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That's a very well known psychological phenomenon.

Many of the Turks in Germany have voted for Erdogan...but none of them packs the bags to return to the promised Sultanat. They prefer the living standard and also the freedoms Germany has to offer.

It's common that expats develop a strong nationalism and that kind of split personality. That has to do with keeping to the roots in a foreign land, to rescue something from home. That's what connects them. And the longer they are away the more rosier and blurrier the memory becomes. That fogs their political decisions too...since they often only get their infos from nationalist media outlets and don't know anymore how life really is in their home country they have left for many years.

Many of the Germans in the US were more Nazis then the Germans at home during the Thirties...

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That's just sad....Interwar Poland sounds like an interesting place to be (to have been?)...


True too...

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Hmmm....maybe you are onto something here...

I don't remember gay rights being a topic in the GDR at all!

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These points sound rather like consequences than reasons...


Well...not in 1932! :)

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They did that too in Interwar Poland...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polska_Roma#Interwar_Poland

Liberalism AND multiculturalism in Poland much earlier than elsewhere!

Compared to your image of Poland:


How was their mentality different to modern Poles? And why did it change?

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Liberalism? Gay rights? Didn't you imply to be against that is somewhat part of the polish mentality? Or did I get you wrong?

Because if that would be and the stereotypical Pole is anti-liberal...anti-gay rights...who were these people in Poland back then in 1932? What was their mentality?

That decision in that time is nothing but awesome...at a time where everywhere in Europe people could get jailed and murdered for having the wrong preference.

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What was that mentality then back then in 1932?

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That:


"Such thinking" meaning between others gay rights...you had no idea that homosexuality was an officially allowed part of Poland earlier than everwhere else, hadn't you?

That Poland was much more liberal much earlier than others...that doesn't fit your image.

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This is not about the intricacies of gay rights...it's about your image of Poland which is just not factual!

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So what...that is just a side dish, even not all gays are of one opinion in that regard.

Fact is that Poland was much more progressive back then as in most countries the dark ages still ruled! They were FIRST!

...Since the foundation of Poland in 966, Polish law has never defined homosexuality as a crime.[4][5] Forty years after Poland lost its independence in 1795, the sodomy laws of Russia, Prussia, and Austria came into force in the partitioned Polish territory. Poland regained its independence in 1918 and abandoned the laws of the occupying powers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Europe#History

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Heh:) You really have no idea....

Poland was first in Europe to acknowledge gay rights!

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Well...so that means there is no "slavic" brotherhood at all, isn't there? It's like a "germanic brotherhood" without Germany...or a "celtic Brotherhood" without Scotland...


Every country has it's nutters! :)

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No...I wonder where does that "slavic brotherhood" leaves Poland. It was notably absent in these military excercises...

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Hate is at foremost self-destructive. Hitler was full of hate, he so wanted to get even with France! Look what it got him...


So, you want to get even with Germany? For WWII? How so?

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Yeah...I wonder where that leaves Poland....


That is crap! Every time such an animal rapes a girl it is widely reported in the german media..and even as one is one to many I can't remember more than a handful and a loss of "ten's of billions" should be surely felt in the state budget by now!

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....and they say Germans were bad at humour! But you take the cake! :)

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So...because Germany left it's borders open to a few thousand refugees it should be bombed?

Seriously? Are you for real???

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I'm not blaming anybody. I was asking you if a total destruction of Germany every few years would help you with your hate...

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What is my true face?


Would that make you feel better?

Apropos Churchill:

"I look forward to a United States of Europe, in which the barriers between the nations will be greatly minimised and unrestricted travel will be possible.'

We must build a kind of United States of Europe..The structure of the United States of Europe, if well and truly built, will be such as to make the material strength of a single state less important...

'We cannot aim at anything less than the Union of Europe as a whole, and we look forward with confidence to the day when that Union will be achieved.'"

:)

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Ever heard of a "self-fulfilling prophecy"? :)

You keep expecting the worst, you act as if you are surrounded by enemies, cooperation becomes sellout, trust becomes treason, bitching and interfering becomes pride and then no wonder, people leave you alone. With only an far away ally (who couldn't care less)...

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....but Poland and Germany do it better than the US in my opinion. The time of these judges is limited (in Germany 12 years and ending with the age of 68).

No drama like in the US where such a judge has to die on his seat before a change can take place.

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@Dirk diggler

At that pace you will get a break from the forum soon again...tell me, aren't you sick of it?

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Erm...

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Yeah...well...you find that funny, but consider our violent past and the destruction these manly men back then brought...


Seriously dude? She is only in power for two more years...

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We don't have a problem with America, we have a problem with Trump. Small but important difference...

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....after all the Trumpists can't demand for Europe to stand on it's own feet and then protest and pout when they make plans to do just that!

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I wonder how many of them will use Poland as their entry gate to get jobs in Germany...here they are sought desperatedly for example as nurses in care homes.


Nah...we are ALL serbs, after all! :)

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I wouldn't measure the support on the size of marches or parades...as the past has shown.

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Nope...Germany incited by Austria! Germany's political error was the loyalty to Austria as Austria-Hungary declared war against Serbia....

It was after all Bismarck who said:

"Der ganze Balkan ist nicht die gesunden Knochen eines einzigen pommerschen Grenadiers wert." (The whole of the Balkans is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.)

The Balkan was important to Austria-Hungary, not to Germany....

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Hmm...."hindsight is twenty/twenty", or so they say.

You can't put Europe's suicide on Princip's shoulders. Sure, he delivered the spark, but all powers back then where chafing at their bits to to start the fire...if not him, it would have been something/somebody else.

In the same vein he isn't responsible for Polands independence...that wasn't on his mind at all...