Polonia / Learning Polish in Amsterdam [19]


I don't mean written Dutch, it is the spoken version that sounds silly. I once heard a Dutch Cahtolic priest say Mass and it all sounded like "hoppen de kloppen". 'Twas hard to keep a straight face. Also elderly Dutch sound much different than younger speakers. The younger Dutch to me a least sound more American.

Polonia / Learning Polish in Amsterdam [19]


Just a quick question -- for an English speaker which is easier to learn: German of Dutch? I know Dutch is closer to English but does that make it easier?

BTW to many English spekaers Dutch sounds hilarious in much the same way as Czech sounds to Poles. Do you agree?

News / Foreign investors wiser than Polish businessmen, not turned off by Poland-bashing [6]


Perhaps only an enema could clear up this predilection.


Erroneous title and misspelt surname. It's Kaczyński not Kaczynski. Just think of the little letter "i" you so dislike in your nick.


PZPR, SB and TW types all flock round Schetyna and his
P(estilent) O(rganisation). Ever wonder why?

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


All the real communists including crytpo-communists, former PZPR members, cultural marxists, former SB types and their TW snitches mainly support PO and the "total opposition".

Check out a partial list drawn up by Paweł Kukiz:
dorzeczy.pl/kraj/16370/Lista-PZPR-owcow-i-wspolpracownikow-SB-w-PO-Kukiz-odpowiada-na-akcje-Piotrowicze.html

Po polsku / Polskie Gazety polityczne oparcie [28]

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Marsz Platfusów i KODerastów

Marsz Platfusów i KODerastów

Maszerują opozycjoniści
Psy wieszając na rządzie i już.
EsBe, PO, KOD, post-komuniści
Nie dogadasz się z tym ani rusz.

Nic innego im nie pozostało
Tylko bluzgi i bezeceństwa.
Gdy już wybory się tak przegrało
Tylko złorzeczenie, przekleństwa.

Od miesięcy ponad dziewiętnastu
Raz po raz nam asfalt szlifują.
PO, SB razem z KODerastą
Swoje gorzkie żale skandują.

Nasza Platforma droga, jedyna
Chce na marszu widzieć wielki tłum.
Autokary załatwi Schetyna,
By zrobić wielki harmider, szum.

Programu nie mają ani planu
Rwą się do koryta dawnego.
Dążą tylko do dawnego stanu
Dla nich bogatego, dobrego.

To się ludziom dawno opatrzyło
Tych ulicznych cyrków mają dość.
Od krzyków nic się nie polepszyło
Pogłębiło podział oraz złość!
*******

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


There has long been talk of a two-speed EU, something Poland and others have adamantly opposed. But it could happen nevertheless. It could take the form of a total break into two (maybe more) groupings: Old Europe and New Europe, or the two (or more) might function within a loose General EU framework. Or something no-one can now even envisage could take place instead -- a break up of the EU into individual countries and restoration of their original currencies, an all-out terrorist attack on Europe (e.g. simultaneous mutliple bombings in each of the 27capitals plus London) which would render the EU reform discussion pointless with Europe mobilising for a 21st-centuryworld-wide crusade against Militant Islam or....????

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


That is definitely a possibility as is an alter-union of the interested countries left out of that proejct. Poland could well become the leader or at least one of the top players in that other grouping that might also incldue Spain, Portugal and Italy.

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


Every day, at times every hour often produces a new twist on the EU crisis.
MEPs representing both PiS and PO are opposed to a plan to prepare a separate budget for the 19 eurzone countries. How that ultimately pans out may seriously impact the EU's future.

thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/305366,Polish-MEPs-oppose-separate-Eurozone-budget

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


But, as you know, I left my options open by saying anything at this point is possible. So your hypotheses are every bit as valid as any other until history proves them right or wrong. Besides advocating anti-Polish sanctions, Macron also lumped Poland's outstanding statesman and supreme political strategist Kaczyński with international archvillain Putin.

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


The luxuries in the prison system is what should be done away with. first and foremost. Work-out gyms, hobby circles, comfy surroundings, etc. are often better than where the slum-dwellers came from. Rather than building more pricey, fancy-shmancy prisons, simple wooden, bunk-bed barracks (like those nailed together across the rural US during WW2) could be built by the inmates themselves and the food limited to what they themselves raise on the prison farm.

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


Making predictions can be an interesting pastime, but all too often the predicter is blinded by what is and presumes the future will merely be a projection of what seems likely at present. But in their wildest dreams no-one had imagined a Serbian fanatic killing an Austrianarchduke would unleash the bloodiest conflagration in the annals of mankind. No-one could possibly have preidcetd that so intelligent and gifted a nation could have fallen under the sway of a madman and accepted the Holocaust.

As for Poland and the possible collapse of the EU, it is in Poland's interest to get at least the currently projected tranche of assistance. Hopefully the EU will not collapse before then. The EU need not entirely collapse, but may break up into groups of states. The Višehrad 4 plus Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia and the Baltic States might constitute one such group. A lot depends on whether the EU get reformed and in what direction. At this juncture it appears that pressure from the community's left-leaning leadership to federalise will most likely accelrerate disintegration. The concept of a volunatry confederation of sovereign states is more country-friendly and probably more likely to succeed. But maybe a mroe fełlxible approach might bepreferable. States which want Brussels to meddle in their internal affairs and have the last say on most everything might be placed in one group and those that believe national parliaments better reflect the goals and needs of their respective nations would be in another. On many issues of common interest both groups could form coalitions or otherwise cooperate. Myriads of possibilities exist. Until a serious EU-wide reform debate is launched and the resultant treaty is drafted and ratified, most anything is possible. Pożyjemy, zobaczymy!

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


And the same scare tactics were directed against PiS. Even before the election the Schechter Boy was warning Poles against the advent of fascism. The strange thing is that they still haven't sent hom to the looney bin.

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


Some of them quite lunar speculations indeed! If Le Pen won and held a referendum in which as many opposed Frexit as in today's surveys, do you think she would ignore the referendum and withdraw France from the EU? Since leaving the EU by France is highly improbable, why should investors leave Poland? They are there not out of the goodness of their heart but out of pure vcalculation. Poland means a skilled work force at bargain prices, tax breaks and free or low-cost assembly sites.

Summa summarum, as Trump and others have shown, the office shapes the official. not the other way round. Campaign malarkey is one thing, but the actual job of govenrign is quite a different story. The fear-mongering by anti-Le Pen forces is just so much codswallop!

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


He most likely will, if the polls and bookies are any indication. Happily? is another question. If Macron makes it, Poland will be in for years of bashing, intimidation, threats and blackmailing from the unholy trio of a Schultz-like EC head, the Junkman, banker Macron at the Élysée Palace, and TTT in Brussels. (No, the Triple T is not a Texas cattle ranch, it stands for Targowica Traitor Tusk!) Since you root for the Poland-bashing side, you will be happy to see Poland consistently derided, reviled, insutled and demeaned. But inspite of the mangy, barking, snapping and yappimg curs you so admire, you know what? The good-change caravan will move ahead slowly but surely for at least the next two terms.

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


Haven't read into it yet, but caught a glimpse of one Le Pen riposte: "Whoever wins the election, France will be ruled by a woman. It'll either be me or Angela Merkel!"

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


Close to 24% youth unemployment is a catastrophe! What's wrong with those Frogs?!

News / Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland? [512]


Indeed, a model for sexual deviates, multi-culti freaks, arrogant Polanophobic, Cathophobic, anti-American and Islamo-anxious, frog and snail munching Francophiles.

Language / Any good English term for lewactwo and derivatives? [16]


How widely is it used and understood? Obviously the etymology = liberal + retarded.

Language / Any good English term for lewactwo and derivatives? [16]


We agree to disagree. According to me, that should be phrased:
The current immoral and criminal leftist-liberal stance on pre-natal infanticide or unborn baby butchery. Its advocates promote the PC fairy tale that it's a simple procedure no different than a tooth extraction. In other words -- live immorally and scrape out the conseuqences! Disgusting!!!

Language / Any good English term for lewactwo and derivatives? [16]


Isn't lewak a higher degree of lewicowość, ie more radical leftism?
I agree about US misuse -- what are called liberals in the US are actually socialists or social-democrats. It is the exact opposite of laissez-faire liberalism, because they advocate an over-bloated welfare state dispensing hefty handotus to their pet minorities.

Off-Topic / ATT: PF-ers - Hang or hoist up Polish flags on 2 and 3 May, not 1 May! [5]


Mayday was part of the Soviet subjugation syndrome -- Poles were pressured, threatened and blackmailed into celerbating this alien fest. Now it can be called Stalin's revenge. The inclusion of the hated red fest has placed the genuinely Polish 3rd of May observance in a week of disruption and turmoil when nothing can be attended to becuase people are celebrating a 10-day "weekend". Bad for industry, business, school learning and overall national morale.

The only redeeming non-Marxist aspect of Mayday is that, thanks to the CAhtolic Church, it honours St Joseph the Worker. Whatever the case, I hereby apologise for my country in which during a period of anarchic turmoil and confusion a hadnful of rbid socialists and anarchists introduced this abortion of a holiday in the late 19th century. America luckily came to its and has ignored that faield occasion ever since. Tomorrow all decent Americans will be back at work and school. The real Labour Day is celebrated on the first Monday of Septmeber!

Food / Garlicky butter-cheese spread - this is a trick I learnt in Poland. [16]

jon357 - soda bread
Also in pancakes instead of milk, and soda is the leavening agent there too.
You apperently lack a Polish palate, because one of hte simplest but most glorious summer delights are fresh-dill-garnished tiny walnut-sized boiled new potatoes dotted with butter and eaten with a bowl of cold cultrued buttermilk in a bowl on the side.

Food / Garlicky butter-cheese spread - this is a trick I learnt in Poland. [16]

jon357 - wash it thoroughly
But that way you get rid of the buttermilk -- one of God's (or Mother Goose's) great gifts to humanity, a most healthful drink chock full of mineral nutrients. Don't you think it'd be better to pour off and reserve the maślanka for drinking, shape the butter into a ball and place it in a bowl of cold water to solidify before refrigerating?

Food / Garlicky butter-cheese spread - this is a trick I learnt in Poland. [16]

jon357 - maślanka
The first time we got nearly a glass of buttermilk out of the deal. It wasn't the tart full-flavoured cultured commercial stuff (which I prefer because I'm used to it) but extremely mild. The next time she whipped it differently and most of the maślanka got absorbed. My better half never shops at Biedronka (only Simply and Le Clerc), but the Piątnica brand 42% cream is probably stocked by all the chains.

Food / Garlicky butter-cheese spread - this is a trick I learnt in Poland. [16]

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Easy and delicious home-made butter from 42% cream

Wife recently ran across a new 42% cream that said on the label: for cream fillings or home-made butter.
She tried it using an immersion blender and within a few minutes got a container of the best, creamy, fresh-tasting butter imaginable. Try it, I know you'll be crazy about it!

Food / American baking products (bread, shortening, etc) [19]

dolnośląsk - shortening
There used to be a Polish vegetable shortening called ceres. Haven't seen it for years. Dunno if it's still produced and sold.
Found this on wiki:
Ceres - roślinny tłuszcz jadalny, biała lub kremowa substancja otrzymywana z miąższu orzechów palmy kokosowej[potrzebny przypis]. W Polsce produkowany w procesie chemicznego utwardzania z oleju rzepakowego[1]. Stosowany do głębokiego smażenia, m. in. pączków, faworków.

Love / Urgent Relationship help - wife wants to stay in Poland [118]

atch - needs reform
Many reforms are needed and some have already been launched; others are in the planning stage. The point is that the previous PO/PSL govt was not about reforms or ordinary people's concerns but mainly focused on serving the govenring clique and its supportive elite. Yes, the present people-friendly govt has had clumsy slip-ups and erred, but only those make no mistakes who do nothing. And the numerous reforms actually enacted were carried out in a climate of maximum hostility and international snitchery bordering on Targowica by a resentful opposition still in shock over losing power.