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Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Good point, it might be sometime around German unification ?

That's unlogical...without a german nationality before there wouldn't had been a unification wanted! Why not saying "5 years back"...."yesterday"???

It's interesting to read these misconceptions about Germany by foreigners...:)

I am packed and just before my travel to Kopanica :)

Have fun in Köpenick! It's a nice, green district...:)

If Bratwurst vison became true what we are going to do with this (example) all Szulc (in German Shultz) families ... and what about eastern German familie

Schultz is the 254th most common surname in Germany

nachname.gofeminin.de/w/nachnamen/nachname-schultz.html

(Doesn't sound polish though...)

Nonsense :) How many times they fought against 'themselves' till Bismark?

Well...Arminius got killed later by his ow men.

Much later protestants killed catholics and vice versa till 1/3 of the german people
were dead and the land wasted...

Doesn't mean a thing about national consciousness!
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

When the Germans formed their national identify?

Year 09 A.D. during the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest against the roman legions!!!
GERMANIA WOULD STAY FREE! :)
Arminius became the earliest folk hero of the Germans...
(The Siegfried of the Nibelungen saga)

Well...and Kopernikus was quite clear about it too:

The Copernicus manuscript book states : [...] Nicolaus Copernicus Canon [in] Warmia, in Prussia Germaniae mathematician...(Nicolai Copernick Canonici Varmiensis, in Borussia Germaniae mathematici)

Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I believe heritage is something to be treasured...I mistrust so called "cosmopolitans" abit...people without roots and homes....not my cup of tea.

Nationalism in itself isn't something wrong as long as it's about treasuring and securing ones people past, present and future, then it's a good and healthy thing!

It get's disturbing if it becomes a kind of competition with others...I agree...that to often ends in blood and tears!
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I cannot see why. Does it make me a criminal?

The famous heads of a people belong to the treasure of the heritage, shared by all of this big family (what else is a people if not a grown big family).

It IS important and shouldn't be negotiated or given away lightly...

But it's true that Kopernikus stands for the centuries of overlapping and diverging Polish/German history and could become a real symbol for that.

But as long as Poland and Germany harbor so much hostility he is also a problem.

Once a new generation lives peacefully side by side without harboring any grudges anymore the Kopernikus case will be seen differently I believe - not as a divider but as a connector....
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I think he did care because he was given the chance to declare by actions his nationality.

Correct:

The Copernicus manuscript book states : [...] Nicolaus Copernicus Canon [in] Warmia, in Prussia Germaniae mathematician...(Nicolai Copernick Canonici Varmiensis, in Borussia Germaniae mathematici)

Yo! :)
He stated it even explicitely and repeatedly with his famous works...
Bratwurst Boy   
6 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Scratch a German and you will find a Pole.

So...you mean the genocidal mass murderer of the last century where deep down true Poles?

don't want her. She is German.

How come you are not claiming her?
Bratwurst Boy   
6 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

and next "maybe we could share him ?"

Well...he WAS german and I try to compromise with you and even want to share him for the sake of peace AND to acknowledge the huge part of overlapping of our both cultures and between our people over the centuries.

The polish approach is to claim him totally even as he wasn't polish!

Sorry...all my fault! :(
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Oct 2008
History / History of European and Poland's anti-semitism [192]

No need to! :)

There is, however, the likelihood that the Jews first appeared in the Vistula and Odra river basin a few centuries earlier. But age III and IV is the period when panońscy Jews as merchants traveled the trade route linking the provinces of the Roman amber from the Baltic Sea coast. This trail run near the current Wroclaw, Kalisz, Bydgoszcz and ended in the Gulf of Gdansk.

Bratwurst Boy   
28 Oct 2008
History / History of European and Poland's anti-semitism [192]

In Poland Jews were living for much longer time than in anny other european state.

Erm....help me out here please!
They came originally from the ME, right? How did they get to Poland first then?

Germany:

The first authentic document relating to a large and well-organized Jewish community in these regions dates from 321 [3], and refers to Cologne on the Rhine[4] [5] [6]; it indicates that the legal status of the Jews there was the same as elsewhere in the Roman empire. They enjoyed some civil liberties, but were restricted regarding the dissemination of their faith, the keeping of Christian slaves, and the holding of office under the government.

Poland:

The first Jews arrived in the territory of modern Poland in the tenth century. Travelling along the trade routes leading eastwards to Kiev and Bukhara, the Jewish merchants (known as Radhanites) also crossed the areas of Silesia.

Bratwurst Boy   
28 Oct 2008
Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

YEAH!!! At last! :):):)

*refrains from throwing helmet as last one got lost for awhile after the last throwing*
Bratwurst Boy   
24 Oct 2008
Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

I think szarlotka is typing the awards for us V.I.P. posters at the moment :p

:):):) That must be it! :):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Oct 2008
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

Well...we rebuild to the most part her former glory!
Now it get's even better with the rebuilding of the old city castle in the town center....:)
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Oct 2008
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

@Bratwurst Boy

Did you know that Berlin was an slavic settlement from the beginning, and that both the Chancellery of the Reich and the Reichspalast and aloot of other properties were owned by the Polish nobilty in Berlin before ww2, hurts doesn't it?

Erm...I should be hurt? Why?
Berlin is a wonderful city, was even more so before the war destroyed so much!
I can't fault Poles for coming over, wanting to live here...they do that for millenia now...*shrugs* :):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Oct 2008
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

Of course you havn't. Why would German schools teach their good German students about famous Poles?

But they do in greek schools? :):):)

I believe this goes both ways....

Enough are coming over...
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Oct 2008
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

Well...the Jews claim Einstein for themselves only too even as he was a product of german culture, of german education, of german science....but would he also have become what he was if he had been stuck in some eastern european shtetl??? Highly doubtful!

Maybe that is a criteria! If a Kant's scottish culture and education had made him what he was or Nietzsche's Poles had helped him to think some more we could agree that Scotland or Poland had a more, a better claim...but as with Kopernikus it is a fact that it was german culture, german teachings which shaped them, made their careers possible in the first place. Read their biographies and you will find that most of their contacts, their teachers, their friends were germans.

When an American today wins the Nobel prize, what do I care if he has german roots when his whole life, his education, his culture is totally american? I would never claim him!
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Oct 2008
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

He considered himself Pole and thought that Poles were right he didn't hate his people.

Then why did he go to the battle on the Orders side in the first place?
I mean this decision to "be polish" came abit suddenly, didn't it?
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Oct 2008
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

Poles making jokes and talking badly of Poland....do you think they hate Poland or are they just disappointed?
I think maybe in Nietzsches time Poland was different and had a different standing...I can't think of any German of today who would wish to be polish, sorry...

I don't know actually what you want to say with all that? Do you think this Commander in this battle (I've never heard of him btw) hated his people?

What's your problem? Do you try to be a 150percent Pole due your family's german heritage???

German citizens were making pro Polish uprises.
It is very interesting phenomen.

Is it?
Is it uncomprehendable for a "true Pole" to stand by Germans if he thinks it's the right thing to do?
Who is the blind nationalist and hater here? Are the Germans the good guys in truth?

Hello Luki! :):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
17 Oct 2008
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]

This is true.He made comments like ''Marx's sentence was too clever to have been written by a German'',or ''german mind is deep in beer''.

He....one must wonder why then he admired Schopenhauer, was friend of Wagner and served in the Franco-Prussian war then etc...I doubt he could have become what he was outside of german schools, german universities, Germany, as he was soaked in german culture, a child of it!

These a bit bitter quotes might have stemmed from some disappointment with his brethren because of that:

In 1883 he tried and failed to obtain a lecturing post at the University of Leipzig. It was made clear to him that, in view of the attitude towards Christianity and the concept of God expressed in Zarathustra, he had become in effect unemployable at any German University.