Bratwurst Boy
20 Dec 2009
Bratwurst Boy
20 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]
We are such pushovers, I tell you..
Or you just needed a refresher in german history and achievements...otherwise your surreal statements aren't to understand!
*It's amazing how easy it is to negotiate with Germans. I should apply for a job
in diplomacy corps LOL*
in diplomacy corps LOL*
We are such pushovers, I tell you..
lots of copy and paste BB do you feel insecure with your German nationality
Or you just needed a refresher in german history and achievements...otherwise your surreal statements aren't to understand!
Bratwurst Boy
20 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]
The most of the time Germany was splitted up into more than 300 little statelets, continously fighting each other or being trampled on by the neighbours.
So that argument doesn't count!
He:) Competition is good! It keeps us on the edge! :)
And as we are going to be merged anyhow I would like to see more polish contributions!
Actually I don't want to see 12 years of madness balancing out 1000 years of achievements, sorry....
But for peace sake, okay...draw it is!
Really? I always thought you all call it Grunwald because you don't have the *ü's*
It's easier to be "land of poets and thinkers" when you don't have to constantly
figth Germans invading from the west and Russians from the east (I won't even
mention Austrians, Turks and Swedes :-)).
figth Germans invading from the west and Russians from the east (I won't even
mention Austrians, Turks and Swedes :-)).
The most of the time Germany was splitted up into more than 300 little statelets, continously fighting each other or being trampled on by the neighbours.
So that argument doesn't count!
Objectively looking, I have to say that German positive contribution to mankind
in terms of culture, science and technology has so far been greater than Polish
but we're still in the competition - you just wait ;)
in terms of culture, science and technology has so far been greater than Polish
but we're still in the competition - you just wait ;)
He:) Competition is good! It keeps us on the edge! :)
And as we are going to be merged anyhow I would like to see more polish contributions!
On the other hand, German negative contribution was also significantly higher
than Polish, so let's call it a draw, OK?
than Polish, so let's call it a draw, OK?
Actually I don't want to see 12 years of madness balancing out 1000 years of achievements, sorry....
But for peace sake, okay...draw it is!
Be careful where you put your funny "ü's" - the name is Grunwald! :-)
Really? I always thought you all call it Grunwald because you don't have the *ü's*
Bratwurst Boy
20 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]
PS: Didn't know it was Poland what was called the "land of the poet's and thinkers"!
Rofl Torqi...come on...you could also copy/paste the phone book of Warsaw as far as anyone non-Pole would know these names (and I also doubt Hiphop, rap or black metal should be listed)!
I summarized the international impact of polish achievements already above...
To reason from those few people that Poles deserve a higher standing than Germany is so ridiculous.
Not to mention that this standing must be earned and can not "given"...
International it is...
(But then...you will always have also Vienna and Grünwald) :)
PS: Didn't know it was Poland what was called the "land of the poet's and thinkers"!
A lot of copying and pasting but I'd hate to keep you waiting, BB ;)
Rofl Torqi...come on...you could also copy/paste the phone book of Warsaw as far as anyone non-Pole would know these names (and I also doubt Hiphop, rap or black metal should be listed)!
I summarized the international impact of polish achievements already above...
To reason from those few people that Poles deserve a higher standing than Germany is so ridiculous.
Not to mention that this standing must be earned and can not "given"...
I simply don't
see Polish contribution to mankind to be as "scarce" as only Kopernik, Szopen,
Skłodowska-Curie or John Paul II :-)
see Polish contribution to mankind to be as "scarce" as only Kopernik, Szopen,
Skłodowska-Curie or John Paul II :-)
International it is...
(But then...you will always have also Vienna and Grünwald) :)
Bratwurst Boy
20 Dec 2009
Bratwurst Boy
20 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]
You got the all new borders from the Soviets? Most people from Lvov live now in Breslau?
Imagine them going back to Lvov...can Germans come back to Breslau?
;)
I don't any connection whatsoever between acquired German territories after WWII and Poland's lands stolen by Soviets.
You got the all new borders from the Soviets? Most people from Lvov live now in Breslau?
Imagine them going back to Lvov...can Germans come back to Breslau?
Of course you wouldn't.
;)
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Photos from the hunt for the thieves:
spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-49970.html
Photos from the hunt for the thieves:
spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-49970.html
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
I know that Seanie! ;)
I was interested in the exchange with Euros...
PLN, Zloty, Polish money.
I know that Seanie! ;)
I was interested in the exchange with Euros...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
What's that in Euros?
115 thousand PLN
What's that in Euros?
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Yeah...."Kurwa Na Zdrowie"...sure...
Yeah...."Kurwa Na Zdrowie"...sure...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
What would be the polish expression for "Arbeit macht frei" ?
Just crass! :(
It isn't Polands nor anybody elses fault...
The Polish Government took the sign because government workers are so lazy, and this will be a reminder for them...Put it up in front of some Bureau.
What would be the polish expression for "Arbeit macht frei" ?
I found the reactions coming from Israel quite a bit over the top, I must admit.
Just crass! :(
It isn't Polands nor anybody elses fault...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Now it's Poland vs Israel??? ;)
No....wait...it must read Germany vs Israel! It was a german camp after all..
Now it's Poland vs Israel??? ;)
No....wait...it must read Germany vs Israel! It was a german camp after all..
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Manno...this tension is killing me! :)
Hopefully we will know soon...
Yes, I read about one but it didn't catch anything...
Manno...this tension is killing me! :)
Hopefully we will know soon...
What i wnat to know is were there any cameras on it?
Yes, I read about one but it didn't catch anything...
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
As I read about it I got the impression that it was quite easy as Auschwitz isn't secured.
There is even talk about an inside job...help from someone who works FOR the museum!
I doubt that even more, the tools involved, the method of transport, all had to be planned with precision as capture would mean prison.
As I read about it I got the impression that it was quite easy as Auschwitz isn't secured.
There is even talk about an inside job...help from someone who works FOR the museum!
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Honestly I doubt that....I rather think about a prank by some idiots!
With Neo-Nazis there should be some political gain behind it and I can't see any.
They must stay hidden, the rather useless sign must stay hidden...nothing to show for the "cause" at all.
But I can see a group of drunken yobs sitting right now giggling in some pub and enjoying all this international media bruhaha!
The only people that would want it would be Neo-Nazis though, no?
As you mentioned before, it'd be reported if it were just rich people.
I am of course just speculating, I can't see anyone else bragging about it.
As you mentioned before, it'd be reported if it were just rich people.
I am of course just speculating, I can't see anyone else bragging about it.
Honestly I doubt that....I rather think about a prank by some idiots!
With Neo-Nazis there should be some political gain behind it and I can't see any.
They must stay hidden, the rather useless sign must stay hidden...nothing to show for the "cause" at all.
But I can see a group of drunken yobs sitting right now giggling in some pub and enjoying all this international media bruhaha!
Bratwurst Boy
19 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Well, I'm just guessing...
But I doubt all those Poles, Jews, Russians and others from everywhere about to killed as the Holocaust started seriously could understand enough german to appreciate this saying, so I doubt it was meant for them!
Notice that the sign is placed to be read from the outside.
Well, I'm just guessing...
But I doubt all those Poles, Jews, Russians and others from everywhere about to killed as the Holocaust started seriously could understand enough german to appreciate this saying, so I doubt it was meant for them!
Bratwurst Boy
18 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Not in the beginning, no...
Besides the "enemy of the state" most criminals (under Nazi law) got normally sentenced.
So even if one was sentenced to 10 years of hard labour in say....Dachau...he could expect to come free afterwards.
I think that's why they put this saying at the gates...it was surely also sold as a kind of re-education for "asocial elements" (under Nazi law that is).
Meaning some time hard labour and he is all new and again a proper member of our new Volksgemeinschaft!
Didn't had the Soviets similiar usings for their Gulags? And now the North Korean....or the Chinese...
I suspect they put people there who they expected to work to death.
Not in the beginning, no...
Besides the "enemy of the state" most criminals (under Nazi law) got normally sentenced.
So even if one was sentenced to 10 years of hard labour in say....Dachau...he could expect to come free afterwards.
I think that's why they put this saying at the gates...it was surely also sold as a kind of re-education for "asocial elements" (under Nazi law that is).
Meaning some time hard labour and he is all new and again a proper member of our new Volksgemeinschaft!
Didn't had the Soviets similiar usings for their Gulags? And now the North Korean....or the Chinese...
Bratwurst Boy
18 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
I'm not sure if I'm honest...not even that it was meant as a mockery.
You mustn't forget it started out as a labor camp for criminals (under Nazi law that is).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp
I thought it was there because, at first, people could earn their freedom through work, and that changed...
I'm not sure if I'm honest...not even that it was meant as a mockery.
You mustn't forget it started out as a labor camp for criminals (under Nazi law that is).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp
....
The camp was initially used for interning German criminals, then Polish intellectuals and resistance movement members, then also for Soviet Prisoners of War. Common German criminals, "anti-social elements" and 48 German homosexuals were also imprisoned there...
The camp was initially used for interning German criminals, then Polish intellectuals and resistance movement members, then also for Soviet Prisoners of War. Common German criminals, "anti-social elements" and 48 German homosexuals were also imprisoned there...
Bratwurst Boy
18 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Not really!
Like the Swastika it became notorious because of the holocaust but it's just another german saying like "Jedem das Seine" or similiar...
I'm not sure why they put it up there...probably because Auschwitz was planned and used as labor camp first before it became a death camp after the Wannsee conference...
the sign was a cruel irony
Not really!
Like the Swastika it became notorious because of the holocaust but it's just another german saying like "Jedem das Seine" or similiar...
I'm not sure why they put it up there...probably because Auschwitz was planned and used as labor camp first before it became a death camp after the Wannsee conference...
Bratwurst Boy
18 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
They have put a copy up...
Oh well...I'll come back ;)
They have put a copy up...
Bratwurst Boy
18 Dec 2009
News / The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland [240]
Ooooh pleeeeaaaaase....
This Edelstein guy published yesterday in JP an opinion that declares ANY and EVERY criticism on Israel as new antisemitism...as in: "the whole world is bad and against us innocents lambs because they are all mean anti-semites".
What do you expect?
It's not even clear yet that the thieves are polish....
"this is one the Polish police's biggest failures,"
Ooooh pleeeeaaaaase....
This Edelstein guy published yesterday in JP an opinion that declares ANY and EVERY criticism on Israel as new antisemitism...as in: "the whole world is bad and against us innocents lambs because they are all mean anti-semites".
What do you expect?
It's not even clear yet that the thieves are polish....
Bratwurst Boy
16 Dec 2009
History / What British unit liberated Poland in 1945?? [445]
Because Germany was the baddie and the Soviets were the chums back then...remember?
Without them you would still be under Hans Franks boot...
Why was an illegitimite Soviet goverment recognized? The international community should have recognized Hans Frank as the Polish President then also, no?
Because Germany was the baddie and the Soviets were the chums back then...remember?
Without them you would still be under Hans Franks boot...
Bratwurst Boy
16 Dec 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]
Here you have the secret reason why the people did run away screaming once they got a good view of the Wehrmacht!
Here you have the secret reason why the people did run away screaming once they got a good view of the Wehrmacht!
Bratwurst Boy
15 Dec 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]
Of course I would make the best!
(But we need to talk about that BAVARIAN Lederhosen-thingy...no prussian true blood would ever show his calf like THAT!)
He could work for Panslavia as a helmet maker.
Of course I would make the best!
(But we need to talk about that BAVARIAN Lederhosen-thingy...no prussian true blood would ever show his calf like THAT!)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]
Well, be that as it may....this Hickman is a special nasty work of art.
I start to understand why his wife left him....if he run amok at the court like this no wonder he never had a chance...better for the children though!
Well, be that as it may....this Hickman is a special nasty work of art.
I start to understand why his wife left him....if he run amok at the court like this no wonder he never had a chance...better for the children though!
Bratwurst Boy
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]
You don't get sarcasm either, don't you...
You don't get sarcasm either, don't you...
Bratwurst Boy
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]
That is still nothing officially Nika, it's a petition from one of the 10 parents...
If you were smart you would take ANYTHING written by those people with a heavy helping of salt...to much crap!
Great! I started to feel bad....
;)
Here is the link to a EU parliament report:
That is still nothing officially Nika, it's a petition from one of the 10 parents...
If you were smart you would take ANYTHING written by those people with a heavy helping of salt...to much crap!
You don't have to take me seriously BB I can perfectly live with that, do not be sorry.
Great! I started to feel bad....
;)
Bratwurst Boy
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]
Well...yes, I can!
When you take such slander for "official" or seemingly have no problems with those accusations then I can't take you serious either, sorry!
I simply disagree with you and this does not give you the right to insult me.
Well...yes, I can!
When you take such slander for "official" or seemingly have no problems with those accusations then I can't take you serious either, sorry!
Bratwurst Boy
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]
Actually I don't care about them...
I can't take them seriously anymore after all this ridiculous/vicious slander against german institutions (and therefore also against Germany).
You've got to be kidding!
They like to put us into the Nazi corner? Well...
10 parents Nika, and such a huge title!
What a fuss they make....crazy ****! :)
Hmmm....the main accuser, one Mr. Hickman seems to be the one liking to link the Jugendamt with Nazi institutions like the Lebensborn...interesting!
Especially as his case
michael-hickman.org/eng/eng_docs/hickman_jugendamt.html
is a case of his children living by their mother now, in Germany.
I wonder what country would "steal" the children from their mother??? Hmm...
How would a polish institution decide?
smh.com.au/national/child-abduction-polish-court-decides-sydney-boys-fate-20091206-kcyv.html
was not created in order to fight against German law BB.
Actually I don't care about them...
I can't take them seriously anymore after all this ridiculous/vicious slander against german institutions (and therefore also against Germany).
Petition of 10 parents
The institution known as JUGENDAMT of the Federal Republic of Germany is to be declared an illegal institution of the European Union
The institution known as JUGENDAMT of the Federal Republic of Germany is to be declared an illegal institution of the European Union
You've got to be kidding!
They like to put us into the Nazi corner? Well...
Conseil Européen des Enfants du Divorce / Parents, children and grandparents victims of international and administrative child abductions
10 parents Nika, and such a huge title!
What a fuss they make....crazy ****! :)
Hmmm....the main accuser, one Mr. Hickman seems to be the one liking to link the Jugendamt with Nazi institutions like the Lebensborn...interesting!
Especially as his case
michael-hickman.org/eng/eng_docs/hickman_jugendamt.html
is a case of his children living by their mother now, in Germany.
I wonder what country would "steal" the children from their mother??? Hmm...
How would a polish institution decide?
smh.com.au/national/child-abduction-polish-court-decides-sydney-boys-fate-20091206-kcyv.html
Bratwurst Boy
13 Dec 2009
News / Polish & other children legally stolen from their parents in Germany [82]
That's what I meant!
Both websites are from and for groups of people who have grievances, one against german law and the other against polish....
Doubtless there are lot's of more groups and even websites concerning many other countries too.
The whole soddy case of child abduction by one parent is an ugly business world wide and not limited to Poland/Germany!
But "official" they are not!
Another funny quote...Didn't it get any more dramatic???
Well....I am not (stupid that is)!
But when you really believe all that stuff and these headlines I can't help you...
And the organisation that I quoted is nothing less offiacial than the one that you did BB.
That's what I meant!
Both websites are from and for groups of people who have grievances, one against german law and the other against polish....
Doubtless there are lot's of more groups and even websites concerning many other countries too.
The whole soddy case of child abduction by one parent is an ugly business world wide and not limited to Poland/Germany!
But "official" they are not!
Another funny quote...Didn't it get any more dramatic???
And by the way, I am not insulting you and calling you stupid.
Well....I am not (stupid that is)!
But when you really believe all that stuff and these headlines I can't help you...