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mafketis   
27 Jul 2010
News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]

Alright, so I'm a Jewish ... Should a Hebrew interpreter

Well most Jewish people don't speak Hebrew and a lot of Hebrew speakers are not Jewish in any real (religious) meaning of the word, but assuming you're a Hebrew speaking Israeli yeah, it's the responsibility of the government that wants to monitor your conversation to providefind interpreters to do so. That's a basic tenet of European law.

There are cases when an individual is initiating contact with a government authority where that's not the case, but in adversarial, government initiated contexts, the burden of crossing language barriers is on the government not the individual.

The German Jugendamt's refusal to adhere to this basic principle is possibly one of the reasons it has such a bad record with the ECHR.
mafketis   
27 Jul 2010
News / Is Jarosław Kaczyński the new Lech Wałęsa? [74]

It's quite obvious what he means and any intelligent person can see that.

Well if he's suggesting foul play then that would be zbrodnia in the legal sense. So we're back to him not making any sense.

My best guess is that he's trying to stoke his base by rumblings about foul deeds that only he can make right and/or working off some personal guilt feelings since IIRC the alternate Katyn ceremony was at least partly his idea.

For the record for the nth time: I'm open to the idea that foul play was involved but have been unimpressed with the 'evidence' claimed so far. A person would have to be an idiot or in deep denial to believe the official 9/11 story, but if foul play was involved in Smolensk it was a lot more subtle and better carried out.

Regarding Farage, that's a far more likely scenario (is there any evidence beyond convenience?) I absolutely assume Paul Wellstone and David Kelly (among others) were deep sixed.
mafketis   
27 Jul 2010
News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]

Even if the father is scum and the health and safety of the children is threatened the visits should be on HIS terms????

Choice of language? Yes. And it should be the responsibility of the Jugendamt to supply interpreters if they think such are necessary.

Again, if he's such scum why does he have visitation rights at all?

Your dollar makes for a good life in zloty-Poland or what do you mean?

I live on the local economy. By freer I mean that overall people are freer to live their lives how they want to (partly because of a healthy distrust of authority) than they are in nanny state Germany.
mafketis   
27 Jul 2010
News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]

1. No Polish ancestory (most of my ancestory is ..... Deutsch including a healthy dose of Schwabian), but I live in Poland. From what I've experienced of Germany, I definitely prefer life in Poland, it's much freer.

2. US child services are horribly corrupt. That's one reason that I don't trust any child service bureaucracy anywhere. The jugendamt has several times already been criticised by european authorities for their treatment of non-Germans (not just Poles)

3. You don't know one bit more about the specifics of this case than I do.

4. Even if the father is scum (which is a possiblity) if he has visitation rights they should be on his terms and not those of a bureaucrat. The burden of solving linguistic problems should be on the jugendamt (_if_ they're acting in good faith).
mafketis   
27 Jul 2010
News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]

I just find it funny that the first to blame for you Poles is the german Jugendamt,

I just find it funny that you have such trust int he Jugendamt (which has come in for a lot of international criticism, not just from Poles).

You are such idiots! Hopeless!

You're such a bootlicker! Hopeless!
mafketis   
27 Jul 2010
News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]

You don't know much about this case at all?

I know just as much as you do in your touching faith in the power of impersonal and unaccountable bureaucracy....

NeoNazi-Germany must be a horrible place to be for polish subhumans

Did you just say that?
mafketis   
27 Jul 2010
News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]

.only Poles or relatives speak it.
It's like Zulu for Germanics...

But Poland shares a border with Germany. Polish is the fifth (or sixth) most spoken language in the EU. IT doesn't say anything good about Germany if Germans think of it like Zulu.

Everybody speaks english...it wouldn't be as hard to find an english speaking social worker!

My point is an English speaker would never meet the kind of discrimination in Germany that Poles routinely meet.

Maybe he is raping or beating his children when nobody looks...

then why does he even have visitation? If it can be proved then he should have no visitation, if it can't be proved then don't micromanage parent-child relations.

I remember a similar case from a few years ago where a judge ruled that one parent speaking Polish to the child could have a harmful effect on their linguistic development. I'll admit that that bit of ignorance has colored my view of German judicial attitudes toward Polish parents.
mafketis   
26 Jul 2010
News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]

Leaving aside any he said/she said scenarios, the fact remains that in Germany Polish is hardly some rare exotic language like Zulu or Telugu. It's a disgrace that the office in question is too incompetent to provide Polish speaking staff (or interpreters).

Since he has visitation rights, then he should be able to speak to his children in Polish. Shame on Germany for this.

Would an English speaker be treated like this?
mafketis   
26 Jul 2010
News / Is Jarosław Kaczyński the new Lech Wałęsa? [74]

Lately the surviving Kaczyński twin seems to be taking over Lech Wałęsa's habit of saying things that don't make any rational or logical sense whatever.

Famously, in reference to people who refer to the Smolensk disaster as 'zbrodnia' (crime, murder) he said (rough translation): "It may not meet the legal definition of zbrodnia, but it fits the colloquial meaning."

Does anyone else have any idea what (if anything) that was supposed to mean?

I asked a few Poles (all very well educated) what that was supposed to mean and none of them had a clue. I'm reminded of "Jestem za a nawet przeciw" (I'm so in favor of it I'm even against it".
mafketis   
21 Jul 2010
Life / What are the things which cause culture shock in Poland? [164]

I'd say the biggest difference and the hardest for anglophones, me included, to fully come to grips with) comes under the general heading of 'rules'.

For a Brit, according to stereotypes (mostly accurate imho at the individual level), there shouldn't be too many rules*. For Polish people (IME) there need to be a lot of rules, the more the better (which is why government efforts to trim the bureaucracy are bound to fail - despite what they say, Polish people want there to be bureacracies with lots of rules.

For British people rules need to make sense and be fair. Polish people just don't care whether or not rules make sense or are fair (the reason for this in a moment).

Brits also think everybody needs to follow the rules while Poles think other people should follow them and treat the question of whether or not to follow them themselves as one of personal discretion. If you don't like a rule and think you can get around it, more power to you!

Another area is medical care. British people think most illness will naturally work themselves out and oddly enough doctors seem to think that too. The British press is full of people dieing after 6 British doctors fail to recognize some really hard to miss disease.

That happens much less often in Poland where people tend toward hypochondria and are supported in all their most dire predictions by most doctors. Anything out of the ordinary is thought to probably be dangerous and you can go to the doctor for something minor that seems obvious and you'll wind up taking 6 tests for other things and have three new prescriptions. (post operative care is also more thorough a former British colleague had a procedure done in Britain and their Polish doctor was horrified at how little follow up there was.

*I know this is not backed up by UK governments over the last 15 years or so, but I'm pretty certain that UK governments over the last 15 years or so have been purposefully trying to destroy the British state and build something different so I'm not sure if that counts.
mafketis   
20 Jul 2010
Study / Learning Polish at Adam Mickiewicz University [11]

Neither a native speaker _or_ a philologist is a good teacher of a particular language for beginners unless they have some training or particular skills in teaching that language for beginners.

Native speakers with no training and philologists with no training in foreign language teaching can be very useful to learners (much) later on with more specialized kinds of tasks but in the beginning you need someone with a particular set of skills that neither is likely to have without that training. AFAIK the Poznan program doesn't realize (or care?) about that.

I've heard good things about the £ódź, Kraków and Toruń programs (Warsaw's also kind of not so great for other reasons).

I had a friend (pretty fluent) who went for some summer program in Cieszyn a number of years ago and they weren't that happy with the program (they tested at a lower level at the end than at the beginning). This is someone who was transcribing Marek Grechuta songs by ear and trying to translate the lyrics (for fun on their own) so they might not have found a level advanced enough.
mafketis   
20 Jul 2010
Study / Learning Polish at Adam Mickiewicz University [11]

To be honest, AMU doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to teaching Polish to foreigners. Most of the teachers are from Polish philology and don't necessarily have any special training in teaching Polish as a foreign language, they just don't understand some of the problems foreigners have and can't explain things in a way that foreigners can understand.

I haven't taken courses with them, but I known a number who have and weren't satisfied.....
mafketis   
15 Jul 2010
UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]

He is referring to the west of Poland becoming much richer and the east ever poorer. JK would redress that balance but Kommie will only exacerbate it. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

The only way JK could 'redress' the imbalance would be to impoverish the west. He knows (and cares) nothing about the creation and maintenance of wealth.

Kommie has his faults, but his ultimate goal seems to be to raise all the boats, while the Duck wants to drain the harbor.
mafketis   
12 Jul 2010
Life / Second hand English bookshop in Warsaw [7]

There's a Polish used book store (antykwariat) on Ujazdowska, just a little south of Plac 3 Krzyży. There are two entrances and I forget which has an English section but it used to cover almost a whole wall (though I haven't been there in a long time).

There's also another Polish used book store with a lot of English books near Plac Konstytucji (maybe on piekna or koszykowa?) near lwowska and poznanska.
mafketis   
11 Jul 2010
News / New cross war in Warsaw [530]

Maybe pettiness is an immanent Polish trait?!

For Polish politicians, absolutely.
mafketis   
11 Jul 2010
News / What awaits Poland after EU surrender [14]

Therefore I'm a perfect acceptable asylum seeker in your eyes...

No, because the threat comes from a finite set of private individuals who would be acting against the laws of the country they're in.

Laws that make homosexuality a punishable crime are a different matter entirely.

Is there potential for abuse of granting asylum to homosexuals from countries where it's illegal? Yes, there's potential for abuse in any kind of situation regarding asylum, that's no reason to vicariously support barbaric legal systems like those of Iran or much of Sub-Saharan Africa.
mafketis   
9 Jul 2010
News / What awaits Poland after EU surrender [14]

Should people be able to claim asylum simply because they are gay?

From Iran, yes (as long as the current government and legal system is in place - if they join the 21st century, then we'll see....)

From Cameroon, I don't know, but most sub-saharan African countries are also pretty oppressive to gay people (see recent Malawi case).

And ... in such cases their asylum should be revoked upon the first sign an individual is playing gay to get asylum (no "Oh I used to be gay but now I'm cured" if they get over the gay they can get back to where they came from).
mafketis   
5 Jul 2010
News / Will Komorowski be Poland's worst ever president? [72]

First, campaigning and governing are two separate skills. You can be good at one without being good at the other.

That said, I'm glad BK won but I don't honestly expect much from him.

But then the Polish presidency isn't such an important post so it's hard to screw it up too much. I do think he'll be slightly less likely to engage in pointless bickering over protocal so I guess that's something.

If people get that upset over what PO does then they can force early elections, like last time.
mafketis   
5 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]

Glad I slept through the neck and neck part (especially the duck in the lead part) and finally awoke in a Poland that's just for "filthy-rich tycoons, lobbyists, crafty wheeler-dealer types and assorted, yuppies, eggheads and snobs" as Polonius3 would put it. Yahoo!
mafketis   
4 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]

Kaczynski has won earlier in a similar situation..

I don't know .... all three major polls show Komorowski ahead with the lowest number at 51.0. But of course I don't know the margin of error........

On the other hand, would PiS survive if he won? The president can't (I think) belong to a political party and PiS doesn't have any other potential leaders as far as I can tell.
mafketis   
4 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski won Poland's presidency vote? [125]

First exit polls reveal slight Komorowski lead.

But, exit polls have often been unreliable in the past. Does anything think that JK still might have won?
mafketis   
4 Jul 2010
Life / Talking over people in conversations; is it a Polish trait? [41]

This is actually something linguists have studied, how people in different cultures organize conversation, especially how long the breaks between speakers are and/or how much turns overlap. There are clear patterns across cultures (along with variety within cultures).

I've never seen data for Polish people but my gut feeling is that they probably overlap a little more than US speakers but not by much.

The champions in one study were Cubans. For them often a conversation had more time with both rather than just one person speaking.
mafketis   
3 Jul 2010
News / Komorowski - Russian stooge, traitor background [42]

I, for one, do prefere the government to be engaged in petty bickering

I'm a lot more sympathetic to people who'll be voting for JK because they want deadlock than for those who think he'd do anything good......
mafketis   
3 Jul 2010
Work / Studying in Poland in Polish or English? I need a better option. [9]

Neither will be easy. Polish is a hard language to learn quickly. A school in £ódź used to prepare students for university level clases within a year but it's a lot of intense work.

On the other hand, Polish faculty tend to teach better in Polish (as it's the language of all spheres of life in Poland). Also English as spoken (and written) by Polish people is liable to vary a lot from what you're used to. And that will also take a period of adjustment.

Regardless of the language of studies, you'll definitely need to learn Polish well as most people in Poland are not interested in accomodating foreigners who live here and don't know Polish (they're okay with helping short term visitors and/or tourists but will be perturbed if you don't make rapid enough progress in Polish). And the bureaucracy is all in Polish.