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Ironside   
19 May 2011
Life / IS Poland in danger of becoming the next multi cultural sink hole? [201]

One shouldn't criticise them, but this revolting mentality.

Look who is talking ...

And you are talking about sending people back to where they came from, so by your own opinion (not mine), you should leave the U.S.
Hence you are a hypocrite.

Well, he is not, he is talking about India, Pakistan or Africa. Tell me where in those places are immigrants from Poland, bah, from Europe? ? eh?

how long did you pay into the sytem? how long have you been drawing from the system?

What is that to you? You are supporting unconditionally your government policies, eh? So, as long as what he is doing is legal, it should be OK with you.

or maybe you a hypocrite and you support those of governmental polices which suites you ?
Ironside   
19 May 2011
News / Failures of Poland and Tusk`s government [191]

Its very existence is a failure for Poland. Sad, that such creatures are being supported by fools, bought in by propaganda.
PRL-bis is blossoming !
Ironside   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

Well as I have thought Harry.

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Selected lines of demarcation between Lithuania and Poland, 1919–1939. Light orange line denotes the line drawn by the Suwałki Agreement
And :
Under pressure from the League of Nations, Poland agreed to negotiate
Although neither Vilnius or the surrounding region was explicitly addressed in the agreement, numerous historians have described the agreement as allotting Vilnius to Lithuania.

Well, i think that not sane person would think that Poland will agree on such injustice.....

Polish General Lucjan Żeligowski, a native of the historic lands of Lithuania, was given command of the 1st Lithuanian-Belorussian Infantry Division (comprising mostly Poles from those lands

Żeligowski in proclaiming a Central Lithuania, he honestly believed that he was creating a Lithuania—albeit one that was dominated by Polish rather than Lithuanian culture.

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What is interesting - The Lithuanian forces in the region had to garrison Vilnius, whose Polish population (forming the majority) were restless. Polish population supported Żeligowski forces, many of their family members were in his Division, militia forces began orchestration of uprising.

Meaning Lithuanians had to had occupations forces ready to subjugate local population.
Furthermore in said territories election was held and in 1922 Central Lithuania's parliament would vote for their state's incorporation into Poland
Well, Harry does self-determination rings any bells?
If not - up your :)

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Ironside   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

By which right you claim in this case White Ruthenia, which was in fact a Polish colony?

Polish colony - you are ignoramus Belgian ?

By which right you claim Breslau,

by the right of given Prussia what she deserves for the partitions and WWII>

And then in 1920 Poland agrees that that land is Lithuania. And the next day Poland invades Lithuania.....

I don't know what you are talking about, an given your accuracy in dicribing facts from Polish history I will not take your word for it. Link please.
Ironside   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

Silesians have developed as a precious mix of Poles, Germans and Bohemians/Czechs...it is not a mono-culture, never has been.

I'm talking about prevailing ethnicity, that there was some exchange of people with neighbours is clear. To be honest all German are mix with other people, with Avarians, Slaves and others...

As for uppers Silesians they had always close ties with Poland, well maybe not in the years 1795-1918, but other than that, it is wishful thinking on you part.

territory which even Poland said belonged to Lithuania.

sure, belonged to Grand Duchy of Lithuania, in a historical sense, become in 1791 by the popular will of the representative's of both countries the Duchy and Crown merged formally stating that their are thereafter constituting one body - Rzeczpospolita.

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And then in 1918 some upstarts jump out of the bushes and declare that their Lithuanians and they from the former territory o the GDoL this and that - hilarious.

As if Gaelic speaking Scots said, we are the only real Scots and we want this and the Edinburgh, and the rest of you either fall in line you Anglicised Scots or go to England. As I said addled in the head, but partition does it to people.
Ironside   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

Let us go back to the Upper Silesia in Poland. The Silesians always were there, only the borders were moving. What the same people as above say? "Silesian can be Silesian as long as they are Polish citizens and speak fluent Polish".

Not correct Silesians were there when Polish Kingdom were created/born. Their language (according to linguists) are as close to Polish as it can be. They are branch of the same tree.

As for today, for Silesians there were always three options : become ethnic minority like Sorbs(in Germany), go back to their roots and become Poles (and Silesians with their traditions, customs and lingo), or become Germans.

Grandfathers of those Slilesians already choose, with theirs life's and blood, they choose Poland.
Why now some of them are going back on their sacrifice, because Poland had been disappointing? Hell it was disappointing for everybody in Poland, but it wasn't Poland only Soviets.

Nowadays we have PRL-bis, but it is not fault of Poles but of the all people who voted (or not) also Silesians.
Time to build together a real Poland, not muddle about like pussies.

Exactly how many days in September 1939 did you defend it? More or fewer than seven?

How long lasted independent Lithuania without independent Poland ?

It had already been invaded and occupied for two decades by Polish troops, they were in no position to defend it when the Polish troops ran to Romania, sorry, I mean, retreaded to the Romanian bridgehead.

Ah dry up ! You should go to Lithuania you are addled in the head like them,
Ironside   
14 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

anyway like i said i find the subject interesting but have not much knowledge on it,

Let make it simple.
The Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Kingdom of Poland about 400 years in union and in 1791 joined together as the one country. (lasted for another till 1795 - killed by Russia and Prussia).

To make you understand - is not as if you can see analogously Poles =English, Lithuanians = Scots.
For once Lithuanians weren't homogeneous people, they were mix of what is today called Belorussians, Poles and Lituanians and others.
Two, the name Pole in the Commonwealth had double meaning - Poles as population of the Crown (Kingdom of Poland) =English, and Pole as in citizen of Commonwealth = British.

After partitions which confused and destroyed much on said territories remained three groups, confused =Belorussians, addled in the head =Lituanians, and fused= Poles.
Ask away, it is simplified explanation.
Ironside   
13 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

The lines are drawn, if those Poles in Lith felt so bad, couldn't they get Polish citizenship and leave?

Well, read some of my posts here.
Sure, I could ask some of Scots in Scotland - if you don't like this or that - why don't you leave?
Lith is in EU, they can leave anytime - thats not the point- they are living there longer than Virgina was settled.
Ironside   
13 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

What can they get upset about if the Lithuanian minority is treated very, very well?

I know them, they will be upset that Poles in Lithuania refuse to assimilate and become Lithuanians. And then they will be upset that Poland do not express gratitude for that.

And then they will expect apology for occupation and then they will demand compensation.
They are addled in the head. (at last majority)
Ironside   
13 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

From a purely strategic point of view, Russia must be loving the problems between Poland and Lithuania.

From the realistic point of view they can take Lithuania for what I care.It is not possible to reason with them.
I would grand Lithuanian minority in Poland all rights and privileges, but I would expect the same from Lithuanians. They think that they can discriminate against Poles, and they are so important. Well, they are not, and their population equals population of greater Warsaw.

It seems a bit daft that Lith would make exceptions for Poles living there. This isn't Poland after all.

Seems to you is the right expression, but you know nothing about the issue.
Harry
Rather Jewish, maybe influence....
Well, are you still claiming that you like Poles?
Ironside   
13 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

The problem is that Poland is accusing Lithuania of something, when Poland is doing the same thing themselves.

Sonny, Lithuanians do not honor their obligations. They have sighed agreement with Poland, also they are bound by the EU law.
If there is something of the nature you described in Poland, it is plain retaliation.
Funny though like you always stick for interest of Poland, not!
Even if you know a little you assume much and Poland is always at fault.

it's about time that someone such as Germany

Yes about time that somebody give you what you deserve...
Ironside   
13 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

in case of Lithuania but as far as the USA, we were talking about the assimilation of foreigners in this country (the locals in the USA).

I sense BS or double standards.

well, you see the Lithuanians obviously don't share your opinion about it.

Who cares ? !They are bound by the law.
Ironside   
13 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

no it isn't at all. I've heard it from many Poles when I was in Poland. Unless you're disappointed because you believe that I should actually believe that it really was originally a part of Poland.

Poland before the WWII claimed those land being continuance of Commonwealth - part of Lithuanians rejected that connection and were trying to build nationalistic republic.

Poles from the Wilno region were those native of the land who appreciated heritage of the Commonwealth and thereafter they felt connection to Poland, because of culture.

They were absolute majority on said territory and that is that.
Nowadays nobody claimed Wilno but policy of Lithuania towards Poles living there, surly can convince Poles that they should claim those lands.
Assimilation is not an issue here, you are talking forcible assimilation and uniformity, a bad idea.
Ironside   
13 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

Only because you guys claim a part of Lithuania as your territory.

Well, I must say that is a very silly sentence,I;m disappointed.

Okay...but that has to do with this polish/lithuanian conflict what exactly?

Everything you say has nothing to do with the thread. Stop trolling.
Ironside   
12 May 2011
Feedback / Why PolishForums? Give us your stories! [60]

What do you think?

Where do you fit in ?
And about point 6, I think it is rubbish spawn by the particularly dense poster.
Ironside   
12 May 2011
History / Why did Russia attack Poland in WW2? [178]

and badly equipped.

Comparatively, German economy was much better.
Budged of antebellum Poland was a few times smaller than German budged. Additionally, Poles were refused a credit to develop their industry while German were recipient of substantial financial aid - mostly from the Wall Street bankers.

Think is BB, German had crucial advantage in planes 2000 as opposition to 600 plus, and tanks, no matter PzI or other.
As for better lead, well Poland was encircled by German forces even before the war started, in that situation only moron would lose.
I'm not saying that German Army was bad in the military sense of the word.
Plus the Red Army was your ally.
Hope it does sink in this time.

Bratwurst Boy:
If numbers were your main concern Poland should have given in to negotiations with Germany (whose numbers didn't came out of nowhere) to avoid any war

Yeah she should.

"Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to."

Provide some source other than that rag or shut up!

but Poles of that time liked to talk big as in "in one week in Berlin".

Really? So did Germans and what more they acted on it.
Ironside   
12 May 2011
USA, Canada / US citizenship via US Army [50]

No, author of the article is a retard, poor choice of words. You were right the first time convex.
Ironside   
12 May 2011
Genealogy / Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth - my Lithuanian ancestry? [10]

Pacewicz or Pacevicius or how blimy they write it)

Pacan ?

I read that most of the Lithuainian elite were "Polanized" in a linguistic-cultural sense

Well, the best analogy is England and Scotland, I hope it does answer your blooming question :)
Ironside   
12 May 2011
USA, Canada / US citizenship via US Army [50]

5 years in the pokey for Poles that join a foreign military?

It had never been a real barrier.
Ironside   
12 May 2011
USA, Canada / US citizenship via US Army [50]

there are better countries for that

Maybe you mean: /blackwater.jpg

fuzz:

They want to gain American citizenship. American recruiters recruit foreigners with green cards, mostly Latinos and Poles. Already 20 Poles have died in Iraq and Afghanistan - reported by " Gazeta Wyborcza" .
Ironside   
12 May 2011
News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

To be honest that is a secondary issue. The main problem in Poland (I guess in other country's as well) is a lack of solid government working solely for the interest of Polish people.

Given that the US base issue could be solved in amicable manner if necessary.
Ironside   
12 May 2011
USA, Canada / US citizenship via US Army [50]

there are better countries for that

You mean France? No combat zones at the moment.
Ironside   
12 May 2011
Travel / Polish Lot - Serving Alcohol [14]

#1

The answer is yes and yes !

#2

All depend on the amount of alcohol you will drink and how do you handle a drink. If you will have problems with mobility or you will behaving disorderly, it is very likely you will find yourself electrocuted :)

Toronto :)
Ironside   
12 May 2011
USA, Canada / US citizenship via US Army [50]

I would rather join the French Foreign Legion then fight for the US.

The pay is a pretty similar.....
Ironside   
12 May 2011
History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

'Soczewica, koło, miele, młyn".

I wonder how many mistakes were made were made. If somebody was nervous or had slurred speech :)
Ironside   
12 May 2011
History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

According to the books BB reads Mazowsze was settled by Goths, the same goes for western Ukraine, Slaves supposed to emerge from Polesie.
In fact, nobody can say for sure it is only guessing !
Ironside   
12 May 2011
History / Are Polish territories natively German? [73]

Bratwurst Boy in a thread about Polish minorities in Germany stubbornly claims that Poland is in fact natively German. Since other people are sick of this discussion in that thread, I suggest we move it here. :)

He claimed that Germans were there first and then along comes Poles met by the local native people.
Let assume for the moment that what he claim is true:
These late comers, not necessarily Poles yet, but say almost-Poles, probably mixed with local Germans or better still with almost-Germans and together had grown into what is know now as Poles.

Those almost-Germans which left were only distant relations.
Meaning Poles are natives of said territories.
It is interesting concept, Germanic tribes plus Romans = French, Germanic tribes plus Celt's = Germans and so on :)