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Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]
Yeah you keep saying that about PiS but I never met one person who agrees on that take of yours, only 1 or 2 likely biased newspapers telling people what to think. Bit like expecting the Mirror to tell everyone to vote Tory innit
Actually, if you look back through the archives on here, you'll find plenty of examples of what they did. Meddling with the justice system (including making it clear that the Minister of Justice had the right to interfere with sentencing and other aspects of "justice" was but one example).
They were an absolute mess. And I don't know what kind of people you're talking with, given that the voters went against PiS in droves in 2007.
Let's say PO narrowly win by 1-1.5% with only PiS and Kukiz in the Sejm. Do they form a coalition with their arch-enemy Kukiz? (For some reason Kukiz harbours an almost paranoid hatred of PO.)
That's an interesting scenario, and plausible. If we assume that the numbers are something like 195-190 with Kukiz holding the other seats, it suddenly becomes a huge problem for PO. I honestly don't know where they go - forming a coalition with Kukiz would be electoral suicide, yet the alternative would be Kukiz supporting (at least) a PiS minority government. PiS would then be in the PO-2005 situation - they wouldn't have to do anything at all. In fact - this should really be the PiS aim - leave PO to try and form a viable government.
Wisdom has it that the winning party will usually be punished if they cause a second election. So in your scenario - PiS would merely have to be seen to be offering a viable Grand Coalition with PO and they would come to no harm. PO on the other hand - they would have to try and find a way to form a viable government - which would be very difficult given that Kukiz has promised the moon and PiS wouldn't need to enter any coalition as they could probably find some economic common ground with Kukiz to enable them to run a minority government.
So, your scenario is actually the worst case for PO. They also suffer more than PiS when it comes to voter fatigue, so a second election would be a disaster for them too. PiS could also benefit massively from offering to abstain on certain votes in exchange for pushing through some Duda-led ideas, so it would really be great for them. It would also give PiS a chance to show that they can behave responsibly and can be trusted with power.
Re Kukiz not having a programme - he has proposed a 2000 zł pay rise across the board and lowering men's retirement age to 55.
Wałęsa's 2000 zł pay rise after "S" was recognised led to the emptying of shop shelves and butcher's hooks. People strolled about with cases full of cash looking for a kolejka to join. If you didn't need what was being sold, no problem - you could barter it over to a neighbour.
Yes, it's economically nonsense and just populist rubbish. He was supposed to try and offer something different, but he seems to be trying to position himself to the right of PiS socially and to the left of PiS economically.
Polonius, as a PiS supporter, would you accept a coalition with PO?