Work / Hungarian guy looking for job - planing to become a student at Politechnika Gdanska [13]

@oquith

Your Hungarian will help you get a job in a BPO, and, obviously, for a Hungarian company doing business in Poland. English will help, too.

Actually, the best opportunity may be to get a job with a Hungarian trucking company hauling goods to and from the many logistics centers around Łódź. You could base yourself in Łódź, which, while not a pretty city by any measure, is conveniently close to Warsaw and is a good centrally located base to explore the rest of the country. It might be worth taking a course and picking up a truck driving license. Probably pays more than a BPO job with your level of experience.

I did meet some Hungarians in Poland who were truck drivers hauling furniture from the Black Red White warehouse in Rawa Mazowiecka. Don't know if they were employees of Black Red White, or of some Hungarian company.

Start networking in the trucker world, and scope out the opportunities that may be available to you.

Work / Hungarian guy looking for job - planing to become a student at Politechnika Gdanska [13]

@oquith

You'll probably find some sort of work in a BPO. The pay won't be great, and the job probably not all that interesting. But you'll get by for long enough to get acquainted with the country and satisfy your curiosity. Your Russian will help you pick up a little Polish.

My advice is to secure a job before you come. If you can, try to find one with a Hungarian company doing business in Poland.

Good luck!

Work / Salary expectation for a Junior java developer in Krakow / Warsaw Poland? [17]

@Gross4000

2853 PLN a month.

That's probably not worth moving to Poland for. Your savings would be very low. No more than a very minimal rainy day fund. If that.

Where are you from?

Work / Help me out for getting Work permit in Poland [3]


That's not how it works. You get a job with a Polish company while you are still in Bangladesh, then the company that hires you gets a work permit for you. The chances are very low that you will be able to find a job if you just show up in Poland. You will almost certainly not even be granted a visa unless you already have a job lined up before you leave Bangladesh.

What kind of work were you expecting to find?

Work / Offer of 12k zloty enough in Warsaw? [10]

2700 PLN a month and up to 4000 or more for a very nice one in a prime location. All inclusive: rent, administration fees and all utilities except


Nor really. There are costs for renting a cheaper apartment that may exceed the money you save. For example, the apartment may have bad windows, which will increase you heating bill. Or it might have a very small and inconvenient kitchen, which means you might eat away from home more. Or it might night be well connected to your place of work, which means that you will have a long commute (particularly nasty in winter). Or it might not have a good selection of shops in the immediate area, which means you might have to spend a lot of time doing your shopping, or spend money on taxis. Or have to get a car. Or you might have bad neighbors. Or any of many possible reasons.

Generally, if an apartment is "cheap". there is usually a good reason for that. If you want to save on housing, then there are two possibilities. The first is downgrading to a two-room (one-bedroom) apartment. The second is to live in a very well connected place far outside of the city. Skierniewice, for example, has excellent and frequent high-speed rail connections to the center of Warsaw, and housing costs are much, much lower. Granted, it is a boring provincial town. But it's a good place if you want to live a quiet life.

Also, when looking for an apartment, it is absolutely vital that you enlist the help of an OLDER, experienced native Polish coworker or colleague. They know what to look for, and they know about transportation connections in the city. They can also negotiate with the landlord. Having the help of an OLDER, experienced native Pole will save you heaps of time and money.

Work / Relocate to Lodz Poland [30]

@AlbimKrug

That's 2500 PLN a month net. Hardly worth coming to Poland for. Yes, you will struggle. You will have to rent a room in a shared apartment, and even then, your savings will be dangerously minimal. If you are from outside the EU, you will have trouble breaking even, taking your travel and relocation costs into account.

Law / Questions on Civil Wedding Ceremony in Poland- Do we get the certificate on the day? [25]

It is if you want your marriage to be recognized in the Philippines.

Language / Inanimate vs animate nouns in Polish language [16]

@Lyzko

It doesn't get any clearer than that. Don't know what you were expecting.

Language / Inanimate vs animate nouns in Polish language [16]

@mafketis

Yes, that does make a bit of a mess out of it.

Language / Inanimate vs animate nouns in Polish language [16]

@Lyzko

There are six genders in Polish: four in the singular and two in the plural, to whit, masculine animate (with facultatives), masculine inanimate, feminine and neuter; and virile and non-virile. These correspond to the six possible sets of pronomial and adjectival endings that agree with the noun in question. If you think of it that way, the rules are very simple and easy to apply.

If you think of Polish as having three genders, you will soon get confused. The rules will be very complicated, and you will find them difficult, and sometimes impossible, to apply.

Life / Selling car for scrap in Poland [7]

@WielkiPolak

In the States, I would buy beaters, and whenever I had to get rid of them, I would call a Jewish charity and donate it. They would give me a receipt for the blue book "good condition" value. The tax write off was close to what I originally paid for the car, and much more than the car was worth at the time of donation.So essentially, my cars were for free as I recovered the cost when I got rid of them.

The charity ran a program for disadvantaged inner-city youth, where they taught them how to repair these cars. They then resold them to disadvantaged inner-city residents.

I would be surprised if something similar does not exist in Poland. Contact church charities like Caritas and see if you can find a similar program.

Language / Inanimate vs animate nouns in Polish language [16]

@Lyzko

You're misunderstanding what grammatical gender is. It has to do with patterns of agreement between nouns and the grammatical forms of their associated adjectives and pronouns. Think of gender that way, and you won't get confused. If you think of grammatical gender in terms of sex, you will get confused. While they may overlap, they are really two very different concepts.

A lot of time is wasted by those learning highly inflected languages like Polish or Latin by failing to distinguish the difference between gender, sex, and declension. And by teachers who don't know the difference themselves.

Study / I'm thinking to study in the Wrocław University of Science and Technology [55]


I agree that earning a degree at a good engineering school in Turkey and getting a few years experience there makes more sense than getting a degree from an English-language course in Poland or any other of the poorer countries of the EU if your ultimate goal is to move to the UK or the US. The utility of studying or working in Poland as a "stepping stone" to landing a job in richer countries is vastly overrated and oversold to the point of becoming a bit of a scam, or, in many cases, an outright scam.

Law / What if a foreigner doesnt want to get retired in Poland ? Retirement money back? [16]

Then that person at ZUS was mistaken:

Here is the applicable law in English:

eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32004R0883R(01)

and in Polish:

eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/PL/TXT/?uri=celex:32004R0883R(01)

Law / What if a foreigner doesnt want to get retired in Poland ? Retirement money back? [16]

Yes, Switzerland is included in the agreement. You'll have to ask at your ZUS office about the procedure.

Real Estate / BEST Poland's city to Invest in?? Warsaw, Wroclaw, Krakow, Poznan, Gdansk or...? [34]


Seeing that you are totally clueless and utterly ignorant about the market, about the same as you would get if you were to flush the money down the toilet, and quite well possibly even less.

Love / Are Polish people very family oriented? [17]

@Atch

Have you considered that he might not have been sure about his long-term plans himself? Or that he did, in fact, tell her and she completely ignored it?

Life / Confirming Poland's citizenship required, but have Polish Birth Certificate? Born in the US. [5]

@zazak

You do what they tell you to do, hassle or not. It's either their way, or the highway. Actually, I think the process is pretty clear and straightforward,and far from a hassle considering the gravity of the matter. If you have any serious questions, speak to someone at the embassy or consulate. But don't waste your time and theirs by asking about shortcuts and workarounds. There aren't any.

Polish bureaucrats are a pleasure to work with if you have all of your ducks in a row. So make sure that you do.

Love / Are Polish people very family oriented? [17]

@Atch

Acually, Atch, I get the impression that the OP made unjustified hopeful assumptions on her own initiative, and heard only those things that could somehow support those assumptions, totally ignoring anything that conflicted with them. I 'm not sure that this guy was "dishonest" with her, except perhaps to indulge her fantasy.

She built a castle on sand. Hard to blame the sand for the fact that the castle fell down. She had plenty of warning signs that she chose to ignore. She is mostly to blame for the situation she got herself into.

Life / Confirming Poland's citizenship required, but have Polish Birth Certificate? Born in the US. [5]


No. You have to get a certificate of confirmation of Polish citizenship from the Wojewód before you can apply for a passport.

It's all explained here:

waszyngton.msz.gov.pl/en/waszyngton_us_a_en_consular_information_2/waszyngton_us_a_298

Genealogy / Krysiewicz, Sobieski, and Grohocki - Polish family history [3]

@toddkry

Krysiewicz means "son of Krzysztof", or "Christopher". This name is very specific for the area immediately surrounding Białystok, as seen on this map:

moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/krysiewicz.html

Grochocki comes from Groch, which means "peas" (the vegetable). It is more spread out throughout Poland. Grohocki is a English spelling.

moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/grochocki.html

Sobieski is a famous historical name that every Pole recognizes because it was held by one of their kings:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Sobieski

It's a very old surname, and comes from the name of the town of Sobieszyn in eastern Poland, but most popular in Mazowia in northeastern Poland.

moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/sobieski.html

All of the names are very Polish names, and there is no reason to look for Lithuanian roots unless you have firm documentary evidence to prove otherwise. Lithuanian vs. Polish vs. Ruthenian ethnicity is a very, very complicated topic that you need not bother with at the moment.

Food / Polish sausage preparation [4]

@Jimmylad89

There are lots of kinds of Polish sausages. Some are cooked and meant to be eaten cold. If you're not sure whether yours is cooked, you can always steam for about 20 to 30 min in a covered frying pan with a little water in it.

Study / I'm thinking to study in the Wrocław University of Science and Technology [55]


True. That is, until the day before yesterday, when all hell broke loose. There has been a major diplomatic incident that has really soured relations between the US and Turkey. Things are getting nasty, and neither country is granting visas to citizens of the other country, and probably won't for quite some time.

The story is developing. Just type turkey diplomatic into Google news to follow the latest updates.

This is the latest article at this point in time:

reuters.com/article/us-usa-turkey-security/turkeys-erdogan-blames-u-s-envoy-for-diplomatic-crisis-idUSKBN1CF0XR

Work / Poland IT jobs websites? [22]

The best jobs are advertised face to face, person to person, in the real world. The recruiters and internet sites get the table scraps, so forget about them. If you want to get a good job at a decent wage, in Poland or elsewhere, then expand and exploit your network of real-world contacts to conduct a proper job search.

Work / How much salary should I ask for IT Business Analysts in Wroclaw ? [17]


That was a low blow and uncalled for. And totally off the mark. I'm a rather leftie liberal democrat. I give the same advice regardless of skin color.

please let's get back on topic

Law / Questions on Civil Wedding Ceremony in Poland- Do we get the certificate on the day? [25]

@Kalson155

No. You would have to go the Philippine embassy in Warsaw and file a Report of Marriage of a Filipino Abroad. The procedure will be similar to this:

philippineconsulatela.org/consular-services-2/civil-registry-2/report-of-marriage-of-a-filipino-abroad

Work / How much salary should I ask for IT Business Analysts in Wroclaw ? [17]


I lived there twelve years, eight years in Wrocław, until three years ago. So don't pull that $hit with me. 3500 PLN will barely cover the living expenses of a rather monkish single foreign male. I'm a rather monkish single male. With no savings. Hell, I'm a rather monkish single male, and I was spending more than 3500 PLN on living expenses alone.

A foreign couple with child would be living at poverty level on 3500 PLN a month. That's just plain ridiculous. Even at 6000 PLN, it's not going to be any party. Tolerable, yes, but not the high life, by amy means.


Who said anything about work permits? Not I. They will have to pay for their residency permits, though. And their visas. And documents with translation. And airfare. And trips to and from the embassy. And hotels, if any. And shipping, if any.

If they get relocation expenses, great. But I wouldn't count my chickens until they are hatched. If the company does not give them an allowance for relocation expenses, then it has to come out of their income in Poland, one way or another.


You're not going to do very much better than 2200 PLN a month all inclusive (rent, administration fees and all utilities except phone/internet/TV) for a one-bedroom apartment in Wrocław that's suitable for a family and with good access to public transportation. Anything much cheaper is going to be dodgy, have hidden expenses (like bad windows or an impractically small kitchen), or be very inconvenient in terms of transportation. And that's for a basic apartment, 60 meters, not anything luxurious.


Everybody has "a friend" that got a good deal somehow. I have a friend who won big on the lottery. Again, these are exceptional cases and the OP can't count on such luck, especially as a newbie foreigner who doesn't speak a word of Polish and knows nothing about the city or the local culture.

Genealogy / Searching for my father's relatives. Family names of Foroszowski and Makar in Moczary, near Jalowe. [4]


No such thing exists. That would be illegal in Poland. Use Google and Facebook. How good is your Polish?


You would need solid documentation to determine that.


Ethnic identity in that region was very complicated and not clear-cut. Three brothers could identify with three different ethic groups, and often did. It may be impossible to determine with people who are no longer alive.

Work / IT Project Manager Position in Poland [2]

@Visitor618

Being coy is not going to help you get any useful information. Where are you from? What degrees, qualifications and skills do you have? What are you intending to study? Say more about your job. Do you speak Polish, and how well? What are your long-term goals? Are you single or married, and do you have kids? And why, specifically, Poland?

The more you tell us, the more we can tell you.

Work / How much salary should I ask for IT Business Analysts in Wroclaw ? [17]

@PrinceDidier

I agree. Wages like that are usually for senior positions with some management or technical specialist experience.

Also, I made a mistake and thought this guy was from India, not Turkey. The cost of travel, relocation, visas and permits will therefore be somewhat less than I said above, depending on airfare.