Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]


This man begs to differ:
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7n36qV4Lk94
I'm against today's expression of "Multi-culturalism" because it ignores the root problem of native people's BEING FORCED TO LEAVE THEIR HOMELAND in search of a better life. The problem is that they have No Options at Home and that's the real problem. Importing the problem is not the solution-it's a band aid.

History / History of European and Poland's anti-semitism [192]


A fair observation. The process seems skewed as does the interpretation.

It would be like asking someone if they believed a person tends to identify with their gender and then deciding that's evidence of sexism.

Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]


Well said.


Well said.Relying on other nationalities to secure your system, your culture and your values is the surest way to losing your system, your culture and your values.

The multiculturalism that has come into existence in the west has been perverted and subverted to increase Government Involvement in People's Private Lives.
The social problems that have been plaguing western nations are directly linked to Government initiatives to create Social and Cultural awareness and tolerance. Invite that into a country and you can look forward to new Social Laws banning this and that and forcing you to accept this and that and pretty soon you will have a lovely system like in:

American schools where holidays will be reduced to nothing, St. Patrick's day was renamed O'Green Day and all religious and historical significance was removed from it.

France where African men have openly claimed, as part of their defence, they raped white women as revenge for the Racism those men have felt.

UK where Muslim African women get only a suspended sentence despite beating the p*ss out of a white woman while uttering racist comments, meanwhile a white woman is

jailed for saying something racist.
Canada where the fcuk do I begin with how "ready" teachers and social workers are to get involved in children's lives.

IN EVERY nation that has embraced it, Multi-Culturalism has brought Much More Government Involvement into Your Private Life and all in the name of Promoting Tolerance and Diversity. It's great for big business, bad for communities and provides easy ways to divide people on issues.

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]


perhaps, it's just that using terms demands agreed upon/recognized definitions so we can all agree or disagree with a notion. Hatred and Racism- great, how the heck are we supposed to define those two things without having to define a whole bunch of other abstract terms. And to do that you have got to prove things, not just belt out something that has the right catch phrases. Many of "those" things are hard to prove and thus these conversations are doomed from the outset based on the knowledge or lack there of that many participants have on the matter.

I enjoyed those quotes by the way. It's an eloquent way to summarize much of the human condition.

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]

It sounds catchy but the logic seems rather circular.
Care to expand?

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]


Okay, I'll do that.


Fair enough, then what are we to make of this thread then?

If race can't be defined, and I'm not saying it can be, then what exactly is "racism?"

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]


I've heard that before too, this does require us to ask what exactly defines "race."
ttt for some answers.

News / Polish robots did very well in Vienna [8]

Nice job by the Poles! It's soooooo much cooler and motivating to see young people succeeding and taking pride in what they know and can do as opposed to the emptiness of western teen aspirations. Their parents must be very proud:)

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]

If I recall correctly, being semitic and being Caucasian are not mutually exclusive. Caucasian, Negroid, Mongoloid- if we are to go by those definitions of race, we are all classified as one of those three. Don't ask me how Aborigines are classified nor the native peoples of North and South America. But as far as I know, Semitic (Israeli and Arabic tribes) is not a "race" per se.

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]


That's the problem with than angle i.e. why even have that argument in the first place? What point could you possibly hope to prove?

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


Yet there are still unemployed Poles in Poland. Sounds like the workplaces CAN be filled by the local population.
It's likely that some training is needed but honestly are these highly skilled positions they just can't fill no matter what? It is more than likely the pay is just too low. It really is time that employers here started paying employess a wage that reflects the cost of living in Poland. Employers and business owners have always tried to pay as little as possible and then complain about the state of affairs in "THEIR" country but never spread the wealth. You think that changes or stays the same with immigration?

Take a look at the rest of Europe, North America and Australia- immigrants are brought in to work for cheap, stay at the low end of the societal spectrum and increase the rate of poverty. That's the track record of "multiculturalism in our time.

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]


How is it not? A person is a person regardless of colour- you're exposing yourself here and the view is looking grim.

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]


Are you suggesting that slavery is or has only been a race related issue- look up the etymology of the word.
Are you suggesting ALL white people bear the burden of guilt for apartheid and segregation? It seems you're the one who is guilty of racism here.

Poles, to the best of my knowledge, don't have a shared history of enslaving members of other races so why would you bring that up along with apartheid and segregation if a Pole should happen to dislike non-Caucasian people or culture?

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]

What are you talking about? What "damage?" Who is it done by? Who/what is damaged? How is it done?

News / American soldiers beat up in Torun, Łódź [141]

Some American dudes got beat up by some thugs in Poland. Polish dudes get beat up by thugs in Poland everyday but I don't see you nitwits making so much noise about that.

Some foreign soldiers learned a lesson on spotting the difference between a bar you don't go into and a bar you chill out in. That's it- some of you fuggers got some race related hang ups and are doing A LOT of projecting.

*urinates on thread and leaves*

UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]

I'm sure a Polish man or woman cannot be a fan of most things African based on more than some embedded "ism," maybe they just haven't liked what they've seen or experienced.

Why is it always white people's "fault" for any negative feelings they may have regarding the culture and values of a people who aren't white?

If a Chinese person doesn't like European culture, does that make him racist or normal?

News / American soldiers beat up in Torun, Łódź [141]


No it is not, stating it as fact and jumping to conclusions based on 0 evidence is where boletus made his point.


...ah Hungarians, there really ought to be more of you in the world.

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]


Which basically means:
"hey street kids, you got to where you are today because your great-great grands probably forced somebody else out [of the streets]."

Hey factory slaves in Indonesia, hey favela dwellers, etc, etc.

Let's go back to 1941- "hey concentration camp victims, you got to where you are because you great-great grands probably forced somebody else out."

Logic fail on your part sister.

History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]

why should the majority today's Polish population receive praise for something they had no part in?
why should the majority of the world's Jewish population receive sympathy for something they had no part in?
why should the majority of the world's population wage war for decisions we've had no part in?

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


When in the course of human history has immigration not occured?
Human migration is a constant but in today's world, with today's technological capabilities, it shouldn't be a necessity.
For many, it is and that is what you fail to understand. I am not arguing against immigration, I am arguing that we shouldn't be rallying around a banner that sees people HAVING TO leave their homeland. Do you honestly think that so many people would migrate to other lands if they didn't have to?

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


yeah, really.


And what's your point?


dripping with irony...why are you debating me then? Do I really have to repost what brought us to this stage? I can oblige but it seems your goal is to mire this in non-sequitorials and sarcasm. Let me know if I need to bring you up to speed or if you manage on your own.


...then try reading without your voice, you'll see improvements.

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


it wasn't a question at all. You seem to be confused here.

It seems you're playing to some crowd that isn't here- what other reason would you have for taking that quote out of context? You and I both know the only reason I typed "non-whites" was to keep my response on point to the post I was responding to. There should be incentives everywhere for people to peacefully prosper where they were born.

You're coming with less and less substance and I have sources for what I wrote about how "aid" goes right into the pockets of western business and political cronies.

Don't waste my time man, bring your A game or go back to minors.

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


That can be said for mainstream media as well. However, you are simply advocating throwing out the baby with the bath water.


Go on, tell me how that money is spent. It never gets to where tax payers are told it goes, shipping, contractors, consultants all get to dip into all forms of "aid," including infrastructure. Educate yourself man.

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


Actions tell a different story.


Go on then, assure me with something other than conjecture. I can find many videos online of people (who had nothing to gain) claiming completely the opposite of what mainstream talking heads have claimed.

This story didn't get much airplay:
youtube.com/watch?v=O35_Ai6EsMU

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]

Me too but to pretend the "west" still isn't actively keeping Africa destabilized (with the help of some corrupt Africans) is really naive. Even when people want to do the right thing, they're just killed anyhow or a coup just happens to pop up. Look at all the huge advances there were in Libya in terms of literacy, standard of living and higher learning...oh yeah that didn't really get much air time did it?

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]

so that makes it alright? Just because someone doesn't care for their city the way I would like them to, doesn't mean it's fine for me to march in with my thugs and start knockin heads. Might doesn't make right.

European rulers were basically slave owners themselves, the average European during and before the industrial revolution was poor as sh*t and was treated like sh*t- let's not suggest anyone was on a moral highground as far as ruling went.

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


THere should be incentives for non-white immigrants to not become immigrants at all. Having to leave your home because staying will get you killed or living in abject poverty is something we should help others avoid.

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]

I think Poland is awesome being almost completely Polish. I enjoyed Poland much more 10/11 years ago when it was less westernized than today but some don't feel that way.


Why?
What will happen to Poles if Poland remains as exclusively Polish as it is?
Not too long ago, the German Chancellor publicly regretted the German foray into multiculturalism, what do you know that she doesn't?
Many in France and the UK are become VERY disenchanted with this modern expression of multiculturalism, what do you know that they don't?

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]

This is not a solution A or solution B dilemma gentlemen. There are options which do not require people leave their homes for other places. That, imho, is the worst case scenario- your place of birth is so crap that leaving becomes a necessity.

News / What is the population of Poland's non-european minority? [142]


So you pointed out what I had already pointed out. Okay then.

jasondmzk- I am still curious to hear your definition of "over-willing" immigrants and "under-willing" hosts, you mentioned this term so I was hoping you'd give it some teeth.