UK, Ireland / Why do so many Polish guys in the UK have a crew cut or buzz cut? [106]

Tonsure is the exact opposite of the haircut once favored by the Polish szlachta, the former being a shaven crown and the latter shaving all but the crown.

UK, Ireland / Why do so many Polish guys in the UK have a crew cut or buzz cut? [106]

According to the following passage from The Secret History of Procopius it would seem that the mullet was the coiffure favored by the Massagatae- the nomadic nation from whom Pan Zagloba claimed descent:

UK, Ireland / Grateful Polish photographer stitches up his Welsh hosts [96]

If the Polish photographer was really intent on mocking his hosts, as this thread wrongly claims, then he wouldn't have titled this photo "Pink Hat" in the exhibit, but rather something like the caption I have provided......

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UK, Ireland / Grateful Polish photographer stitches up his Welsh hosts [96]


Pawain, you should note that the photos you've posted were not all taken in a single night, but over a five year period. And thanks for posting the thigh signing one twice- it is the most pleasing of the bunch.

UK, Ireland / Grateful Polish photographer stitches up his Welsh hosts [96]

Niether Cardiff nor the Polish photorapher should be ashamed. Those photos show well fed youths partying. They are a testament to Britain's wealth. Granted there does seem to be alot of cross-dressing going on in those streets, but ever since Monty Python's Flying Circus the world has accepted and even found this to be an endearing quirk of British culture. Does the OP really think these photographs are unacceptable because a Pole took them, but they would be OK if a Welshman had? If so then that is a shameful double standard.

Life / Could anyone tell me about any Polish bands that are/were popular. [17]

The Polish "blackened death metal" band Behemoth is probably the most popular Polish band in the world and Sidliste is correct about that genre of music not being good for learning pronounciation in any language, but only in regards to human pronounciation of any language. However, it is good for learning the Sesame Street Cookie Monster pronounciation of any language

UK, Ireland / Grateful Polish photographer stitches up his Welsh hosts [96]

I have not polluted this forum with any anti-semitic filth.

UK, Ireland / Grateful Polish photographer stitches up his Welsh hosts [96]

PWEI, I have no problem with Ukrainians. Why do you claim that I do?

History / I want to meet Lech Walesa, can anyone help me? [29]

If you do meet him please ask him why he was wearing a spoon attached to his belt in this famous photograph taken as he was leaving the Gdansk shipyards to meet with Pope John-Paul II.

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UK, Ireland / Grateful Polish photographer stitches up his Welsh hosts [96]

Exhibiting photographs of drunken youths in Cardiff does not turn all of Britain into a laughing stock as the Daily Mail claims. The thin-skinned British nationalism that inspired this thread is lamentable. A photographer documenting scenes of real life on the streets should be free from reproach regardless of his nationality. This thread's impugning Pan Dakowicz's status as a gentleman is shameful and its title's use of the phrase "stiches up" is laughably provincial.

History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]

This is the history of Poland. That marital union with Lithuania allied Poland with a nation that was overlord of an area three times the size of the kingdom of Poland at the time. The Lithuanians had conquered it when they were still pagans. They had been the snake whorshipping heathen rulers of Ruthenian lands for well over a century before the marriage and at the time of the marriage this subjugated area reached the Black sea. I mention this for those who claim the Lithuanians were always weak. Poles and Lithuanians got along well. They were both proud vigorous peoples. The history of their alliance was glorious. Now to be complaining about a golden age in one's own history and saying some counterfactual scenario would've been better is silly. "Oh the Russians would've been better friends...." You've got to be kidding. Is this really what the internet is for?

Edit: "Oh the Hapsbergs would've been nicer....." Gagging a maggot with a twig from the Vienna woods.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]


Not royal coats, but rather royal mantles were made of ermine. Mantles have no sleeves and they cover only the shoulders.

History / 1920 Battle of Warsaw - English trailer and film [55]

The actor playing Marshall Piłsudski should've lost some weight and been given bushier eyebrows by the make-up artist. He doesn't look nearly imposing enough.

Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

I see a demonstration of falconry before bored youths.

Real Estate / Is there any chance I would be able to reclaim my grandfathers old house in Ostrolenka? [17]

Come on Somerset use your brain a little. Do you think the house somehow remained in Nazi hands after 1945?

UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]


That's just wrong. Tear down such signage. John Cleese lives in Santa Barbara and no one there complains about gawky elderly Anglos mucking up that city's beautiful Spanish Mission style. He should shut up about London.

History / Poland Lithuania - current relations [124]


This is terribly misguided hindsight. The Polish-Lithuanian alliance was a thing of beauty for the whole of the world to marvel at. Forged to combat the sickening genocidal religious extremism of the Teutonic Knights, the alliance lasted for centuries and unlike similar arrangements in Europe between nations, such as the Austro-Hungarian and the Anglo-Scottish, there was never a rebellion against it from the smaller national partner whilst both countries remained free. The story after the partitions isn't so rosy, but that shouldn't lead one to deny the grandeur of what once was. "Lithuania my motherland thou art like health!"

News / What you think about parliament monarchy in Poland? Imperial Poland? [13]

The Piasts are long gone. Where would Poles look for their new monarch. Should Poles find another debauched Frenchman to take, and then run away from, the throne, or scour Saxony for regents? Surely Crow you don't suggest Poles elect foreign kings again.

Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]


The Australians, by contrast, seem to put 'r's at the end of words that end in vowels. There is an Australian radio journalist on the air where I live and everytime he does a story on China he calls it "Chiner".

News / Poland hosts lowest proportion of foreigners in the EU [115]

No one cares about your preferred ethnicities KingAthelstan. You are king of nothing, and your xenophobia is sickening.

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]


Don't worry about it. Do you think that his headgear is a kuczma?

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]

This Pole looks like he is wearing a Turban.

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]

Oh well I know what I saw and turbans are not the focus of this thread anyhow. I don't want to argue about head gear anymore, nor do I want to see anymore creepy photos of weirdos licking drawn swords. This thread is meant to discuss the strange destiny of Antoni Iliński. For example: Iliński commaded forces that put down an uprising against Turkish rule in the Basra region. I wonder if he was mentioned at all in the Polish press in connection with Poland's recent foray in Iraq in the "Coalition of the Willing".

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]


I am certain the painting of Saint Kostka is in there as I remember showing it to my cousin. It features a large banquet table with mustachioed Sarmats in turbans all around except for the Saint in the foreground who is clean shaven, hatless, haloed, and swooning. All the diners have shocked looks on their faces. Does your edition of the book have color plates at all David?

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]


Go to the library and see The Polish Way by Adam Zamoyski as I am sure it contains the painting of St Stanislaus Kostka that I referred to as well as other pictures of Polish nobles in turbans. Why do you find the fact that Sarmats wore turbans so hard to believe a.k.? They deliberately cultivated an Oriental style right down to their Turkish haircuts.

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]


A.K., I assure you that the painting of St Stanislaus Kostka I referred to does feature Polish nobles in Sarmatian attire and they are wearing turbans, not Burgundian hats. There was no specific headgear associated with Sarmatian attire and turbans were sometimes worn.

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]


No, St Stanislaus Kostka was not too early to have been surrounded by nobles in Sarmatian attire at the banquet pictured in the painting I've referred to. Tacitus’ Germania was discovered in Hersfeld abbey in 1455. Jan Dlugosz (1415-1480) had already first used the term "Sarmatism" in connection with Poland, and claimed the Sarmatians as the ancestors of the Polish nobles, in his Annales seu cronicae incliti Regni Poloniae (Annals or Chronicles of the Famous Kingdom of Poland) and Maciej Miechowita’s Tractatus de duabus Sarmatis Europiana et Asiana et de contentis in eis, (Treatise on the two Sarmatias) had been published in 1517.

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]


As a teenager Iliński began fighting the tsar. He would never have felt such remorse. Southern you suggest he bow to the oppressor of his own people, and leave them under this oppression, so he could lead Poles, in a Russian army, to fight and die against the oppressor of your people, the Greeks! You cannot be serious. Iliński was a brigadier general and he fought alongside the British and others against the Russians in the Crimea. I highly doubt he wanted to switch sides.

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]

Southern, the Russians were going to imprison and perhaps execute him, not make him a general. Moreover, the purpose of Sarmatia was to be a free and powerful aristocracy of equals not to be damned Russian slaves to an autocrat.

History / The strange destiny of Antoni Aleksander Iliński [32]

Southern, from a certain Sarmatian perspective what Iliński did made much more sense than the surrender you suggest. Sarmats saw themselves as a Turkic people that had adopted the Slavic language of the people they had subjugated, just as the Bulgars had done. They saw Turks and Tartars as their peers and they saw Russians as being utterly beneath them. However, Iliński's conversion to Islam was not at all typically Sarmatian as Sarmats thought that Roman Catholicism was the true faith and Turks and Tartars were wrong to reject it.