USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]


absolutely nothing. as a matter of fact, what is the point of this thread if after all, it's risk free? why even bother asking any questions or advice, just do it, it's only a year!

the OP obviously should just do it and stop wondering if it's actually the right decision.

there.

USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]


Good. So what is your advice?

USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]


I lived there for 4 years. Can YOU support that statement?

Nanna wrote:


You've lived there for 20 years. I'm not following.


I'd say you're spot on with that. I've lived in the north, I've lived in the south. I've lived in Poland. Those experiences influence my opinions on Poland. It's that simple.

With that said, it brings me back to one of my previous statements. You've only lived in NYC so "where you live might be infuencing the way you are formulating your opinions" as well. You've lived in 1 state. There are 50. Think about that.


which is what i'm trying to provide. you came on here for advice so why counter everything I have to say?


Your homeland over 20 years ago.

A key difference here is that I've actually paid taxes in Poland, held a job, paid for overhead, dealt with Polish business people.....what adults do. You were taken care of by mom and dad, went to school, goofed off, maybe played a sport or two.....what kids do. Your view of Poland has expired. You know what it's like to be a kid in communist Poland. I know today's Poland and that's the topic at hand.

I could provide goods and bads about staying in NYC and going to Poland. But, when I read your OP, I made logical deductions and formulated opinions. If that's not what you want, if you just want more and more people on here to tell you "good luck" and "just give it a try!" then you're not here for advice, you're just looking for a pep rally. Feel free to PM me, you just might be surprised.

USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]


yes, it could be the best decision she ever makes, but you could say that about any decision at any time. she came on this forum to ask for advice, and I'm giving it. saying, "go for it, it might be great," is NOT advice. it's wishing someone luck.

Hey, i can do that too. Hey pam, have a great day tomorrow, I hope everything works out for you! There.


someone that lives in NYC, a city most people dream of visiting, let alone living in, she's been in the USA for 20 years and claims to be very successful, and she's considering moving to a country almost nobody moves to. think about it.......negatives are sure to come out and i'm not going to sugar coat it just to avoid some flaming.


south east USA. why?


Warsaw......New York City.

Warsaw.....New York City........


Wrong. If you were so sure of yourself, you would have skipped the whole internet forum advice part and bought your plane ticket already. you're here because you have doubts.

as a matter of fact, you've already made it clear that you're worried about finding work for starters and mentioned ESL to see what we think of it. I already said what I had to say about it and plenty have agreed with me.

If you want advice from someone that will give it to you straight, send me a PM. I'm a Jersey native, have Polish family in Poland and the tri-state area, spent 4 years in Wroclaw teaching ESL (2007-2011) and married a (native) Polish girl. I don't hate Poland, I just know the realities of "here" vs. "there" and am fine with putting it out in the open. If you want to have more smoke blown up your a$$, well, keep reading posts from the cheerleaders on here.

and that's plain english.

USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]


this is dangerous talk.

i know i know, the hustle and bustle of NYC has gotten to you and you feel like you need a change. at 35 and single, maybe you've had a failed relationship or two and a change of scenery is something you crave.....just keep in mind that once the honeymoon stage of going back to the motherland wears off, logic will start to win, as it always does one way or another. 20 years in the USA from the age of 15......you my friend are American with Polish blood and going to Poland, living in the boonies, teaching English (you'll be stuck with that unless you're willing to move to a major city......well.....cashier at Biedronka is always an option) is simply a recipe for problems. My 2 cents.

Anyone else notice that in her entire OP, she didn't have one good thing to say about Poland? Not one comparison was made originally, just a kinda, "yeah, thinking of doing it.....do i sound crazy?" This should not be overlooked. Take that for what it's worth.

And for those of you saying, "my life is the opposite", well, of course it is. You've been in Poland for years and you can't compare what your life is today to what her life will be for the first year in Poland. The OP was basically, "give it a year and see how it goes," and that's how I'm basing my opinion. She will take an enormous cut in pay and in lifestyle, live in a tiny little apartment and work mornings and nights to make ends meet. That's what first year ESL'ers do.

If NYC has grown old for you........move to another state! You've got the entire country at your disposal. Go live somewhere warmer. Go live somewhere slower. If you have as much corporate experience as you say you do, go use it elsewhere in the USA because even in today's economy, someone with years of NYC experience has plenty of work waiting for them throughout the country. Then again, I don't really know for sure how successful you are. All corporations in NYC have receptionists, too.

One last thing: I'm sure the smaller towns and cities are not as selective, but your English is not perfect, it's evident from your posts. Although you're what I'd consider fluent, you make typical Polish mistakes still and if you in fact did go to a major city, with no ESL experience to boot, you may struggle to find a job because there are Poles out there with absolutely stellar English skills that won't make the mistakes I'm seeing in your writing. Just sayin'.

USA, Canada / Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years. [155]

New York is an amazing city. No place else in the world like it. You move back to Poland, not only are you going to take several steps down in lifestyle, but you're going to realize how much you had in New York/USA and what you now don't have in Poland.

With all that NYC corporate experience you speak of, I can only assume you are successful. Why throw that all away on some fantasy of going back to the motherland? Teach English and live in some dank little apartment, working evenings, working nights, making crap money.....it makes no sense.

Your life is in America. Keep it that way and when you want to go to Poland, buy a plane ticket and go visit.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


right, because hanging was an american invention......

Food / Anybody in Poland actually eats soup-mix soups? [27]


surely you can't be suggesting that the avg pole works SO HARD that they can only find time for a Goracy Kubek.

anyway, i'm not going to participate in this. I'll bring the thread back to the direction it will surely go: "Poles eat soup packets sometimes but Americans still eat much much worse because all their food is genetically modified and everyone in the USA is fat."

go.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


talk shock? i mean, it's just a guess but "tok" sure sounds like "talk" and "shok" is not Polish spelling.


I'm trying not to be sarcastic here, but uhmm....any name you can think of that doesn't involve english words would be an improvement. Bill Maher has a 1 hr "show" on HBO called 'Real Time with Bill Maher'. The word "show" simply isn't used in the title but it certainly is a "show" with Bill Maher as your host. Before he moved to HBO, the show was called 'Politically Incorrect'. Another example would be "Late Night with David Letterman". The possibilities are endless, just be a little original. Or don't, be lame but leave out English words in the title of anything on Polish TV.


Amen to that. Just remember everyone, flame a.k., not me!

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


but what are you saying, that without english to save the day here, the title of the show would just be wrong or inappropriate if written entirely in Polish?

why not just name it something else?!

why is "show" the only viable option?

surely there have been other "shows" before Majewski and Wojewodzki, no?

i just think it's so funny to see all these english words popping up in polish and the reason always given to me is, "well we don't have a good word for it." well then, your language surely lacks a lot of words!

News / Poland and the European Union Fund Allocations [59]


the relation is that it is all money not earned in Poland. it is money the country itself did not provide or generate or did not give an opportunity to earn.


dude.......it isn't going to sink in, man.


good one! now you have to be Polish to do simple math and to be able to look at a bar graph.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


yes. ridiculous.


right. words like "foul" and "out" were chosen by the nobles. oh, and can't forget znokaltowac.

News / Poland and the European Union Fund Allocations [59]


none the less, the money sent to Poland creates a one way street. The avg. Brit earns money and pumps it right back into the system. if a lot of your country's money is going elsewhere, the economy is taking a hit.

for example:

irishcentral.com/news/Polish-people-working-in-Ireland-sent-home-16-billion-last-year-133798773.html

I've been looking for an article I read a few months back, it had the estimated amount sent from the USA to Poland in 2010, I forget the amount. Anyway, the point being a lot of Poles in Poland have that apartment or that car or whatever because of money earned elsewhere. Millions of Poles have benefited from UK and USA money which I think pertains to this topic indirectly.

I'm happy to see Poland on the up and up but we cannot overlook the amount of "overseas earned" money being pumped in by the billions every year. Sure, they're going out there and earning it which is awesome to see, but it's worth mentioning because a lot of Polish people's recent success has been achieved through financial gains outside their borders. Stop money flow to Poland from the USA and the UK and you will see a very different Poland.

Even within my own wife's family, there are great success stories with US dollars to thank for it.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


there is no limit. ha, "limit".

News / Poland and the European Union Fund Allocations [59]


it would be more interesting to know how much money is earned by poles in the UK that is never taxed and then transferred to Poland.

News / Poland and the European Union Fund Allocations [59]


that's what I'm saying. it seems like a lot of free money that Germany/France/UK will never get back. From what I understand the UK gets about 1/2 back of what they put in.

News / Poland and the European Union Fund Allocations [59]

Here's what's annoying about this statement:

It's totally true, I posted a link above to drive this home even more, people aren't disputing it (because it's true) yet in a week or two, people will start talking about it again as if nobody ever made this statement and that they have never heard of such a thing. To boot, it will have changed nothing in their discourse about anything in Poland. It is amazingly cyclical. Total denial of the facts over and over, then you beat them into admitting to it, then it comes back.

And I don't think it's just this forum, I don't even think it's Poland. It actually reminds me of the extreme right in the USA.

Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]


ding ding ding!

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]

Examples?

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]


HAHAHA. Of course.

What for? Because I think it would help us avoid further pointless discussions, if I must spell it out for you. That, and I don't believe you (I double dog dare ya'!)

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]


please tell me that was tongue in cheek.


Time to put your money where your mouth is. Examples?

News / Controlling the internet ACTA in Poland (Like SOPA) [34]


Interesting how you bring up the USA specifically while overlooking other countries like.....ooohh I don't know....China?

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


wwwwwwwwwhat?

and yeah, Warka is pi$$ water.

USA, Canada / How to get Drivers license in IL without social security? [96]


oh please don't pretend you understand how America's economy works.

Travel / Trip from Boston, USA to Poland - cost of stay / places to visit? [14]

Yeah yeah, and he can carry a tent on his back and wash his clothing in the river and dry his socks on tree branches!

Take the average person, fly them out to some little airport in Poland and give them a bunch of random little cities to visit for a month and see the look they get on their face. This person's looking for a vacation, not a lesson on survival.

As for women, this would be utterly out of the question.

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]


As long as people keep posting on here that the average salary in Poland is 12,000zl per month and that Poland would be just fine without EU cash and that Polish food really IS great for weight loss and that all of Polonia is made up of traitors and that Polish weather is ta' die faw' and that Polish really isn't difficult, all languages are just as hard as any other! and most of all, as long as people who don't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground keep posting rubbish about the USA even though they've never even set foot in the damn country then yes....you will continue to hear from me and if it makes the USA appear more attractive than Poland in the process, well, so be it.

Travel / Trip from Boston, USA to Poland - cost of stay / places to visit? [14]


which is his only option, really. you're not going to send a foreigner to Middleofnowhere Zdroj, Poland, to travel around, especially without knowing the local lingo. Krakow, Warsaw, Wroclaw, Poznan, Gdansk, etc.

USA, Canada / How to get Drivers license in IL without social security? [96]


Your entire country is run on taxes (and EU handouts). It's how socialism works. You don't think "trickle down economics" actually works, do you?

Travel / Trip from Boston, USA to Poland - cost of stay / places to visit? [14]


Can you find a decent hotel in a major city in Poland for 150zl? Hmmm.

Either way, your absolute low end comes out to $3,000 for the month which seems about right. I said $2000 because you could always stay in hostels.