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That really has no bearing on the issue as you are just combating one belief with another.
Read again. I'm not combating anything.
That is not in fact true.
You're going to get it now, but you knew that, didn't you? With Celtic Cross, I don't mean the Christian Celtic crosses which have been erected everywhere, but I mean the Sun Cross or Bolgar Cross, which is the Cross inside a circle, which is a religious and astrologic symbol, which stems back from the Neolithic and Bronze age periods. (Prehistoric Europe.) So yes, Sean, that's totally true, and I'm not even talking about the rest of the Pagan symbols adopted by Christianity.
The Celtic cross did not exist in Ireland before Christianity.
I like to think I've explained myself perfectly.
The Cross came directly from Christianity and the circle came from the pre-existing symbol used in the indigenous religion.
Just look up the Bolgar Cross or the Sun Cross, okay?
So to make the transition easier from Pagan to Christianity, the Christians adapted some of the existing beliefs with their own new Catholic ones.
Exactly.
Still a belief, I don't believe in the coca-cola version of Santa but I sure as hell do not go round telling people they shouldn't put them up every Christmas.
Me neither, but you're missing my point, as usual. It's not about not putting it up, it's about not allowing others putting their symbols up. Besides, I still believe there's a huge difference between what you choose to do in the comfort of your own living room, and what you choose to plant in the town's square.
But you know that is fine, in a country where the overwhelming population are that religion.
Yes, but still, different beliefs shouldn't be demonized or forbidden.
Nobody expects anything from you, why would they? This has nothing to do with you or me. This causes you absolutely no distress, doesn't even come in to your world except for this thread on this forum. I think you are just complaining because that's what you do when it comes to religious issues ;p
I'm not complaining. I'm giving my opinion in reaction to what someone said about rabid Jesus-haters, which is my opinion and my explanation to that person for educational purposes, which you're obviously complaining about.
Who? certainly not you.
People who feel the same about it. (And they do exist.)
I keep thinking of Las Vegas, why don't you complain how they are forcing thier gambling on other people?
They allow *other* Casinos to compete, right? (And that's why you're missing my point!) So basically, you should vieuw this statue as the Casino in Las Vegas which doesn't allow other Casinos to exist.
What about freedom of expression?
The people of this town have raised the money themselves to build what they want, where is the problem????
There's no problem with the statue itself, but maybe you should see what happens when someone raises money and wants to erect a statue of gay people, or maybe some kind of Jewish or pagan symbol. That's the problem.
He certainly existed - there are enough references to him in different sources, though most Christians today wouldn't be able to reconcile their image with the reality of the person, nor would they like him much.
I mean the mythical figure Jesus and the story of his birth and resurrection, and not the actual person Yeshua. (I mean, compare the whole birth and resurrection story to similar stories from ancient religions and you'll get the idea.)