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Bratwurst Boy   
20 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Where is this Rychlik guy anyhow?

At least they don't want to polonize Hitler.

Wrong direction as Hitler wasn't an Ossi like Coppi but an Austrian....the Hungarians could have a go this time!

*runs*
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

So's my doberman pinscher.. doesn't mean he wouldn't take a bite of your ass.

But they are the best, aren't they!

Okay, okay...*takes helmet*

People get taller on average the longer their family stays in America. Each generation gets taller so my prediction is, unless some unforeseen drastic situation happens, Americans on average, will be a race of taller than average people, even if not genetically predisposed.

Well...it won't be only Americans who would get taller but for better nourishment since childhood most people will grow taller as their livingstandards rise.

Not to mention Europe who have some of the tallest people between them already.

But I watched another dokumentation recently which showed that people stopped getting taller already....so it's not a kind of endless development.
There is a natural limit within our genetics!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Erm...adhering to the Treaty I'm not commenting anything...just posting a link!

dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/07/y-chromosome-mtdna-and-eye-color-of.html

...Copernicus' haplotype places him almost certainly in haplogroup R1b. While this haplogroup has a very wide distribution, it is the case that it is one of the haplogroups which differentiate Germans from Poles.
So, while this is insufficient to ascertain the ethnic origin of Copernicus' patrilineage, it certainly suggests a higher probability for it being of ethnic German rather than Polish origin....

....still not saying anything!

...Analysis of the SNP position located in the HERC2 revealed the homozygous C/C genotype, which is the predominant genotype among blue or gray-eyed humans (≈80%).
This genotype is rare among people with dark iris coloration (8, 20, 21). The result indicates that Copernicus might have had light iris color, a finding that is rather unexpected given that he is usually shown in portraits with dark eyes.

Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

That would be true if there weren't so many tall people here.

Well...the majority of the immigrants are quite smaller.
You are probably of european stock (*gasp*) and as Whites we are as average taller than the millions of new immigrants from Asia or Latin America!
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

We will have medium complexion, brown or green eyes with splashes of oceanic blue with some slanting due to the Asians. Our hair will be curly or wavy and very thick and our height will be around five nine or six foot, on average.

I rather think you will be small like chinos or mexicans, olive skinned with dark eyes...some will have also slanted eyes...

But you will end up that way if you DON'T close the borders more likely! :(

But Scrappleton hates me - I will now hate the US back forever!

Nope, I'm American. I don't look or sound like a European. I don't identify with Europe at all. Bloodlines that's it.

You're half Pole, aren't you?
You are soooooooooooooooo European! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

WE get along alright. We don't fight each other in N. America. At least not for centuries.

You are kidding, aren't you....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

This is a timeline of United States military operations. From 1776 to 2008, there have been hundreds of instances of the deployment of United States military forces abroad and domestically.

How "European" of you!

Do you really think you belong to a new race???
YOU ARE EUROPEAN!!!
The US is a child of Europe, conquered by Europeans, build by Europeans, settled by Europeans! People of European stock made you, their colony, all big and mighty!

And in case you aren't an Asian or a descendant of formers slaves brought in to work on European plantages or a native YOU ARE AN EUROPEAN!

Do you have an idea how ridiculous you sound?
(If you are not a green martian that is....)
Bratwurst Boy   
19 Jul 2009
News / Are Polish People Being Discriminated Against? Problems getting a US visa. [258]

Don't forget that it was the Europeans who made it possible for you today to p*iss on them.

Without the Europeans there would be no Scrappleton living there....

The US now has Canada in the north and Mexico in the South as lonely neighbours...after lots of war and bloodshed and some genocide thrown inbetween.

Quite comfy, isn't it! (I really can't see them threatening the US somehow somewhere)

You really shouldn't compare the US with Europe or forget your roots Scrappleton!

You ask for Europeans to be fair to the US - how can we if you yourself give a sh*it....
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

*BB cleares his throat and with a shaking hand he takes the pen from his polish counterpart and after reading the treaty again with a frown he nods determined to himself and with a suddenly strong and quiet hand sets his name under the agreement which will open a bright and peaceful future for all threads (and their children) on PF*

Where is the pub?
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Allright, I'll split Copernicus up He was 3/4 Polish and 1/4 Prussian.

Where come the 3/4 polish from?

I would agree to a 50/50 chance for his father having some polish connection if I'm generous and only because there is no definite proof for either side, but that's about it!

Make it 3/4 German and I could agree...:)
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Because there wasn't a Polish nation at that University, so he couldn't join it.

There was nothing else he could have joined? :)
Where were all those bright, polish heads???

He surely wasn't "forced" to join a university in Italy as a German...now you are getting ridiculous! :(

Curie for example spoke surely russian and french...should we call her now Russian?
Does her mother tongue and her heritage count for nothing too?

What about Chopin? Half french, who worked and lived for a big part of his live in Paris and spoke french!
Shouldn't you better scratch him from your polish list too once his heritage and mother tongue doesn't count for anything?

If you want to argue if we should share him or not, you have to find someone
else to argue about it, because I agree with you.

I'm doing exactly that...be it with 1Jola, PlasticPole or Sokrates, all Poles who hate the idea of Kopernikus being a treasure of both our nations...better stay out of these discussions if you don't like what you read!
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Not really. It only says that it was his first language, to which
there seems to be enough evidence.

What is your mother tongue Torqi? English or Polish?
Everybody knows the difference, don't play the fool here...

Kopernik is one of the most famous German-speaking Poles - that's true.

I told you we should share him...it's Poles who don't like to!

Oh, come on. Don't be ridiculous. "German nation" was the name for
the group of German-speaking students and you know that. *rolls eyes*

Well...it knocks down the polish-heritage-Kopernik myth quite well!
Why should a proud Pole enlist in the german nation even only in a university???:)

On the other hand it's proof that there was nothing to "germanize" about Kopernikus, he was a German!
On the other hand some Poles wish so hard to "polonize" him, it's scary...
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Bollox.

Why?
Your link proves me right (didn't you read it):

"Eligibility for admission to this German Nation was based on language not geography. In other words a potential member's home did not have to lie within the boundaries of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation but German had to be his Muttersprache! (Mother tongue)"

...
all those whose native language is German even if
they may live elsewhere....shall be deemed and understood to be the Association of the GERMAN NATION!(emphasis mine)

As was the case with the Koppernighs!
Hence Kopernikus enlisted as of german nationality!

Thank you very much! :)
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

there's enough German inventions that you can lean on but the press was just about perfecting and commercializing existing technologies.

You know...I will take the encyclopedias praising the german Gutenberg as inventor of european printing press, thank you very much! :)

PS: Just for interest, who else was about to develop a printing press besides Gutenberg?
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Kudos to them, Germans are clever people which i

Dang! I prepared already for another nationalist-fight about him too...

but Kopernik specifically deserves being defended as a Pole.

Well...it reminds be about Don Quichotte but don't let it stop you!

Its not like we couldnt just buy the press so again kudos to him but its no Prometheus bringing fire.

Well...in a way it was.

It was Johannes Gutenberg (no...not another Silesian) who developed the printing press in 1439.
Without his invention there wouldn't had been the possibility to just "buy a press"....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Gutenberg
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Another try of denying german past and history in what is now Poland?
First Danzig and now Krakau?

Just read that: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w#Golden_age

....The 15th and 16th centuries were known as Poland's Złoty Wiek, the Golden Age.[12] Many works of Polish Renaissance art and architecture were created there during that time,[13][14] including ancient synagogues in Kraków's Jewish quarter of Kazimierz, such as the renowned Old Synagogue.[15] During the reign of Casimir IV, various artists came to work and live in Kraków, and Johann Haller established a printing press in the city[16] after Kasper Straube had printed the Calendarium Cracoviense, the first work printed in Poland, in 1473.

Etc., etc., etc.....lot's of Germans in this city of the Hanseatic League.
Stemming from Cracow is so not a killer argument for being polish!

And again just for you: newadvent.org/cathen/04352b.htm

...In 1497 Nicolaus was enrolled in the University of Bologna as of German nationality and a student in canon law

THAT is a killer argument!

No, BB, Poles considered him Polish in the previous ceturies also.

Well...Kopernikus considered himself as a German...that counts more if you ask me!

Why don't you put him on your banknotes?

Well...we have Euros now and I think you will lose his banknote too once you join the Euro....

PS: A German brings printing to Poland...any comments on that?
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

but his family resided in Kraków for at least 3 generations,

A city of the Hanseatic League with lots of Germans!

he spoke and wrote Polish, had a Polish name and Polish citizensship as well

Any link for that? But I have one for you: newadvent.org/cathen/04352b.htm

...In 1497 Nicolaus was enrolled in the University of Bologna as of German nationality and a student in canon law..

How come he took the german nationality if his fathers had been polish (as you say)!

so he's undisputedly Polish and for several generations too.

From a german family, who spoke and wrote german, who took german nationality for studies...what a Pole!
Bratwurst Boy   
14 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

In Latin, also Sean Kopernik could speak Polish from day 1 given that his family hailed from Kraków.

Even Krakau had lot's of Germans. It was a city of the Hanseatic League after all.
How do you think papa Kopernikus spoke with his wife Barbara Watzenrode?
And how did the children converse with their uncle Watzenrode who took them in later?

Any evidence at all that Kopernikus spoke polish?

You are applying 21st century code to the 16th century. Too much sun?

Well...the Poles do!

There is not much polish about the Koppernighs but alone the fact that he was born in a then polish town let's Poles fight tooth and nail over him.

Regardless that he stems from german background and his family lived in a german town (before the peace of Thorn).

THAT is 21th century nationalism at it's worst!
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Thats correct. Without the very aggressive stance shown by the Germans towards the Russians, (change of policy when Kaizer Wilhelm came into power) and their full fledged support for Austria, Austria began to feel an air of cockiness, as showcased in their unrealistic demands to Serbia.

See what I mean?
For some it's ALWAYS the Germans...
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Oh pleeaaaase...now Germany forced Austria???

The immediate or proximate cause of war was the assassination on 28 June 1914 of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, by Gavrilo Princip, a Serbian nationalist.

Yes, Germany could have said no to the alliance...retract...betray an ally...we chose not to.
Not much good did it bring us!

So, maybe BB every nation need some "stories" to feel good about common national psyche - to point out a finger at one is a very humane and a very wrong at the same time!

Yeah..maybe you are right....but if it is constantly used to shoot against Germans and Germany I as a German feel p*issed off...slowly but surely...

Defining a nation through an enemy is always a recipe for desaster...
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Why? Are they not German?

Idiots...

Highly debatable to say the least...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan#Expenditures

Germany got 1448 Mill Dollars

...The transfer framework for the largest support ever from EU Funds to member states is being finalized this fall. More than € 347 billion will soon be available to the least developed EU member states for 2007-2013.

Poland alone will receive € 67 billion.

That's a tiny, easy bit more, don't you think...

Well, as a matter of fact it united German state started both world wars :)
Don't think you mistake cause and effect ?Aufwachen BB!!!

WWI was started by a serbian who decided to kill the austrian archduke.
Germany honored an alliance with Austria.
It was a war all empires were geared up for, since the political landscape in Europe waited to be shaped anew.

You see what I mean with writing a history either black or white?
You can pin every polish wart on a German if you want to...but it just wouldn't be right.

I've never been to Germany - cross my heart, but I've heard that Polish minority
doesn't have its representation in German parliament (and much smaller German
minority in Poland does have its representation in Polish parliament guaranteed).

But we have lot's of -ski's everywhere in every position! :)
Doesn't that count for nothing???
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Oh, we would have one long time ago if we invaded and plundered half of Europe
and after the war as a reward received huge American fundings to rebuild our
economy.

Well...at least the Germans (those who received funds) build up a friendship with Americans (the anti-amis lefties don't count).
Poland will get more support from Germany than Germany ever received from the US but it doesn't stop Poles from shooting against Germany whenever it is convenient.

You will call a polish satellite Russia??? Now that I want to see...

Oh and yesterday I read Israel will buy again lots of
new german weapon systems.
It seems without german help their existence would be much more endangered now than it is anyhow..

And for Polonia:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonia#Germany

...The second largest Polonia in the world, and the largest in Europe, is the Polish German community. As many as three million people living in Germany may be of Polish descent, although the vast majority of these identify themselves as Germans. The main Polonia organization is Kongres Polonii Niemieckiej / Polnischer Kongress in Deutschland. Polish surnames are very common in Germany...

Not so successfull this extermination...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_minority_in_Germany

You seem to like it here nonetheless!
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Jul 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Heh:)

German communications satellite Kopernikus:
(Once the Poles have one too they can call it what they want)

engineeringbritain.com/space/archives/176-GMES-becomes-Kopernikus.html

europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/08/1330&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en

don't hold it against him, he's
usually a decent fellow.

Yes, I am and I better leave now...
But sometimes you Poles are so frustrating!

*goes for beer*