Love / Why are Polish women so sexy ? [390]


Yes that's true.

Check out these Slavic tennis players.

First you have a Polish girl playing a Russian girl and then you have a Serbian girl playing a Russian girl.

In both matches I almost don't care who wins ;)

Its just nice to see these Slavic Wonder Women go at it :D

Slavic Tennis Players

Wozniacki plays Sharapova
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Ivanovic plays Sharapova
youtube.com/watch?v=uxHQCr81-7A

Love / Why are Polish women so sexy ? [390]


I agree with you. I guess it doesn't hurt to have those high Slavic cheek bones ;)

There are many pretty women from the Slavic countries like Serbia, Ukraine, Russia, Poland, etc. in my opinion.

Here is an interesting article from a magazine travel article on sex appeal of cities from around the world.

I was pleasantly surpised to see what it said about the people of Warsaw.

International Allure - Warsaw, Poland

The Polish capital isn't exactly romantic, but it does boast something else in ridiculous proportions: extremely attractive people. By some weird fluke of the gene pool, the Poles collected the vast proportion of the hotness. A night out at a club there is enough to have anyone applying for residency.

News / Why is Poland developing so slowly or in the wrong direction? Who is responsible ? [317]


oooooppppssss!

Sorry hague1cmaeron for my previous post #25 to you. My mistake. For some reason only part of your post showed up and I reacted to it. Now I see your whole post.

I see the whole context of your post now and I basically agree with you.

News / Why is Poland developing so slowly or in the wrong direction? Who is responsible ? [317]


What do you mean?

How so?

So you think pre-WWII hyper multi-cultural Poland with about 24 million ethnic Poles and 8 million non-Poles who were mostly a fifth column undermining Poland, with two much larger neighboring nations ready to invade and destroy Poland put Poland in a better position then Poland today with about 39 million Poles, few non-Poles and virtually no nations today willing or able to destroy Poland? I don't get that.

Is Poland in great shape today? Absolutely not. But we don't live in a perfect world. Poland's population today is much bigger and homogeneous relative to it neighbors which I think should count for something.

News / Why is Poland developing so slowly or in the wrong direction? Who is responsible ? [317]


I think you may be right. I am not sure by what standards other Poles are using to judge how Poland is "better off" or "not better off" today relative to pre WWII and WWII years.

In my opinion, the fact that Poland and its neighbors like Germany are getting along relatively well in comparison to the 1920's, 30's and 40's I don't think should be taken for granted.

If people are looking for a perfect world, Poland nor any other central/eastern European country today may look so good.

Poland was the only country in recent years that more or less resisted a world wide recession and the population of Poland today is much bigger then in the 20's. So I don't know, in my book that may be a good thing.

In my opinion today, Poland along with most of its European neighbors have decent relations RELATIVE to 80 years ago. If central/Eastern Europe is relatively stable like it is today, I think Poles and non-Poles should not take that for granted. Pulling that kind of thing off in Central/Eastern Europe is not that easy of a thing to do, historically speaking LOL

Life / Poland's population predictions [59]


Seanus,

I thought I read that Poles in England and Ireland are having proportionally more kids then elsewhere. Do you know anything about that?

News / Poland 2050? What will happen? [60]


In response to that video of the Jewish lady saying that "multi-culturalism is a must for Europe", with all due respect to her and liberal Jews who think like her, who the heck are they to past judgement on what's good for Europe?

These liberal Jews should be careful for what they wish for. Both in the US and in Europe, most people of European ancestry have been educated in the Holocaust and even if some of them may not like Jews, they are generally sensitive to Jewish concerns.

People of NON-European ancestry generally don't care about the Holocaust or suffering of Jews since they think that was a "white man's thing" and doesn't apply to them.

The ADL has put out reports that in the US, NON-Europeans are twice as anti-semitic as people of European ancestry.

Mexican nationalist groups don't care about the Holocaust and see Jews not as oppressed people but as OPPRESSORS. Not to mention what Black nationalist Louis Farahkahn says about Jews.

And forget about what Muslim/Non-Europeans in Europe think about Jews LOL

So if Liberal Jews want more NON-Europeans in Europe and the US.......a word of caution.......be careful what you wish for.

News / Poland 2050? What will happen? [60]

LOL

Well you know there is that old "Christian" guy on youtube saying that the end of the world will be on May 11, 2011 or something like that. ;)

News / Poland 2050? What will happen? [60]


That's true.

That's the key. Diversity between various groups of people is only successful when they all put loyalty FIRST to the country they live in an not the other way around, ie to their ethnic/national roots. In my opinion, hundreds of years ago when Europeans (including Jews) were ultra-nationalistic and ethno-centric, when they lived in Poland they were loyal first to their own ethnic tribe and then second to Poland. That's part of the reason why Poland was partioned. Poland was dying from the inside, like a body dies from a disease. Which made it easier for outside countries to divide it up.

We see that "put loyalty to my ethnic tribe first" mentality here in the US with recent illegal immigrants in the US which is bad. That "my ethnic tribe first" mentality will only lead to the Balkanization of the US as it did to Poland during the partitions.

Today it does appear that the more different people are from one another, the harder for them to "mix" or get along with one another. I think that's just human nature.

News / Poland 2050? What will happen? [60]

Poland should be careful about the people it allows in.

Diversity should be limited.

The last time Poland allowed a whole bunch of diverse groups into Poland, they became fifth columns and helped foreign powers partition Poland. Diversifying and Balkanizing a European nation never ends up with any good results for that nation.

Diversity always leads to Divisiveness for a nation. Its a big Left-wing Lie that Diversity is the "strength" of a nation. At least when its pushed for Politically Correct purposes.

The Wall Street Journal had an article that said in the US (which is suppose to accept diversity) the cities with the most diverse populations were the cities with the most tension and anxiety between neighbors. I can't see why anyone would want that.

USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]

Just pick the ethnic group.

There will always be a certain element of the country that is prejudice against them.

That's because every country has its good and bad people.

Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]


LOL

"nasty volga German blood in them"??????

What does that mean?

I didn't know every Ukrainian had German blood in them.

News / Poland could emerge as new European and world power. If? [116]


Well maybe for first generation European Americans but not for us 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation Americans, etc.

In the US, people of various European ethnic backgrounds have more in common with each other then their ancestors from their various European nations.

Most Italian American, Irish American, Polish American, German Americans only speak English and not the languages of their ancestors. Therefore they feel more comfortable with each other then actually with people back from their family-ancestral lands. We European Americans also pretty much look like each other, except for the Italian Americans....no just kidding lol. Not only that we European Americans have all our American traditions that bind us together.

News / Poland could emerge as new European and world power. If? [116]

I agree with you 100%. The US is a good example of people coming from various European nations working well together once they all acquired the same American culture and traditions. American culture is mainly the American/English language.

Indeed, once people from different European nations put aside their differences and have things in common, like speaking the same language, they are able to produce many European accomplishments. As was and is the case in the making and development of America.

To the degree the EU as an entity contains an atmosphere of EU nations focusing on things in common, ie most of them speak English as an inter-European language, they are all of European genetics, they are proud of being European, etc, this will be the measure that Europeans/the EU will be a force in the world.

This is something that should be strived for and celebrated by Europeans in general.

News / Poland could emerge as new European and world power. If? [116]


Well the reason why I have suggested (among other things) that a European country such as Poland should try to stay homogeneous is to keep the culture of Poland homogenenous so that ethnic squabbles don't come about to undermine the nation, which happened to Poland earlier and is happening to other European countries now.

The United States is a different animal. It was pretty much a given notion that when people from all over the world came to the US they had to INTEGRATE into the US and acquire American CULTURE as soon as possible, ie accept American traditions, speak the language (English), etc. That doesn't mean there weren't ethnic enclaves in the beginning like having little Germanys, little Italys, little Polands, etc. in the US. But the people who made up little Germanys, little Italys, little Polands in the US didn't try to seize American land for their own ethnic interests or try to have Americans cater to them instead of the other way around.

I hate to say it, but the United States will seize to be a power in the world if legal and illegal immigration into the US is unchecked and not stopped. This is because the US CULTURE will fail to be relatively homogenous since all this unchecked immigration will dilute and undermine US CULTURE.

It can not be over emphasized that a HOMOGENEOUS CULTURE is the key to any nation becoming a power. The way to get there is different when comparing European nations to the American nation.

Have you ever heard of Japan? lol

News / Poland could emerge as new European and world power. If? [116]

That's your opinion.

Ukraine has a lot of potential.

But Ukraine does have its problems. First of all its population has gone down from 50 million to 45 million which doesn't help it. Also about 17 million people of Ukraine are a Russian fifth column that are undermining Ukraine.

Like I said before, part of making a country stronger is to make it as homogenous as possible along with making its population younger and bigger.

News / Poland could emerge as new European and world power. If? [116]

That's not true. The core youth population for Nazi Germany was German. The core youth population of Soviet Russia was Russian.

Did you know in 1939, Nazi Germany had 72 million people vs. Poland's 32 million people?

Soviet Union had about 150 million people with at least 110 million being ethnic Russians.

Also I don't know why you bring up Mexico and India. They are not European so they don't have the European mentality. You are comparing Apples and Oranges.

Just name the European country. You give it 150-200 million people.......THAT nation WILL BE A WORLD POWER on all fronts. I'm using an exagerated number to make a point.

Give Portugal, Serbia, Greece, Denmark, POLAND, etc 200 million people and you have a world power trust me. Especially a nation like Poland which has sufferred partly because it was attacked by nations with bigger populations. Especially nations with bigger populations COLLABORATION TOGETHER against Poland......but that's a story for another day.

Do you know that Iran in 1980 only had 22 million people? Do you know today Iran has about 72 million people with an average age population of about 27? That's half the reason why it starting to have the human resources to be able to make bigger and better bombs. Iranians also has a lot of European blood in them.

News / Poland could emerge as new European and world power. If? [116]

Well first things first!

What kind of demographics do you think Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia had? They had HUGE youth populations that could be molded and shaped into producing things and then could be used to create huge armies (which they were used for) which were then used to attack other nations and seize their lands. These nations also used their populations by forcing them into other countries and then seizing chunks of those nations territories.

But I'm not necessarily looking for Poland to attack others.

Poland could become a European power by default. Without firing a shot.

What I mean by that is, as other European nations get old and have failing demographics, especially those European nations that have many minorities in them eating away at those countries, Poland can do well for itself by simply having a growing YOUNG population.

Trust me a nation with good demographics gives that nation a lot of opportunities in all areas. Economically, militarily, you name it.

I would rather have Poland with 45 million people but with an average age of 28 then Germany with 80 million people with an average age of 50.

News / Poland could emerge as new European and world power. If? [116]

The number one way for Poland to increase its odds of becoming a power is to increase its population.

The main reason why the so called powers in Europe are "powers" is because they have relatively large populations.

Nobody would have ever heard about Germany or Russia if they only had 10 or 15 million people.

Also the nations with old dying populations will eventually collapse on themselves especially if they have Balkanizing ethnic mixtures. The more homogenous the nation the better which Poland has going for it.....so far.

All the European nations have dying demographics. The European nations which resist this trend the most will be the powers of the future.

The key to a European nation having strength is to keep the population as homogenous as possible, keep it as young as possible and to keep increasing it. To the extent the reverse of this happens will only weaken these nations.

USA, Canada / Poles and American Poles. What do you think about those two groups and their interactions. [85]

I have never heard the American media refer to Polish Americans as "American polaks". Honest to God.... NEVER. Where do you come of with this nonsense? I could only guess they did that back in the hey day of media bashing of Poles in the 60's and 70's along with their Hollywood/media "Polack jokes".

When they talked about the Polish people at the recent Adamek-Grant fight they called the Polish people "Polish people" basically. When they talk about Martha Stewart they refer to her as a "Polish American".

What bubble do you live in? I have no idea what you're talking about at times. You must live on the streets or something for you to keep using this street language about "polaks" or "Pollacks" in America. Or that anti-Polish jokes come from the word "pole". The degrading 60's and 70's media jokes against Poles came from the word "Polack" not "Poles" from what family members and friends have told me.

Even elements of the American media today that have little sympathy for Polish people don't call Polish people "Polaks" or "Polacks".

I would say 99% of the time American newspapers refer to Polish Americans AS "Polish Americans". They refer to Polish people in Poland as "Poles" and of course the term "Polish people" can be used to describe people of Polish ancestry in any country.

Even elements of the American media today that have little sympathy for Polish people don't call Polish people "Polaks" or "Polacks".

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]


If Poles were killed by communist Poles you can thank the Soviet Union for that. You do realize the Soviet Union is the reason why Communism was forced on Poland?

Marek11111:
after selling Poland down the river

No we don't "all know the price that Poland sold its Ukrainian allies to the USSR" for 59 million Roubles. That's a new one on me.

When did this happen? I didn't know Poland was in that position to do that, especially when it was sold off itself.

Also Poland wasn't sold off in conventional terms. It was sold off in political terms. But you're too much of an anti-Polish Bigot moron to figure that out.

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]

Since you claim to know about this, what was the fashion that Poland got reparations? Was it the Soviet controlled "Polish" government that directed this?

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]


You are right. Poland wasn't in a position to demand being compensated.

But there was nothing to stop Poland from just asking or requesting. Which it never did. Because it was and is a good sport country. Which of course is taken for granted.

Then when Poland does decide to make a peep, it comes across to those who have taken for granted Poland's relative silence, as Poland "making waves" LOL

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]


So you want me to go back to talking about the Nazi subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people? OK

But I thought you didn't like it when I brought that up.

You know, its part of me wanting good German-Polish relations. ;)

USA, Canada / PolAms -- do you regard yourselves only as 'white Americans'? [187]


You mean you never heard any Polish news reports about the lie and slanderous label "Polish Concentration Camps" used in dubious media??? That was not a one day story.

MediaWatch:
How dare they sing the Polish national anthem outside of Poland! LOL


OK..... you got me there.

But then again, sometimes you need some inspirational, motivational music before you eat a big plate of pierogies that might not be done well! :D

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]

LOL

Where did I say I wanted an apology for anything?? LOL

But since you brought up Nazi German atrocities against Poles and Russian Katyn atrocities against Poles, can you tell me, did those Poles killed in these atrocities want to see all Germans or all Russians whiped off the face of the earth?

Just wondering.

Well in my opinion if Germans want to write books, make movies, build memorials to Nazi Germans who were in full support of Hitler's intention of whiping Poles off the face of the earth, be my guest. I believe everyone has a right to their opinion. Evidently expelled Germans have taken for granted the fact that they didn't have done to them (be annihilated) what they wanted to see done to Poles who now they want to feel sorry for them.

Erika Steinbach's relatives were pro-Nazi and chomping at the bit to see Hitler whipe out swaths of Poles and then take their lands. But now those same Poles are suppose to feel sorry for Erika Steinbach and her bunch. Incredible.

Go ahead build memorials, write books about those displaced Nazi Germans who want Poles who they wanted killed, to feel sorry for them now. Talk about trying to have your cake an eat it too. Of course that will only prompt Poles to have memorials and books, ect etc about all the death and destruction Germans rained on Poland that lately Poles have put aside in trying to have good relations with Germany. But hey NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED! LOL

Frankly I think mainstream Poland has been a GOOD SPORT about all the hell Germany put it through. Its not like Poland ever demanded hundreds of billions of dollars from Germany for all the German destruction of Poland not to mention the milliions of Polish lives lost that exceed any monetary value. So a German leader bows down and said he was sorry to Poland one time. Wooptee do.

Go ahead let those German expellees who supported Hitler have their memorials, books, etc.. We'll see how far that will promote German-Polish relations. As you would say it will go "ooooopseeeee". But if that's the mentality of many Germans like you, then frankly German-Polish relations were never meant to be. I heard its not the main German opinion, but I could be wrong.

What next sympathetic books and memorials for those Nazi Germans who supported the SS? Which by the way many of these German expellees supported, especially Erika Steinbach.

This is just another German stunt to take attention away from what Nazi Germans did. Its kind of the same reason why Germans are hypocritically prosecuting an old Ukrainian Mr. Demjanjuk, despite the fact most Germans his age today did similar things as Demjanjuk, but are scott free from German prosecutors.

USA, Canada / PolAms -- do you regard yourselves only as 'white Americans'? [187]


No I am just defending Polish people from lies and slander. You mean to tell me you have never read in the Polish media any stories about Poland or Polish people being slandered and lied about? Oh that's right you don't know any Polish. LOL

Get off of it already you don't live in Poland.

MediaWatch:
Like the Polish anthem says in so many words, where there are Poles/people of Polish ancestry, there is Poland, no matter where Poles are.


Yes technically your interpretation about the song may be correct about Poles not having a homeland and fighting to get it back. But you do know that this song does have a big metaphorical meaning to Poles. How can you not? Its about the Polish underdog fighting spirit.

So since Poles have their land back, according to you Poles should never sing the Polish national anthem anymore to inspire them in whatever endeavor they pursue????

I guess with your logic you would reprimand these Polish Americans for singing the Polish national anthem across the Atlantic Ocean in Newark NJ USA.

How dare they sing the Polish national anthem outside of Poland! LOL

History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]


So Poles are supposed to feel sorry for those Germans expelled from their old homes? You mean the same Germans who would have slept like babies at night had their fueher annihilated all Poles in Poland if he won the war? You got to be kidding me.

USA, Canada / PolAms -- do you regard yourselves only as 'white Americans'? [187]


Sledz,

I think you have me wrong.

I was just pointing out how Americans of various ethnic backgrounds celebrate their ancestry just like Polish Americans. Some of them celebrate their ancestry even more then Polish Americans.

I don't think there is anything wrong with ethnic Americans celebrating their ancestry as long as they always are proud of being an American first. Like I am and I'm sure you are. It can only be a problem when an ethnic group puts its ethnic interest ahead of America.

As for Chicago, I have been there several times. I have never seen the downtown of a big US city with such a big European population. I thought it was cool. It was also much cleaner then many other big US cities I have been to. The people also seemed rather friendly. At least in comparison to Eastern Coast Big cities. Although Boston wasn't too bad lol.

I was a few blocks from the Sears Tower late night at a diner one time and it was interesting to hear Polish being spoken instead of Spanish. Actually in many places in Chicago I heard Polish being spoken which was neat.

As for the Irish, I like them. They look like they have a lot of fun celebrating. If I am not mistaken the Irish came to Chicago a little before the Polish and contributed a lot to building it. Its no coincidence that the Chicago mayors come from the same Irish family.

USA, Canada / PolAms -- do you regard yourselves only as 'white Americans'? [187]


Con Con Con,

This has to be one of the silliest conversations I have had with anyone here.

Where do I even begin?? LOL

Con,

First of all I do and have spoken with Poles in Poland as well as Poles who just came here as well as Polish Americans who are 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation. Granted most of the Polish people I speak with are Poles/Polish Americans here in America since this is where I live. But you do realize I have family and roots from Poland don't you?....for goodness sake. Also as I have said before I do speak some Polish, its just not as good as my Polish. How do you think I read these Polish articles here? LOL

Also as I have said repeatedly now, this forum is not just about Poles in Poland. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? Don't believe me? Just look at all the topics here. WHAT language is this forum in? Hint: Its the language that most Polish people outside of Poland speak LOL

Its about things in general about Poland and Polish people. So according to you, once a Pole and or his family leave Poland they are suppose to not have any interest in their Polish ancestry? For goodness sakes we have millions of Italian Americans, Jewish Americans, African Americans, Irish Americans, etc that love to talk about their interest and pride in their ancestry and these are 4th and 5th generation ethnic Americans.

I already provided youtube videos of how 4th and 5th generation Irish Americans are going through the trouble of coloring the Chicago river GREEN to show their interest and pride in being Irish. Have you ever been to an Italian Columbus Day Parade or Irish Saint Patrick Day Parade in a major US city? I have. These are mostly 3rd 4th 5th generation Italian and Irish Americans respectively in these parades going wild about their ethnic ancestry. Are you going to tell these millions of Italian and Irish Americans to lay off their interest and pride in their ancestry as well??? LOL

Seriously. What Pro-Polish things have I said that have offended you and made you feel so uncomfortable? LOL Was it my support of the Polish soccer players in Germany bringing honor to Germany? Was it my support of Polish born boxer Tomasz Adamek boxing here in the US? Was it my support of that cute Polish tennis player Caroline Wozniacki bringing honor to her nation of Denmark? Which was it? LOL

I've never heard anyone say to somebody else in so many words that there are ONLY CERTAIN things they can do to "help Poles" or Poland or any country for that matter like you do. LOL You're just being silly.

But since you brought up investing in Poland I have invested/donated to charities and hospitals in Poland. Heck I even donated to a Polish kids baseball team. But even if I didn't that doesn't make me any less pro-Polish.

As for my efforts in defending Poles and highlighting the good things people of Polish ancestry do, I don't know any Pole who told me, "NO DON"T DO THAT". "You must invest your time and money in Poland ONLY!" On the contrary, these Poles like what I do. Heck THEY WORK WITH ME AND EGG ME ON!!! LOL!!! How does that grab you??? :D


One of the last things I would accuse Poles in Poland of are "being idiots". I've already seen enough of that kind of Anti-Polish hate propaganda by Poland's enemies. Frankly I think its something that would come out of your mouth much sooner then my mouth. Your pal Delphiodomine who is basically arguing your same argument against me, on many occasions has already called Poles in Poland idiots many times in so many words.

Are you now debating me on behalf of Delphiodomine now?? LOL Its interesting to see how the mention of "Russia" is hitting a nerve with you, just like with Delphiodomine.

One last thing. Check out this video of the Polish national anthem that was sang by Polish Americans in Newark NJ in AMERICA, right before the recent Tomasz Adamek fight.



Like the Polish anthem says in so many words, where there are Poles/people of Polish ancestry, there is Poland, no matter where Poles are.