

"one of my great uncles talked about Poland, about the beauty, the hills, the forests, he boasted about it to our family, what he forgot to mention was that our brothers and sisters

would one day tell us we are no longer welcome, that we dont belong. that all the ancestors we have known to fight for polands independence were fought for nothing

because the newer generations would tell us that because we dont live there were nothing...........
I try to not read these threads, and ignore the posts, but sometimes its like, how can people who just recently came from Poland even have the balls

to say you dont belong when they clearly are only going to visit, they will come here to the states, talk crap about those who say they are polish or of polish ancestry

and they are living in another country same as we are.. hypokrite comes to mind.."

good stuff, Patrycja19.
FUZZYWICKETS   
22 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

I've known people who's grandmothers are from Poland, and who go around saying that they're Polish, but when you ask them Historic questions or ask their opinion of a certain topic, all they can give you is a blank stare.

It's worth mentioning that if you were to ask the average American the same questions about America, you'd get the same blank stare.....yet, they're still very very much "American". If anything, being ignorant of your country's history is kinda American.
FUZZYWICKETS   
22 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

You must be mad to think that milions of Poles would turn up to work worst jobs for little money with no legal papers.

Your words, not mine.

Then answering your question I don't see many reasons unless the US start giving away green cards to the arriving Poles then yes,expect couple of milions.

Why?
FUZZYWICKETS   
21 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

Why would they flood the US?

That's what I'm asking, yes.

To work minimum wage job with no health insurance in fear of possibility of deprtation at any moment?

What, like it hasn't been done before? New concept? Don't act like it's this crazy idea that nobody would ever dream of doing.

You can't compare US to UK in that respect.

I'm not. I'm asking a question. Keep your panties on.
FUZZYWICKETS   
21 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

What's wrong with wanting more?

nothing. just fact checking.

I don't think we'll ever see the return of many of the million-plus in the UK, though.

Which brings up another question (although maybe more appropriate in another thread) and that is the VWP issue with the USA and Poland. Do you think, if the doors open, they'll flood into the USA like they did recently with the UK?
FUZZYWICKETS   
21 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

There's nothing wrong with it

Ok. So every Pole that moved to the USA did it for "greed and desire", and you see nothing wrong with it.

Does that go for all Poles that left Poland and went elsewhere in Europe like Germany, France, Scandinavia, England, etc.?
FUZZYWICKETS   
21 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

How do you explain the fact that the vast majority of Polonia will not leave rich America for poor Poland, then?

Oh, well, that's an easy one.

Sorry pal, but the Polonia exist solely because of human greed and desire.

Are you singling out just Poles when you say this or does that go for everyone that leaves their country of origin and goes elsewhere to find a better life?
FUZZYWICKETS   
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

Hardly, he was born in Poland and speaks the language fluently.

according to you, we're all mixed breeds (as you so adamantly put it regarding Poles specifically) so what does his place of birth have to do with it?

this is why i keep asking these questions.
FUZZYWICKETS   
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

Finally, one brave soul.

Mind you, you don't have to convince me. I don't have my own definition. Rather, I'm asking because it hasn't been settled on this thread yet and the back and forth is ridiculous.

You said, "born of at least 1 Polish parent," but what makes their parent Polish? It is repeated over and over, this thread being no exception, that Poland, and all european countries for that matter, are "mongrels" genetically. Poland has changed borders so many times and has had so much mixing from Germany, Ukraine, Lithuania, Russia, ("Jews"), that even claiming that the "parent" is Polish appears to be a challenge.

You mentioned language. OK. It has also been said on here that if you can't speak Polish, you're automatically excluded.

maybe someone else has some more input.
FUZZYWICKETS   
19 Jan 2012
Life / Do Polish Marlboros differ? [21]

Polish Marlboros seem a bit "lighter" than others.

yes, they are.

Is it true that Polish law prohibits the 'light' label on cig packets?

it's the same in the USA now. Marlboro Gold.
FUZZYWICKETS   
17 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

The modern Polish-American is nothing but a mongrel genetically, like all of us.

Hmmmm. So let me see if I am following.....you absolutely CANNOT be truly Polish if you do not speak Polish......yet we are all genetic mongrels so nobody can really say they're Polish by blood because of all the mixing......just trying to put it all together......

So I guess I'm wondering now, are you Scottish?

You speak English, but lots of countries speak English, so that's out.

Does your accent make you Scottish? Scottish and say Irish accents differ, sure, but not by as big of a margin as say the North Dakota-American accent in comparison to the Louisiana-American accent. But if that were true, that you can live in the same country with totally different accents and still be the same ethnicity then the accent couldn't be what makes you Scottish, no? Not to mention, I'm sure the Scottish accent varies from region to region as well as dialect like most countries so that would add even more variation. In fact, it's possible that certain regions of Scotland have dialects/accents that are more similar to Irish accents than say another dialect/accent of another region in Scotland. Let's go on.....

Knowledge of family history/country of origin seems to be getting mentioned a lot too but hell, I know plenty of Americans that don't know a thing about American history, so geeze, that can't have any connection to ethnicity/race either because those people are surely American.

So what are we left with? Bloodline doesn't make you one or the other. Knowledge of one's heritage/family history doesn't. Language doesn't. Accent doesn't. Dialect doesn't either.

So what's left? If knowing the Polish language is the most important criterion, well hell, I had a young girl in one of my younger classes that spoke native Polish yet she had French parents, so where does that criterion leave us now? She surely isn't "Polish" but hell.....we're all "mongrels" anyhow, so what's the difference? There surely can't be a magic minimum percentage of Polish blood you have in mind before you can officially be considered Polish because hell, all that blood is mixed anyhow, no? Us being "mongrels" and all. In actuality, you claim to have a "Polish" wife but because of all this mixing, is it possible that the French girl actually has more "Polish" blood than your wife? Is it possible that the French girl's parents had a Polish grandparent or two mixed in there whilst your wife could have Ukranian, Russian, Lithuanian, Italian, German, maybe even French blood....to the extent that she is actually less "Polish" than that little.....dare I call her "French" girl!? But wait, that would be impossible....there is no such thing as real Polish blood, right?

Good night.
FUZZYWICKETS   
16 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

you clearly don't get America, do you? You are such a bore.

It's utterly amazing how much this guy claims to know about America and it's ethnic groups....when he's never even stepped foot in the damn country.

That goes for a lot of other clowns on this forum.
FUZZYWICKETS   
16 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

It doesn't, rather, it's a case of where Jews are somewhat different to the rest.

I'm honestly embarrassed for you at this point. No need to explain.

isn't knowledge of Hebrew somewhat widespread among the American Jewish community?

No.

African-American especially so - it's like saying "I haven't got a ******* clue as to where I come from, so I'm just going to pretend that I'm from the whole continent even though I really have no idea".

Oh I don't know, maybe because most of their parents were fukcing slaves being raped by slave owners and/or their entire family was torn apart when they were shipped out to America whereas most of them died before they were 40 years old from disease and lack of medical attention, exhaustion, starvation, and whatever other things slaves had to deal with years ago......therefore, they have no way of tracing their ancestry that accurately.....????????........

You need your frigging head examined, pappy.
FUZZYWICKETS   
16 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

I dunno, it would seem to be a pretty integral part.

You said, quite affirmatively, "Can't speak Polish, can't be Polish. Koniec." Not that it's a "pretty integral part" but that it's 100% necessary, "koniec".

You obviously see a difference if Polish/Poland is so cut and dry yet other ethnicities, such as the ones I mentioned, give you hesitation.

So....what makes Polish/Poland different?

Isn't "African American" largely bullshit terminology anyway?

What an absurd question to ask but before I comment, I'd like you to answer the first question first.
FUZZYWICKETS   
16 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]

And to answer your question - no, you can't be. Speaking Polish is integral to the Polish character.

Can you be Jewish without speaking Yiddish/Hebrew?

Can you be African American if you don't speak an African language?
FUZZYWICKETS   
16 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]

and that's the response someone makes when they have nothing to say but are irritated by someone's post that they know to be true.

textbook ironside.
FUZZYWICKETS   
16 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]

Revered?

Hardly.

you can't be serious. name another culture in this world that is emulated, copied, mimicked, more widespread or imitated more than American culture. look no further than Poland.

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

Are there?

yes. there are. Just like McDonald's, Burger King, KFC.......I've personally waited several times on line in Wroclaw for a table at Pizza Hut which, by the way, sucks in Poland.
FUZZYWICKETS   
13 Jan 2012
Genealogy / I'm half Polish American, but I'm very Patriotic about my ancestry [47]

What would you know you are Yank are you not?

It kills me how you continue to make comments about the things I say about Polish people, claiming that I somehow wouldn't know what I'm talking about because I'm American, yet you (a Polish guy) spend most of your time on this forum making comments about the USA. I lived in Poland for 4 years, I think I learned a thing or two about Polish people during my stay. I'm also married to a Pole. No, not a Pol-Am, a "real" Pole that came to the states with me just last year. How long did you live in the USA? What makes you qualified, yet I am not?
FUZZYWICKETS   
12 Jan 2012
Genealogy / I'm half Polish American, but I'm very Patriotic about my ancestry [47]

Poland (and Polish-born people) couldn't care less about people like me anyway - we're just "Angole" to them. It's sad that Poles feel this way, as not all nations consider their descendants like this; but that's the way it is, and I don't lose sleep over it.

You're not truly a Pole unless you live there suffering with the rest of them. That's more or less how it is.

Kinda like the guy that continues rooting for a $hitty sports team because he's waiting for the day they win the championship so he can say, "I've been a fan for years, even when they sucked. I'm a REAL fan."
FUZZYWICKETS   
10 Jan 2012
Language / Give me some reasons to learn Polish [126]

to the kingdom of all Slavic languages (I would think)

which are all equally useless in the USA, especially CA. let's try and stay on topic here.
FUZZYWICKETS   
9 Jan 2012
Life / Who's Leaving Poland? [138]

The quality of life is excellent if you have the money......Hospital and Health services for the rich is not a problem....

who woulda thunk it!