UK, Ireland / Europe first serial killer is Polish. [8]

That might help to shut down the Schengen. Good.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


Do they wear sidelocks ?


For similar reason opponents of Kremlin are commonly called "fascists". Black PR to discredit the opponent.

News / US military hardware coming to Poland [76]


I was hoping they would enable you to figure it out on your own.


If Poland has a decent army (which is a matter of political decision) for a country of that size:

1. Russians will think twice before they decide to launch any attack. In recent history they have been attacking only those that were very weak.

2. If they attack, every day of fierce fighting (even If we would be gradually losing controlled territory) would get "the world" (not necessarily NATO) closer to "reacting" (not necessarily going to war). For example, If guys in Beijing realize the whole thing is a serious mess inside of their largest trading partner, they will start calculating losses, then they will cry and then they will call Moscow and throw a few *****.

News / US military hardware coming to Poland [76]

"Dude", there won't be any conflict between NATO and Russia. If Russia decides to attack Poland, KGB will blow up some bus full of Russians somewhere between Belarus and Kaliningrad, next Russian para-military forces will step in "to secure the area and allow independent investigation". If we start shooting at them, Gerries and half of NATO will "call for a ceasefire", while the other half will say If there's no unanimous decision what to do, let's stay away. Meanwhile Russians will start full scale intervention "to defend their compatriots". Then US and UK will set up no-fly zone west of Vistula - that's the best we can expect.

NATO these days is a discussion club, America is more and more focused on SE Asia and the Middle East, their forces in Europe are tiny and NATO without US is worthless. Do you seriously think that Germany or France will go to war with Russia over Podlasie or Mazury ? That thousands of soldiers from Belgium, Holland or Spain will die defending Poland ? Or maybe US will launch ICBMs and destroy the world ? During the cold war the whole thing was working as there were huge masses of forces on full alert on both sides, first step from one side would trigger off immediate reaction from the other, without discussing anything, just war with x countries involved, ever heard of British Army of the Rhine ? Even Canadians were keeping thousands of soldiers on the front line in West Germany. These days Europe is nearly unarmed and there's basically no NATO military presence in ex-commie member states. So If shyt hits the fan, there will be no "immediate reacon" but politicians will start... discussing...

News / US military hardware coming to Poland [76]


lol...
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News / US military hardware coming to Poland [76]


Sell'em some shyt !

News / US military hardware coming to Poland [76]


There's no such thing as "Patriot missile", there are several types, including some designed from a start to defend against ballistic missiles but they cost several million USD per unit.


Christ on the bike, Iron Dome is a C-RAM system that protect urban areas against primitive rockets and artillery shells, It is "unique" because no one else in the world is operating in such conditions, no conventional war will look like that mess.

News / US military hardware coming to Poland [76]


Bartosiak is an expert on geopolitics, not that much on the military, however in case of air-defence he's right. Polish air defence should be focused mainly on "aerodynamic" targets, not the ballistic ones. Russians have so many Iskanders and other long range weapons that any kind of "shield" against them will not be effective. The best defence against them is to:

1. Spread out your forces and other assets.
2. Buy short range ballistic missiles (which are not really that expensive) and hit back the enemy, his airfields, bridges and other "fixed assets".

Besides, the future of western medium range systems (all of them: Patriot, MEADS, SAMP-T) is not clear (are there going to be new versions developed, when, how much will they cost) and they are extremely expensive. We should first go for short-range systems, in this case all except missiles (which are 30-40% of total costs) can be Polish made, missiles could be produced under license, so ~85% of money would stay in Poland. Besides missiles such as CAMM ER, AMRAAM ER or Derby have range of about 50 km, so that's basically something in between short and medium range and still several times cheaper.

In case of medium range air defence we should either:
1. Go for some intermediate solutions, for example take a few 2nd hand batteries of older Patriots from Yanks, promise them (but nothing on paper) that If they provide them nearly for free, we will buy the new generation Patriots in the next decade (when/If they actually exist).

2. Buy Chinese HQ-9s
3. Forget totally about Patriots and such, the new Derby ER is said to have a range of nearly 100 km and it should be still much, much cheaper as has no "anti-ballistic" capabilities, which are not really that needed in Poland, at least not worth their price.

But generally I doubt (unfortunately) that the new government is going to change the strategy. I won't be surprised If in ~2 years they will actually strike the deal with the same Raytheon. The problem here is that we are talking about the systems that cost tens of billions and will be in service for the next 30-40 years. It's not a matter of buying a bottle of vodka. That process require a damn load of work, not only technical evaluation, also financial side, industrial cooperation etc. Pretty much nothing was done by previous "government" - they likely just took several million from the "lobbyists" (who thought, If the next guys are so pro-American, they won't dare to cancel it) and that's why they "recommended to buy Patriots". Nothing more was done, that's why the whole process need to be started from the beginning.


Now go and check the cost of PAC 3 MSE.

News / Names of Polish companies that make uniforms and personal equipments for Polish LAND FORCES [7]

I know that some of the "individual equipment", tents etc. is supplied by Lubawa SA -> lubawa.com.pl/index.php/en/oferta-4

Companies such as Miwo Military or WISPORT used to produce some items too.
Raincoats - this seems to be the latest -> kolltex.pl/component/hikashop/product/8-peleryna-poncho-przeciwdeszczowe.html
Boots - not sure now but this protektorsa.pl/oferta/militarne,12.html company used to supply some quite recently.
Uniforms - according to my knowledge the ministry owns the designs and they just grant the orders to different producers.

Are you going to buy some of it for yourself ? Does it have to be the standard army equipment ? There are many small companies in Poland that produce various "military accessories" for ASG kids, survival groups or individual soldiers, who buy it on their own.

News / Names of Polish companies that make uniforms and personal equipments for Polish LAND FORCES [7]

I can provide some info later (If anyone is still following this thread).

News / Polish Minister of Agriculture stops foreign land-grab in Poland [24]


It's been happening all over "Eastern Europe", even your beloved EU issued some reports on that as far as I remember.

News / Polish Minister of Agriculture stops foreign land-grab in Poland [24]


So your point was totally off-topic.

News / Polish Minister of Agriculture stops foreign land-grab in Poland [24]


Dude, you are so clueless. He was talking about breaking the law illegally buying up the farmland, which was happening over the years and PO "government" was looking the other way (while PSL operatives were very likely often involved in the process). It's about crime, not his personal opinion on anything.

News / Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor [403]


What really leaves a nasty taste is that this filthy pedophile has been making films, getting awards (including states ones), attending big events etc. since then. So much for "he already got his punishment". All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. If he had been just an average guy, he would have rotten in prison.


That reminds me of "but he is a child of Holocaust" :)) Now I am waiting for "come on, she's just a Goy !" :)))))

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]

Says a fan of gays that doubled are debt within 8 years.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


VAT collection in Poland is one of the worst in EU (just check the stats published by your beloved EU) which costs the budget tens of billions a year. If being "pro-business" is looking the other way when such things happen (like PO did) and actually doing something about it is "socialistic" then yeah, bring on that "socialism".

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


EU peacekeeping forces must step in to bring back democracy and human rights !!!!11

News / PKP buys Alstrom Pendolino trains for € 665 million [60]


Yes.


And yes.

Except that it wasn't "Poland" but PO's gov - so Tusk could take a few PR shots in front of modern looking train (and several other guys take some gifts, enough to make them afford 30k watches) and brag around how "Poland is modernizing".

So they spent 2.7 billion and made it flow out of the country. The bottom line is that we didn't badly need those trains. They should have spent it on Polish made local trains, which would enable producers to invest more in new projects. That's what Gerries would have done and that's what make them rich. But that's not in line with colonial mentality PO follows, they prefer buying from abroad, be praised "in Europe", get a doorman job in Belgium for being such great Europeans and so on.

News / PKP buys Alstrom Pendolino trains for € 665 million [60]

Jesus Christ ! I wasn't talking about Japanese trains in regard to PKP order.


Harold, let me help you a bit. When a country like Germany or France wants to make any major purchase, they:

* check If domestic companies are able to fulfill that order,
* If not, they adjust the order the way which will enable domestic companies to fullfil it,
* If that is not enough, they re-schedule the whole thing and subsides R&D works If needed,
* when it is finally delivered, they promote and subside the export with gov guaranteed cheap credit etc.

Without that approach they would be no TGV in Morocco (or anywhere else for that matter) or Pendolino in Poland (or Airbus or Eurofighter and a lot of what their economies are based on). And If we adopt the same approach, not only there will be no more Pendolino here but very likely Polish made train will start competing with the same Pendolino in tenders in Romania, Turkey and elsewhere 6-8 years from now... and that would be very xenophobic, homophobic and anti-semitic...

News / PKP buys Alstrom Pendolino trains for € 665 million [60]


They MAKE MONEY selling that technology. Just one of recent examples:
railjournal.com/index.php/high-speed/first-moroccan-tgv-arrives-in-tangiers.html


They do really a lot. It took PESA years to get German certification although their trains were already operating in several EU countries. Both German and French markets are very difficult for foreign companies, government/local authorities/major corporations won't buy anything foreign unless it is really MUCH better/cheaper than domestic products. Go work in the real business and get some touch with reality.

News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]


Another good example showing how you have been brainwashed by anti-Polish propaganda. "Seizing complete control of everything" as you call it is what the party winning majority of seats in the Parliament is expected to do in any normal country, that's what they are paid for. Only in "reality" animated by TVNs/G(ó)W(no)s appointing members of government by the party that won democratic elections is somehow "dangerous for democracy".

News / PKP buys Alstrom Pendolino trains for € 665 million [60]


Dude, you've got no shame :))))

History / How come Polonization never works? [87]


Thank God you liberated them from that oppression. Oh wait :)))))

History / How come Polonization never works? [87]

Or not, eh ? Quite a few Jews would declare themselves as Polish while no Germans or Ukrainians spoke Polish as the first language, It just didn't happen, It's not Ireland where people adopted language of the enemy. You don't even realize what the real controversies around the census were, just pick-up random commie propaganda slogans. Language, religion whatever else, the results would change no more than +/- 2%.

History / How come Polonization never works? [87]

Yeah, and now muppet go and bring up usual anti-Polonia nonsense about them not speaking Polish etc. :))) 1st language is actually a very good indicators, no real Ukrainians were speaking Polish as their 1st language and no, it's not that Ukrainians or Bolsheviks are always right and "racist Poles" are always wrong.

History / How come Polonization never works? [87]

So said commies claiming that they "liberated" these lands and having the choice between Polish and anti-Polish sources, "expat" will always choose the latter.

History / How come Polonization never works? [87]


LOL ! Because Germans and Ukrainians commonly spoke Polish as their 1st language :)))) The language results pretty much match the religion results, that's it.

News / IBM fears racist attacks on employees on Poland's independence day [63]


Who is that ?

News / Kiszczak burial without state or military honours [44]



Come on ! Give Kopacz/Siemoniak a break !

News / IBM fears racist attacks on employees on Poland's independence day [63]


Orban is actually a good example of black PR action. He was demonized all across Europe and got "dictator" image only because he made some troubles for "international corporations" ripping off Hungary.


Yes and that's what "international corporations" very often do across the world. Why it was picked up by the "media" is another story...


LOL ! What a "surprise" :))))


Edited.. you've got much much more in common with fascism than I do. And it's not us that go crazy over the IBM's "advice" but your Gów... "brothers". We just comment on the reasons they do it...