News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Eastern Germany would separate from Germany and join back into Slavic world.

News / Samuel P. Huntington sees future of Poland outside of Slavic world [18]

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In his book Clash of Civilizations Samuel P. Huntington attached Poland to France and western Europe

What you people of this forum think of this?



Clash of Civilizations
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

I don`t like the idea. I say Huntington didn`t ask Poles. And in general speaking, Huntington mistaken. Divisions of world on global civilizations won`t look like this

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Forget Germany. Germany will be Frankinized. Its ongoing. All who stay in EU will. France is motor for changes of EU >



Maître Gims - J'me tire (Clip officiel)>> youtube.com/watch?v=F_rEHfLgdcY

One can almost feel sorry for Germany. After all, Eastern Germans were Slavs just 500 years ago

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]



But of course, it is much more interesting when you ask

Aren`t you curious to which civilizations would be Israel and Japan attached?

For Poland, I hope we concluded. Goes wherever Serbs go

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

We live in era of liberation when Slavs (ie Sarmatians) reestablishing control over their past, present and future.

Genealogy / Slavs are descendants of Sarmatians? [600]

Refreshing idea for one who is Hrvat. Good. Still for majority of convinced Croats their origin isn`t connected to Slavs but to Goths and then for Germanics. Sure, its another delusion because Goths were not ancestors of Germanics but its not the topic now.

As for your ideas, you are wrong. If you are right, there would be Lusatian Croats or Lusatian Hrvati. But no, they are Serbs. Not to speak of all other names of places and rivers all around Europe that are connected directly to name of Serbs, in ancient records. As for name of Croat or Hrvat, I could give quite good conclusion but topic is heavily involved with politics and I won`t.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

You are all naive if you believe that Merkel isn`t corrupted from outside. We live in era when world reshape.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Greeks were always privileged. You know how Italians says for Greeks? They say: ``Una faca, una rasa``. Don`t be confused with Orthodox-Catholic differences. They are above that. They are `una faca, una rasa`.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Thank you

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Guess what. If we have Central European civilization, there I signs, that it won`t be quite as we in Europe desire. Most probably Turkey will be attached to Central European civilization. And not only Turkey of now Islamic countries. Possible even Israel.

No, don`t ask. But there are signs

That if we have Central European civilization and option is Europe to be split between three civilizations- around France and western Europe, Central Europe and Eurasian Union.

To make workable, these civilizations will need space. So it will spread on now Islamic world. Look on green zone on Huntington`s map. To get something we will all lose something.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Well, you don`t need to push me too hard. I am pretty convinced that Poland goes with western Europe. Development suggest such a conclusion.

Czech rep. and Slovakia are something else.

But you forgot something. If Poland goes to western Europe then anyway won`t be capacity for formation of Central European civilization. So, Serbs, Czechs, Slovaks, Bulgarians,.... can be attached only to Eurasian Union. At least we will have Slavic language as official, while Poles will be learning in schools how is being Slavic something ugly.

If we don`t have Central European civilization

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Half of geographical Europe.

But I truly doubt Czechs and Slovaks would be separated from Serbians. Then comes the Poland, too. It will be painful. Serbians will lose parts of their old ethnic lands. Vatican is just too powerful. Only, only if Central Europe exist as unique civilization we Serbs can hope for reunion over ethnic lines, no matter religious provenience Catholic or Orthodox.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Of course. I thought its clear. I gave Huntington`s map for comparison with my observation. I think that development in global politics support my stance.

And BDW, even on Huntington`s map Europe is split among several civilizations. Even if you talk of EU as of Europe, you again mistaking. By Huntington Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro, etc countries won`t go with western Europe. With this I agree in any case, in every scenario.

"mediterranean civilization" is just working title

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


It becoming clear to me. You people lack my angle of viewing and so you are still blind- we former Yugoslavians sow all kind of social experiments on us and we understood machine. So >

1 - North American civilization (including Britain and Ireland, plus Australia)
2 - South American civilization (around Brazil)
3 - Asian civilization (around China)
4 - Mediterranean civilization (western Europe and North Africa around France and where is main domain of Vatican)
5 - Eurasian civilization (around Russia)
6 - South African civilization (what remains of black Africa around South Africa)
7 - Israel (or Israel will join in Mediterranean civilization or with Central European civilization if it is formed)
8 - Hindi
9 - Japan (or will join in Asian civilization)
10 - Central European civilization (eventually, if bigger powers don`t split us among themselves; as we see Russia do have interests to let us live as unique civilization as buffer zone but, France and Vatican push for as bigger as possible `universalistic` Catholic racily-mixed society around France)

These are the major civilizations by Huntington >



source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

By all development Huntington mistaken with Islamic civilization. It will probably be split among other players. That`s why Europe itself Islamized- aim is to prepare ground for annexation of great chunks of Northern Africa- Austrian politicians already talk of it.

As for Poland particularly, it will be hard. It may be tear apart. This time Poles beware of Vatican not of Russia. And never ever trust to France. France is the biggest monster. France is real BORG from nightmares, eater of the worlds.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Forget it man. I am pretty clear with that what happened. It happened exactly what those outside who created crisis wanted and it was aired on TV again exactly what they wanted or rather it was not aired what they didn`t want to be aired but they wanted to happen. I hope you follow me.

Now, France. No, France not rule the world but that what remain from EU after inevitable collapse. This pumping of migrants into the Germany is nothing but Frankinized Germany. While this level of inter-mixing with non-Europeans represent still something new to Germans, its not a news in France. So Germany is kaput. Oblivion. Past.

And sure France would secure domination of Vatican in that what will be created, as one among powers of Multi-Polar world.

This way or another, I am utterly happy to know that Serbia won`t be part of it, to put cross on myself.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

You giving too much attention to Germany. Germany is past. France shall dominate.

What remain of EU, after it crumble, would be dominated by France and not by Germany. Germany itself would dissolve. France is that multi-ethnic motor within EU that have developed engine of assimilation which turns all Europeans and all populace of former colonies into the French identity. France is embryo of that USA of Europe. With its assimilatory capacities and with support of Vatican with its `universalistic` approach, unique identities will be erased and replaced with new identity. That is the mission of France and Vatican in Europe and, not only Europe. In parts of North Africa that will be annexed, too.

That is where Duda leads Poland. In that.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Mikis Theodorakis described well how perfid Bill Clinton ruined international world order, by supporting western European imperialism


Whatever. But its clear why is Germany there where it is. Those who are strongest today in the world, see German role in destruction of Yugoslavia as the last Germany`s mistake.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Its all connected. You can`t deny that.

We even have clear evidences that `universalistic` option in Poland facing strong resistance from Catholic Polish intelligentsia. That seams to be behind Polish-Pope misunderstandings. Let us hope that Pope isn`t stubborn or, God forbid, evil.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Yes, and brat Jerzy Robert Nowak spoke of it on Radio Maryja, too.

Rola Niemiec w rozbiciu Jugosławii >>> youtube.com/watch?v=9V2EB9GuCvI

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

He now see that Merkel`s Jewish husband isn`t of some help. Or maybe he is.

While you all fear from Balkanization, EU would become like Israel.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

You may say its Angela but, I clearly see her role. She just have her role. You better ask what is Duda`s role.

See, Duda seams to me, represent `universalistic` option and that, as we all know, exclude patriotic option.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Now it strictly depend on Vatican and mix of power and influence that encompass Vatican`s and western European interests.

Why Vatican? It represent strongest `universalistic` option in Poland. Poles feel Slavic but its now marginalized feeling. Marginalized but still strong enough to be able to compete (at least virtually) with Vatican`s universalism.

Add more Vatican`s and western European input, add more input of the opposition from non-Catholic Slavic countries and you got it- Balkanization of Poland.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Ridiculous. And whom would USA to blame when occur social turmoils?


Have no fear. We are what we are. Serving to our civilization, we serving best to humanity. We are all needed to those who rule humanity. So we would all have good and bad days. That is the life.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


So must be universalistric? See?


If come to Slavic conglomerate in Europe, it will work if Vatican and other powers are seduced to allow for that to be possible. Or they won`t allow and then what? What would be allowed to them? Or they would prefer global war? Or other side will suggest other principle for formation of Slavic conglomerate? What with Poland then? What then with Poland if Vatican and western Europe are stubborn?

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

@Tacitus

Wrong, but you are free to believe what you want man. A lot of was invested in you mind-set so who am I to try to correct it.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

You mistaken here. I really don`t take Slavs as homogeneous.

But you go ask Catholic Poles are they Catholics by nation or Polish. Some are first Catholic and then Slavic. Some are first Slavic and then Catholic. But, hardly would anybody say he is just Catholic.

Then go ask same question to one Bosnian Muslim. Are they Islam first and then Slavs or the opposite. Then you would understand how are ideologies of Vatican and Islamic league similar, universalistic with clear pyramid of power, where ultimately must exist no other loyalty but loyalty to top of the pyramid

You are the one that have clouded judgement. Dissolution of Yugoslavia was possible only because world powers allowed that to happen. All the rest they told you is daily politics for our grandmothers. Dissolution of everything (!) is possible when world powers agree to it. Don`t forget it. To think otherwise is pure delusion.

So, like Huntington, I talk of global conglomerates that would be result of agreement between crucial players of Multi-Polar world. In that agreements, if unified Europe exist, Belgrade will be Capital. I explained principle. That would be compromise.

Or there won`t be unified Europe but other conglomerates, as players in Multi-Polar world.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

But people will need symbol and it would be allowed only to Belgrade to be symbol of unified Europe. Only possible compromise.

You must understand, among many other reasons, assimilational power of Vatican, France and Germany is enormous. It is a real threat to Slavs. To all Slavs, be them Catholics or anything else. It is threat to very principle of concept of `unique culture, people`.

Then, most importantly, its not that crucial things in the world depend on Vatican, France and Germany. Others deciding even about them. Sure Vatican is in special situation and for sure, would get best possible offer from those who deciding. So again, Belgrade. Most powerfully today stay behind Belgrade and trust only to Belgrade.

That if unified Europe even get a chance.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Britain isn`t Central Europe. But, you must understand principle. Its globalization.

But if Britain fails to join in "North American Civilization" what can it expect? I can imagine that outcome. There are signs of this possibility. Then it will be feed with non-whites so that one day it can more easily join in new Western European civilization led by France and Spain that would anyway annex significant portions of Northern Africa.


If future EU wants to have Serbians, it would on the long run lead to Belgrade as Capital of EU. Actually, without Belgrade as EU Capital, there won`t be united Europe. One who don`t understand this, don`t understand politics of Belgrade, behind Belgrade and about Belgrade.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Won`t be federation of Europeans. We have clear clash between `globalistic and universalistic` ideologies and ideologies that tend to preserve existence of `peoples, unique cultures`.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Huntington was pretty good in his book `Clash of civilizations`. Wasn`t correct in entirety but principle was correct. That should give you idea

See, its quite possible that border between newly emerging... let`s name it `Western European civilization` (led by France and Spain) and Slavic conglomerates (be it Intermarium, New Commonwealth or who knows what) goes straight thru Germany.

Before you ask.... Britain will join in... let`s give it working title.... `North American civilization`.