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From: Lviv, Ukraine/Toronto, Canada
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Nathan   
15 Oct 2010
History / What happened from 1650-1795? [68]

The point is that you lost it forever while the question with our near abroad is not so predetermined.

You better think about your near inside when the oil runs out. Your near abroad will meet China in Ural mountains and your imperial BS will end up fighting for Chukotka with Aleuts.
Nathan   
3 Oct 2010
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

yes!

It looks a little bit more tidier than my apartment - damn, I should have guessed that it was one of my relatives' crib.
Nathan   
2 Oct 2010
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

What and where?

Bus stop for liliputs in a Polish village Poddasze :)
Nathan   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

And Ukrainians and Hungarians probably don't even know that we fight over them ;D

We do - we just don't give a cr*p as long as while crossing the border you pay a toll, visit our country as decent tourists and spend money on multitude of souvenirs. In your own countries you may fight your pants off for your dreams - nobody here cares :)
Nathan   
1 Oct 2010
Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]

You are a wimp

Pimp?

You cannot call yourself a Slav if you are an insecure little child who is not a real man.

Interesting :)

I can never find someone who isn't somewhat effeminate and self absorbed.

Because you stand too much in front of the mirror and see an effeminite, whining, self-absorbed entity. Get outside, stop looking at yourself as at a royalty and may be you will find some suicidal guy who would want to spend the rest of his life with you.

Men these days aren't much different than the male dancers I work with and that is sad.

Yes, and women are the treasure of the Universe.

An insecure man blames everything on women instead of taking charge and doing what a man should.

Men around Women are Men, but around Medusas and Poisoning Snakes they become pathetic weaklings or beat the crap out of the chimeras (ending up arrested) - have to agree with you on this one. Women are equal to men, so take a shovel and learn to be responsible, take charge and stop XVII century BS where women were in the kitchen making a stew. Don't expect from others what you can't deliver.
Nathan   
1 Oct 2010
Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]

Excuse me?

Ok, you are excused.

Don't you DARE talk about us that way.

Read your post and say the same to yourself, princess.

You're a traiter

What is that? If you meant a traitor, then be kind to explain yourself.

you are not Slavic.

I am not, so?
Nathan   
1 Oct 2010
Love / Are Polish and Slavic men perhaps a little bit insecure sometimes? [113]

I have dated a Polish woman and a couple of Russian women before and they all seem to be insecure with themselves. What is the reason for this? Is it because they aren't as good in the kitchen and other chores as they used to be? I am so sick of these princesses, whining, ridiculously demanding, insecure women that only care about themselves and their nails and hair and funny wh*ry faces. They are getting more and more like the stupid, self absorbed western European women and Americans that I see and it is disgusting. I get a lot of offers from women, and they can't seem to understand why I am so selective. I don't even bother to explain it to them because they are not worth my time. Why can't they understand that men don't want to fake femininity and childishness?
Nathan   
30 Sep 2010
Life / Gypies/Indian-looking women with kids beg for money in Poland [143]

The Ukraine

Damn, these people will never learn to write Ukraine appropriately: IT IS WITHOUT "THE" ARTICLE. YES!!!! UKRAINE IS UNIQUE AND ONLY OF ITS KIND IN THE WORLD - but there is no need to double underline its uniqueness. You don't put "THE" article in front of Uzbekistan or Uganda, do you? Do you put it in front of France or Albania? No, so why go against accepted norms of the spelling by diplomats, world renowned newspapers and organizations and the country itself when it signs documents written in English?

Thank you very much for your attention and hope it will help in the future to spell it correctly.
Nathan   
30 Sep 2010
History / Rousseau's "Considerations on the Government of Poland" [7]

Nope, however horses cannot write .....propaganda!

True.. Good for them - otherwise, they would have been doubly exploited. I heard she was ordering rhinos from Africa since even horses' dignities became too small for her expensive dump bucket :)
Nathan   
20 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

off-topic content removed

but taking Lwow was just as logical as Germany getting Stettin or Breslau - it simply WAS Polish back then.

How logical? The fact of Polish 19 years' occupation of L'viv in the inter-war period doesn't bring any logic to it.

it's the fault of the Russians/Soviets and uncle Joe (or generally of the Yalta conference and the big 3) rather than Polish imperialism here

There is no fault whatsoever. You just keep on living in the 17th century and this is ridiculous. By the same logic, you may restore the Duchy of Warsaw and sing Marseillaise and have instead of Pilsudski monuments ones of Napoleon or have your capital in Vienna. It must be understood that old imperialistic ambitions that were and still are so popular in some lands lead to nothing else, but war and destruction. If every country will be seeing the so-called "faults" in history, there will never be any healthy movement forward. As I don't see any faults in Holm and Peremyshel' with the surrounding territories lying in Poland, then I see it normal for others to do the same.

if you have knowledge about a topic its very easy to spot someone who know basics or even less.

Holy smokes! To spot you, joke, one doesn't have to even try - your "intelligence" on any topic can kick the ground out of any reasonable creature's feet. Even my cactus died after it saw what you babble, Einstein.
Nathan   
19 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

Your post #40 - before I asked you to present the source about the "crushing" Polish majority in L'viv:

Well, Nathan, Lwow and Wilno had a crushing Polish majority in 1920

Your post #57 - after I asked you to present the source about the "crushing" Polish majority in L'viv:

Google for 1931 cenzus

What happened? ;) Now we are in the 1931, not in 1920 anymore, where your "crushing" majority occurred? ;) and you even don't bother to provide the link ;))))

I know that you should lick our hands anyway

Many Poles told me that before and it makes me really happy :) Thank you.

And don't bother to convince me any more.

You asked, I gave. This is my last talk to you, anyhow.
Nathan   
19 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

The site makes collection of different links and among them you can find a map with distribution of nationalities in "Polish" prewar Lithuania.

Thanks, Borrka, I'll check it again - it is my slow-loading internet service that was, probably, the problem.

Chill down. It meant that you should've lied down and rolled over, now you are barking back with facts.

I don't see why do you have to call barking my quotation from Wikipedia or the fact that I asked you to explain what you meant. I am cool like never :) I also have to admit that I have no time to check all the sources quoted in the paragraph I provided, since these exactly are not online. Nevertheless, opinions of people like Hrushevsky, the 1st president of Ukraine and renowned historian as well as the metropolitan Andrij Sheptyckij may be of help:

"the four centuries of Polish rule had left particularly destructive effects (...) economic and cultural backwardness in Galicia was the main "legacy of historical Poland, which assiduously skimmed everything that could be considered the cream of the nation, leaving it in a state of oppression and helplessness".[6]

by Hrushevskij - here is the book:
books.google.com/books?id=RG9dXs3-zQEC&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&ots=8yHIT2KiZa&sig=DuYrgumIK7dCeC4NlfsEyj7hoKQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

Metropolitan Sheptytsky's prestige was enhanced in 1938 when he condemned the Polish government's persecution of Orthodox believers and destruction of Orthodox churches in the Kholm region and Volhynia.

encyclopediaofukraine.com/pages/S/H/SheptytskyAndrei.htm

Sheptytsky was also a patron of artists, students, including many Orthodox Christians, and a pioneer of ecumenism - he also opposed the Second Polish Republic policy of forced conversion of Polish Ukrainians into Latin Rite Catholics[3].

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Sheptytsky

In Europe it was once common to convert whole peoples, by main force, from one Christian faith to another, on the historic principle of Cuius regio, eius religio ("whose rule, his religion"). Long in disuse, this principle was last week once again being honored in eastern Europe. The rule was Poland's, the religion, Roman Catholicism. Or so it was loudly and plausibly charged by those who were undergoing the "conversion"-7,000,000 Ukrainians in southeastern Poland.
Trying to make themselves heard above other clamorous minorities last week (see p. 21), Polish Ukrainians complained that their Orthodox churches, some of them extremely ancient, were being systematically pulled down or turned into Roman Catholic churches. Of 350 which existed in 1918, all but 50 have vanished or changed hands, most of them during the past year. Both Orthodox and Uniat faithful, the Ukrainians declared, have been forced to adopt Roman Catholicism.

They well know that the Polish Government wishes to crush Ukrainian nationalist tendencies, centred in the churches, and also to stir up religious bitterness among the Ukrainians. In the latter aim it has succeeded. In a pastoral, suppressed by the Government but circulated (in English) in London and Manhattan last week, Archbishop Sheptytsky admitted that the destruction of Ukrainian churches had "cast the odium for what has transpired on the Apostolic See....A new abyss is being opened between the Eastern and the Catholic Churches."

Read more:
time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,883791,00.html#ixzz0zyyhnugg
time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,883791,00.html
The above is from newspaper "Time" dating October 24, 1938.
In addition here are two historians, their books and pages where the souces of the materials I provided in the previous post and can be checked. The second book is even in Polish, so to really demolish my stance, you might check this one out and say that it was misquoted and the facts about Polish policies of forceful closing Ukrainian schools, burning libraries are something you were defending and contradicts my assertions.

^ Siwicki p.40
^ Mieczyslaw Iwanicki, Oswiata i szkolnictwo ukrainskie w Polsce w latach 1918-1939. praca habilatacyjna. Siedlce, 1975 s. 162
And another important thing: I asked you only for a single source regarding your barking about "crushing" Polish majority in L'viv area or just L'viv itself and you didn't manage to bark it out ;)
Nathan   
19 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

Not that I give a dime for your mottos of life, but would you be so kind to explain what exactly you said or, rather, meant above?

Well, Nathan, Lwow and Wilno had a crushing Polish majority in 1920

And also if you could explain Polish meaning to the word "crushing" as well as provide the material where I would learn more about that amount in numbers (following your suit, be kind to provide nothing of polish source) :)
Nathan   
19 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

I was kidding, Seanus :) Any Scot who reached these lands was executed immediately ;)
Regarding L'viv, me too: I write Edinbref and I will stick to it.

Wrong

Thank you for article, but I don't see what were you pointing at. There is mentioned German civilians' expulsion from Poland in 1945 and 300 times mentioned "regaining historically Polish territories". What did you want me to read?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Ukrainian_minority_in_Poland
Nathan   
18 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

Polish "occupation" of Wilno having 60+% Polish "minority", 30+ % Jews and last but not least 1% Lithuanians.

Well, Borya, do you recall the policy the Polish government conducted in L`viv (and most part of western Ukraine), where Ukrainians could not get into universities, when Poles closed schools and burnt libraries. Many of Ukrainian present and future intelligensia moved to other European countries (most notably, Prague, with its Ukrainian Free University, which was transfered from Vienna and now is in Munchen) to continue their studies as Poles prevented them to do it at home. Once in the other country, established and settled, a few came back. All the high level administrative or scientific jobs as well as salary connected to them and enabling people to afford living in the city was barred for Ukrainians and no doubt Lithuanians who couldn`t get into universities and in addition studied in Polonized high schools. So, what a surprise about Polish presence in cities like L`viv and Vilnius! All the surrounding territories, even as far as Holm, Peremyshel and around Vilnius were settled from times unknown by Ukrainians and Lithuanians, respectively. Why Poles were not in the surrounding in all directions territories? Societies on the autochton lands are built starting from the countryside, villages, farms which supply in the future centers which become cities; otherwise, the existance of the latter is not possible. You cannot be looking into microscope for a bacteria before you grow something in the field to support your body and brain and collect the money to afford buying that microscope. Absence of Poles there shows immediately the nature of their presence on these territories even for someone who might not look further into books of history.

Using these criteria and similar figures one can speak of Ukrainian occupation of Lviv today LOL.

As you can see - one cannot :) LOL
Nathan   
18 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

I know, Seanus. Let them balk :))) You should definitly visit L`viv (Lwow - what???) on Euro 2012, Seanus, and I hope with your soccer team. Someone mentioned that Kryvonis (important Ukrainian historical figure) was a Scot and he was the one who led the Cossack army to liberate the city from Polish army in 1649. So you might find here some interesting stuff for yourself :)

Basically, all of you guys have lost something.

So true, but definitely not the heritage ;)
Nathan   
18 Sep 2010
History / Lwów, Wilno ... kresy - Poland have lost enormoust part of our heritage... [389]

Poles did it once in 1921 and I am sure we can take it back now ,we just need to grow some balls.

Stupid as always. Grow your balls, but this time they won`t be cut, but mined, warrior ;)

Bad when somebody tries to reshape history by (for example) removing Polish inscription from Vilnius University.

Why? Original name of Vilnius University was: ``Almae Academia et Universitas Vilnensis Societatis Jesu``. During occupation of the Lithuanian capital by Poland some Polish marshal decided to rename it and, moreover, in Polish!!! (outrageous!):

Marshall Józef Piłsudski reopened it as Stefan Batory University (Uniwersytet Stefana Batorego) on August 28, 1919. The Vilnius Region was subsequently annexed by Poland. In response to the dispute over the region, many Lithuanian scholars moved to Vytautas Magnus University in Kaunas, the interwar capital.[4]

I don`t see why occupational forces CAN rename the university, but people of the country CANNOT. It is called now ``Vilniaus Universitetas``, which is great.

P.S. Some great people studied there. Check it out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilnius_University
Nathan   
17 Sep 2010
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

A statue of Don Quixot demolished by Polish soccer fans in Barcelona.
Nathan   
11 Sep 2010
History / Poles back to the Elbe (Łaba)? [28]

All neighbouring countries -- France, Benelux, Poland (to the Elbe), Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Denmark, etc. should have received generous chunks of pre-war German/Austrian territory.

By the same logic, Lithuania, Bielorus', Ukraine, Czech and Slovakia should have received nice chunks of Poland for waging the war multiple times against its neighbors.

Barring that solution (occupation), wimpy France should have agreed to Piłsudski's proposal of a joint pre-emptive strike agaisnt Hitler's Germany.

If you have done that, the Soviet Union, which was going to strike anyway whether Germans start or not the WWII, would have attacked Poland in protection of the communists in Germany and liberation of Germany from evil France and Poland. This way the situation for Poland would be far worse than it was.
Nathan   
10 Sep 2010
History / Poland provoked Germany to start WW2 by mobilising first [94]

Nazism remains always a possibility for Germany.Most Germans blame Hitler for losing the war not for limitations of personal freedoms.

It is a possibility in any country where people are sick and tired of brainless, purposeless talking non-stop politicians. Nazism in the 20-30s was fed by the state of economy and unfair international treaties which pushed the country to the extremes and let the nazis win the elections. Germany has no reason whatsoever to go there again - it's at the top already and not by guns and terror, but economy and science. Nazism is born where external forces try to suffocate exhausted people, demading at the same time to make them pay for the air that manages to get to the lungs.
Nathan   
10 Sep 2010
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

The red suspender (or other red element of underwear) weared on Studniówka is to bring luck on the May exams.

Hm, interesting. I'll do it next year ( I hope it brings luck to the opposite sex as well :)
Nathan   
10 Sep 2010
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Who will guess what occasion is this? ;)

Graduation?

why there are so many candles on this cementary??? Some massive massacre victims? ;)

Well, it is in most cases a massacre by the same perpetrator - Ms. Death and the day is, propably, All Saints day judging by the color of the leaves (sometimes, the cemeteries look like this on the Easter night).
Nathan   
9 Sep 2010
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

They are still not married and thus, "available". It is not, of course, the reason to show your legs like this, but during some wedding ceremony is quite possible.