Life / How Long Before Poland Has Its 'Dumbest Generation'? [84]


I'm using IQ tests, but taking results with caution.
It is useful for what and how it was made, again comparing ppl same age, same culture. Those instruments were not made to do anything MORE than that, and they can't do more. Still.

So, my basic complain here is abuse of it, using the instruments for purposes they were not made for.

I believe there is some biological foundation, some environmental (family) influence, education influence, and so on.

People here are trying to use some EXACT measures ( like IQ 78, IQ 150) comparing for example Chinese with Albanians in a way it is not possible yet. It's not a measure like meter or kilogram.

That is the problem.
Also, because of the fact that underprivileged ppl, born in families with low incomes, hence less close to good education will score less and maybe they have more potential than most, I don't have high opinion about whole idea.

It's helping the system in a way that those who are on the bottom keeps there, privileged ones getting again via organizations like MENSA or obligatory testing again more.

Hey good example are test for job applicants, if HR takes the score as a unquestionable measure of abilities he will maybe miss hiring somebody who scored less because of bad life circumstances , but who could be faster learning and more valuable worker.

Life / How Long Before Poland Has Its 'Dumbest Generation'? [84]


Perfectly wrong.
What are you measuring? What power, where is it, what is it depending on, how much of that concept is given by nature, how much is developed, and what are the consequences of having some IQ score in your personal achievements?


I said the same thing in some previous posts.
The best operational definition of IQ is that is the thing IQ instruments are measuring. The end.
It's a sh1tty and pretty empty concept. Based solely on comparison beetween people your age in your culture. that number is giving just your position in your age group in your country, where instrument was previously standardized.


I know that, learned that in studies.

Look above. there are few explanations for that, but for me it's one more proof not to take it to seriously.

Southern, to me it looks like you are putting the equal sign between brightness and IQ. They are different. One is an amateur concept, we all feel that some people are smart, but what will the instrument say can be problematic because it includes knowledge we got through education, so person who maybe ( not measurable still) has better given abilities will score less than somebody educated and maybe not so fast in processing inf.

How much is persons IQ depending on early development circumstances, how much on biological traits?
It's a thin ice, nobody can give you solid answer still.

GIVE UP IQ!


Without being at least a little bit familiar with the instruments, you don't have basis for supporting the concept of IQ.
Again, the score is showing your position within your age gruop in your country. That' s it.

There are many theories of intelligence, what is it made of, it's all more or less bla, bla.

We all have our implicit theories of what it is, so don't hold on just to the official story.

We can all share here our ideas about what it is, but it doesn't have anything to do with IQ from scientific standpoint, as it is conceptualized and used now.

Life / How Long Before Poland Has Its 'Dumbest Generation'? [84]


that is your personal observation, i guess?

It has again nothing to do with the fact that today it is IMPOSSIBLE with tests that exist to make those comparisons.

Or you know some test I'm not aware of?

different cultures value different skills, or competences. In western societies skills that are related to technological field are higher ranked than f.e. social skills.

Most of the tests originate from West, and you are using that as a measurement too. It's one of the many possibilities, it has to do with culture that's directing ppl to develop different for that community important skills.

I noticed that Russians f.e. value verbal skills more and creativeness (which is not measured in those tests at all), so their more successful ppl are good at that f.e.

Life / How Long Before Poland Has Its 'Dumbest Generation'? [84]


"...Intelligence is always measured relative to a particular culture; "culture free" tests of intelligence do not exist...."
Every psychologist knows that fact. Medical professionals don't know sh1t about creation, usage and possible interpretation of any IQ tests and results that exist and shouldn't deal with something they are not educated for.

Mister Lynn didn't invent anything new, those eugenic psychologists were babbling before about same things. Richard Lynn just follows those...

schonemann.de/eugenics.html

Scientific community sees that as an abuse of science for more political goals (usually it's about supremacy of white race, right wing).

Maybe it is like that, but because it was proven that even MENSA test is failing on city /village as culture free test (also the other like Raven's progressive matrices, Lynn I think is using, or some type of it), today with instruments that are available it is still NOT POSSIBLE to make those conclusions (you can but it has nothing to do with science;)).

psychologicaltesting.com/iqtest.htm

It's already getting boring. Comparisons between cultures ARE NOT POSSIBLE.

Read the article, it's about most reliable and used IQ test in clinical practice.

Each country has it's form of Wechsler's tests (similar, but in few subscales different Q's, and after standardization different norms) so questions are different in Serbia and f.e. Germany. I had an American guy who came for testing, he was raised in USA (born in Serbian family that migrated), spoke Serbian enough to communicate but I couldn't use Serbian version of test, or Serbian norms to categorize him, because he was raised in a different culture, and he can only be compared to his American, not Serbian peers. If I was like Lynn I could say using Serbian norms that he had borderline intelligence, but he didn't, he was compared to Americans (test has different questions) guy with the average IQ.

That is how it is supposed to be done.

COMPARING WITHIN A CULTURE HE STEMS FROM AND WITH PEOPLE OF HIS AGE. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF IQ.

Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]

At least it's not an electrified leash. Germans have those. But they are for men ;)
And the Serbian owners are generous unlike Germans.

Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]


I see that Balkan has one list.


Big boobs and nice lower back with good legs are in negative correlation.
Women bodies can have only one center of mass.

"The center of mass or mass center is the mean location of all the mass in a system. In the case of a rigid body, the position of the center of mass is fixed in relation to the body. In the case of a loose distribution of masses ...."

This loose distribution is again a NO NO!


I understand. There is no second date, so this rule had to be removed;)

I forgot one thing, she has to be skilled in all sexual disciplines (previous experience with 3 to 5 partners who's names will never be mentioned).

More than 5, 6 is called a "walking disease (carrier of STD's)", less than 3 " piece of wood, meadow (passive)," etc.

I have to say after doing all on the list they are very grateful and rewards are generous and frequent.

Serbs have, thanks to international isolation, succeeded in slowing down the deconstruction of male/female roles.
So, for women who crave for a dominant over self confident macho good looking guys Belgrade is still a good choice.
No insecurity here.

After those pics nobody will read what I wrote:(

Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]


Not possible. Her narrative is a no no here. Disqualifying.
After pulling investment from talking to just looking stunning, she would be taken as a serious mating partner. Selection is very strict here.

Belgrade sex/ relationship guide:

Musts:

1. 170-180 cm tall (175 is preferable)
2. good legs and rear part
3. slim and fit
4. silent
5. pretty
6. good hair (long)
7. always styled for covers of a decent family type magazines (make up, but not too visible, she has to look like she made herself look like that in 5 min, while actually army of beauty experts were running around her for hours)

8. acting joy while in a submissive role
9. age 25-28

Basically she has to look like high profile (well educated) prostitute who is still a virgin. I don't know how they manage that here, but it's common.

Not allowed:

1. big boobs (considered primitive, good for f*ck , but not considered as a serious option)
2. hint of feminism
3. too much talking, being well informed, but not to loud about it
4. sex or petting on the first date, she has to pretend she doesn't want it at all, and never had it before (basically she has to burn out till his first move, usually a week or two)

5. talking about previous relationships is ending communication, for eternity
6. she can not complain when he is staring at other women in her presence

If all requirements are fulfilled she can choose.
If something is missing then she will get a lousier exemplar.

They know (and have) very efficient ways (and means) of calming upset and unsatisfied women ;)

Crow can make corrections if necessary.

Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]


Torq were you ever in Greece?
You are showing now that you don't have a problem to believe in simplest and dumbest stereotype about Greeks there is.

Macro level, economy
Think.
Who are the biggest thieves on this planet?

Micro level, honesty and stealing
I would advice you to question your prejudices using contact and experience with greek ppl.
They are really nice and honest.
At least those I had a pleasure to meet during a month I spent there.

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]


I heard those stories from old people from Vojvodina.
In the trucks to nowhere.

Anyway Russians are quite fearless without vodka I think, although I didn't meet many who were not drunk or drugged. I spent one month with Russians who were mostly young artists, so I probably had inadequate sample. I felt like I'm in Bulgakov's novel. Super interesting nightmare.

It seems that they developed some tolerance to those substances because most of them even when heavily intoxicated had capacities to think quite clear.
One guy told me that his professor in directing school asked him will he ever have an opportunity to meet him at least half conscious. He finished 2 faculties with psychoactive substances in his blood.

I ran away, I couldn't manage that pressure to intoxicate myself.
But it was the time of my life anyway. Great experience.

Amazing people.

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]

Communists are now guilty for many things, but for alcoholism they are surely not.

maybe type of drink, vodka?

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]


Who isn't mentally challenged when he is drunk? ;)

I don't believe in that story (slow movements, lousy coordination, coal mine worker?). But I'm willing to reconsider:)

Where did you get that information?

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]

Compared to this Russian here, hardly anybody has problems.

youtu.be/3RJXP1tfSBM

Love / Polish girls fall for Indian guys ? [217]


As a very satisfied consumer of mentioned goods I can't allow this;)

Balkan power in Southerns sense. They have other flaws, but that segment of life is 10/10.

It's true.

Being thankful and respectful is the only right thing to do after socializing with them.

So, I am really a very lucky woman.

I had to say this.

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


"I don't want to tell you, nananana :P"


he wants to be unfair. Passive aggressive player.


I used it. it doesn't look nice.
I think she let him get closer to her boobs. my guess is 15 cm proximity is allowed now. without touching, of course.
Good, in a few years they will get to the sad missionary.
without a light.

Language / Polish or any Slavic language key to any other Slavic languages? [126]


Pèela, I guess it sounds similar ;)

Language / Polish or any Slavic language key to any other Slavic languages? [126]


That is ONE language according to not politically correct linguists in both countries. They have more than 80 or 90 % of shared lexical fund , so...tourist guide was not informed well.

A woman tried to present her PhD thesis proving that fact few years ago in Zagreb, she was publicly humiliated for having such a blasphemous idea (but I think she proved her point).

Small differences that exist are in the direction tourist guide said. It's sounding sharper (serbian).

I was listening to Polish and I didn't understand a lot. I think I heard word osa (wasp in serbian, in Polish also?)
Maybe it's just me.

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]


Some things are missing here ;)

Love / 6 months with my Polish girlfriend and I still don't understand her.. [208]


Power of positive reinforcement (reward, conditioning) as motivation.

would you do a better job (any) if on the end you get new Polka or new german woman (or nothing)?

I would say that men and women operate differently only when it comes to the type of the reward.

for you Polka
for germanics domina
for Crow Slavija
for albanian we all had to see donkey

and so on....

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

they have sex once in 4 months from the beginning. she was his first, he was then in his late 20 is. that has to be payed. But she is a better in trade because she pretends that she minds that fact and she doesn't (completely asexual, but mostly half naked).

She was simultaneously with 2 of them for two years, trying to anticipate who will earn more in future.
She chose the right one.

He is happy. It's a bizarre story. At least here.

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

I heard once from a girl that women are most honest at the moment when they say to a rich guy I love you. She said it in a very romantic way, with sincere warmth in her eyes.

So I understand the romantic aspects you're talking about.

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

1. loaded
2. for ignoring

is one of the most common categorizations you all know very well and you can feel it as a painful doubt deep in your heart when they look at you with those innocent eyes.

I'm personally not using that one.

Love / Polish Girl Doesn't Want To Touch. [240]


This is a crucial question. You mentioned fate when you described your feelings to her, I think it's your decision, to live with sexually inadequate partner and frustrate your needs. Why did you do that is for more serious conversation and different circumstances.


Here it's completely different, sth like it's not a good f. if you don't have to go through hell to get to the organ.(?)

We also have a saying/joke "why did I f. if I can't talk about it"( for men from Montenegro, it's mean and incorrect!)

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]


Yes. In Serbian meat market male demand is setting those idiotic rules.

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]


Serbian girls tend to babble a lot about morality and they mostly pretend that they don't like sex, so my criteria is useless.
Ask Crow.
It would be boring.

But I still don't understand what kind of division you have in mind with this serbian vs polish.

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]


I was proposing this as universal classification for Southern that he can apply to all women, not just Polish.

I think I did a good job ;)

Love / Categories of Polish girls [37]

I think from scientific point of view that you followed the rules for classifications:

1. categories are mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive
2.the principle used should be essential (doubtful)

I would suggest that you use for you more essential criteria and that would be level of sexual excitement , so :

1. horny
2. little bit less horny

it looks now better.

History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

Today seems like not at all necessary institution.

"Foucault also compares modern society with Jeremy Bentham's "Panopticon" ..... Ancient prisons have been replaced by clear and visible ones, but Foucault cautions that "visibility is a trap." It is through this visibility, Foucault writes, that modern society exercises its controlling systems of power and knowledge (terms Foucault believed to be so fundamentally connected that he often combined them in a single hyphenated concept, "power-knowledge"). Increasing visibility leads to power located on an increasingly individualized level, shown by the possibility for institutions to track individuals throughout their lives. Foucault suggests that a "carceral continuum" runs through modern society, from the maximum security prison, through secure accommodation, probation, social workers, police, and teachers, to our everyday working and domestic lives. All are connected by the (witting or unwitting) supervision (surveillance, application of norms of acceptable behaviour) of some humans by others."

he died in 1984., what would he say today ;)

looking for similarities... :)

History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]


Can you explain me what does that mean?

if I use Google translate, it will surely lead me to wrong conclusions :)

What are they bleaching?

History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

Maybe you're right...
What i read here about everyday behavior of older Polish generations (parents, grandparents), didn't leave that impression.

Here it was not like that (YU, SRB). For most ppl.

Maybe the difference in tradition (orthodox and catholic) from pre communist era, has something to do with that? What do you think?
;)

History / What was better in Poland under communism? [67]

If I put aside many easier solvable practical problems during communism (apartment, free education, health system, etc., not noticeable differences in SE status) I would say they were more fertile systems, totalitarian in less transparent way, so they were able to produce free thinkers, fresh ideas that were real opposition to those regimes, which was visible for me at least in arts like literature, movies....

Now I have to stop myself from throwing up when I try to choose a book in a bookshop. FUJ!

Solidarity is as a word and as a concept disappeared with fall of communism.
In Serbian you can rarely hear it nowadays. People are more selfish, competitive and life philosophy " Homo homini lupus est" imported from the West is dominating our minds. Souls are gone.