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Bratwurst Boy   
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

Now THAT is an official site:

auswaertiges-amt.de/diplo/en/Laenderinformationen/01-Laender/Konsularisches/Kindesentziehung.html

European Parliament working document - is it an official document or not?

Manno Nika....look beyond the european flag and the funny name!
You can't be that stupid in reality, can't you?

Polish press loves Germany just as much as German Jugendamts love Polish parents (and Italian, French and American parents as well)

Well...I wonder why we then don't hear more about the abuse of the hundreds of thousands polish kids growing up quite peacefully in Germany (with their polish/mixed parents).

Where did you leave your sense girl?
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

Is it official enough for you BB or do you still maintain that it's only headlines and you don't believe them?

Nika? Do you know what "official" means?
How does an open letter to some politician make a website official???

"The German Jugendamt, a child robbering administration?"

And that statement is a dead giveaway that this site is anything but serious!
Oh and another funny quote from your "official" site!

[quote]...Germans have not wanted to have children for a long time. In order to compensate a demographic catastrophe, German authorities use dishonest

(especially in the face of the fact that millions of immigrants can't wait to get in and bring their brood with them to get more welfare....really no need to "steal" them. Quite to the contrary....we can do what we want they just don't want to get back again!)
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

you call it headlines???!!!! It's CEED - Conseil Européen des Enfants du Divorce / European Council for Parents, children and grandparents victims of international and administrative child abductions.

Where do you think I get this headline from?

The modern JUGENDAMT is a national-socialist-like state organisation.

No, just a headline, nothing official...sorry.

They linked to that article:
michael-hickman.org/eng/eng_docs/hickman_jugendamt.html

Interesting case, isn't it?
Here it's about complaining that the Jugendamt DOES NOT help to take the children away from their mother!

They just can't do anything right, can't they....;)

Oh and what do you say to the accusations of polish misbehaviour in case of abducted children?

Here some link from the UK the polish press is not interested in (no Nazi headlines):
guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/09/children-abduction-kidnapping-uk-data
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

You will find a lot of stories here:

No, I meant the "other side", something from the german media or better even from the Jugendamt or such...frankly I don't believe these headlines!

Not something what starts with:

The modern JUGENDAMT is a national-socialist-like state organisation.

....gimme a break!

The only thing I know for sure is that these kids were taken by the Jugendamt from their polish parents because they were unable to care for them properly.

That's one of the functions of the Jugendamt and they do this independently from the nationality of the family (and save alot of those poor little sods during their work).

The rest of the accusations sounds just fishy if you ask me....
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

That link proves my point, BB.

Only short googling was needed....I really think most countries act the same in this regard and there is more to find.
The children are always the victims when parents fight, but bi-national ones suffer doubly!
Bratwurst Boy   
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]

Uh...now it get's difficult because I lack the english expressions.

But I know that Germany has agreements and treaties with several countries to support each other in such cases where children get "abducted" by one parent into another country.

It would be interesting to know if Poland has such a treaty with Germany too.

Poland or other countries might not have this strange Jugendamt, but IMHO that doesn't mean that they treat foreign parents better than Germany.

kidnapped2poland.org

This site is a support place for victimized parents affected by international parental child abduction to Poland.
The government of Poland has been a silent participant to this crime by not complying with the Hague Convention treaty laws. Statistics speak volume. Since 1995, the time when Poland signed the Hague Convention treaty, no American or Canadian child has returned to his/her home as a result of the actions by the Polish authorities.
On some occasions, desperate parents chose to use self-help to recover their abducted children. Poland is one of the top offenders of the Hague Convention treaty. It is time to change this horrific situation. We hope that you can help us in our struggle. To learn more about the reasons why ... exists

"nasty, nationalist fvckers" all of them!
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Dec 2009
History / Jaruzelski asked Soviets for assistance [51]

Nuremberg has proven that "I was only following orders" is not a valid defence

Well...I wouldn't take Nuremberg as an example. Alot of crimes were invented especially for the trials in Nuremberg...also the "following orders crime".

What is especially mind boggling as ALL armies in the world depend on their soldiers following orders strictly and who punish not doing so severely, during wars with court martial and execution.

Lot's of experts say that this invented "crime" (only for german soldiers of course) never can hold up in reality, nowhere. No coincidence that nobody else got ever trialed for that elsewhere.

There were other such "crimes"....Nuremberg was in big parts a farce with faked evidence (Jew soap) and big ass criminals as judges (the Russians).

....okay...back to the topic... :)
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Heeeey...we were your brothers for over one thousand years too (despite some small short term skirmishes)

We even did lend you one half of Kopernikus (the "Koper"...the "nikus" is definitely german)
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

There is actually one country
in Europe that I consider to be on level par with Poland as regards honour and
magnanimity of spirit.

Ummm...the same Hungarians who were brothers in arms with the Germans in two world wars? ;)

(but I like hungarian goulash too...)

I am like a great Polish lancer, standing proudly, defending my country from
enemies and calumniators and you are like a small, annoying doggy running
around my boots, desperately trying to bite my ankle...

*makes funny grimaces to make stiff polish lancer laugh for a photograph with tourists*
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

In wich country did they reside and where there any inportant countries backing it up? What did USA say to it?

In Berlin they are and the USA can't give a sh*t (as can't most Germans).

deutsches-reich.com

Let's face it...most Germans never had it so good under the Reich as they have it now.
All nutters won't ever have a chance as long as it stays that way...

But I could get a "Reichsführerschein" (Reich driver licencse) if I wanted to (and an identification card as citizen of the german empire)!

deutsches-reich.com/Antrag_Reichsf%FChrerschein_Reichsersonalausweis.pdf
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Show me where the government of Norway surrendered. Or the King for that matter!
Until the King didn't sign a treaty it wasn't valid.

I know what you mean! *nods*

There are people in Germany who still believe the surrender of Germany '45 wasn't legal either...

They still don't acknowledge the Federal Republic...they even give out ID's to (how they say) the only real follower state. *goes looking for link*

Update: Have it!

"Kommissarische Reichsregierung"they call themselves..
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommissarische_Reichsregierung
Bratwurst Boy   
11 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Lies, they tried co operation with highlanders as they saw them as real Poles and the real culture (Goebbels) but the next week the chairmens who was appointed got hanged and it all went down the stray. So don't come with theories who really don't work

Erm...and how does that fit with all this "subhuman"-theory and all Slavs for forced labor work etc. Generalplan Ost?

Do you think Hitler/Himmler made an exception for the Poles? ;)

Norway- Army two different things?

????
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

I don't know. I guess you would have to ask a member of the Polish communist
party what was his/her national identity and allegiance.
Communism is so alien to Polish ethos and identity that I doubt if they did
consider themselves Polish.

I dunno.....millions of people in the Warsaw Pact where members of their communists parties.
I would rather doubt their commitment to the communist ideals as membership in the state party was more or less required in many places but why should they didn't consider themselves polish, german, czech, hungarian or else?

I'm not talking about the real bastards here...but after all settled down becoming a member of such a state party was like nowadays China...all open smiles and behind the back groaning.
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

And yet another Pole trots out the old lie! Why can't you Poles just admit that you were invited but that some of you were too cowardly to come (the eastern command Poles) and some of you thought that you were too special to come (the western command Poles)?

Well...maybe we can put this question down to rest once and for all:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_West#General_history

Yes, the Poles were invited officially (after much pressure it seems).

No, most of the Poles didn't show up for good reasons!

...They in turn refused to attend in protest at similar invitations not being extended to the Polish Army and Navy. The only Polish representative at the parade was Colonel Józef Kuropieska - the military attaché of the Communist regime in Warsaw who attended as a diplomatic courtesy.[4]..

Can we all have a beer now?
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

...yip - makes sense :-)

...that were the Nazis we are talking here! ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goralenvolk

On the whole Himmlers tries to incorporate soldiers from around Europe into his SS were of doubtful success.
In the end the most successfull formations were the german, dutch, scandinavian and french divisions (Leibstandarte, das Reich, Totenkopf, Wiking, Charlemagne etc.) where others from eastern or southern Europe could be more or less smoked in a pipe.

The Goralenvolk were just one of many "disappointments" for him...
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Torq

Hey...not my fault, take it to Himmler...he decided who was German or not, who was Polish or not...crazy guy.

It would had confused people to see so called "subhumans" fighting in the elite formations for a dubious future for their people. I mean what should a Pole had to gain? What should the Nazis had promised him?. ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

Actually, we were...

That would be news! :)

No, Poles weren't. The Goralenvolk weren't seen as Poles by the Nazis...they were seen and treated like Ukrainians for example.
(Himmler thought the Gorale were some old germanic tribe, our "highlanders" so to speak. They became part of the plan to germanize Poland.)

But them and the Ukrainians didn't worked well together (for example at Trawniki)...more hassle for the Germans than anything else...;)
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

well - to say the truth: We are free of this shame.

Well....you weren't asked!
What do you think would had happened if? Do you think in whole Poland there wouldn't had been one volunteer??? ;)
(Especially if you would had been seduced with fighting against the Russians?)

The same with: "We had no Vichy" or "We had no Quisling"...you weren't asked to cooperate officially in the first place.

Poland never got any choice! But if it would had been offered a choice you can't say if there wouldn't had been any kind of cooperation, so stop finger pointing!
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]

To any nationalist maybe they were mine, but as a patriot for me their all stinking traitors and I wouldn't care if they got hanged or tortured.

uhoh...the mouse that roared....;)
Stop judging people...you can't know how you would had ended up!

nuav.net/volunter.html

There were many reasons why a Norwegian volunteer would want to risk his life by going to the front. The most common were:

- Disappointment with the Norwegian armed resistance during the German invasion, and the political circumstances that allowed such a weak and outdated defence policy.

- Disappointment with the King and Government going into exile in the UK, and the feeling of have being betrayed by the British and French during the German invasion.

- The fear of the communist threat from East, and the chance to take part in a "Crusade against Bolshevism"

- The fact that Norway had capitulated, and this was seen by many as the only way to re-build a new national army.