Bratwurst Boy
19 Feb 2010
Life / Why Poles are so crazy about their country? [55]
We moan much better...of course! ;)
Hm? I thought it was us? Forever moaning?
We moan much better...of course! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
19 Feb 2010
Life / Why Poles are so crazy about their country? [55]
Well...it's not our hymn we are critical of or doubting! ;)
Well...it's not our hymn we are critical of or doubting! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
19 Feb 2010
Life / Why Poles are so crazy about their country? [55]
Have patience Torqi! :)
However, if criticism and pessimism were such important
factors in creating wealth, Poland would be the richest country in the world ;)
factors in creating wealth, Poland would be the richest country in the world ;)
Have patience Torqi! :)
Bratwurst Boy
19 Feb 2010
Life / Why Poles are so crazy about their country? [55]
Praising without any reason (as in Greece) doesn't stop any crashing...just serves fogging the real problems, hindering the acknowledging and the subsequent tackling of said problems.
Germans are often said to be much to critical, pessimist, doubting...but that serves us well!
Praising without any reason (as in Greece) doesn't stop any crashing...just serves fogging the real problems, hindering the acknowledging and the subsequent tackling of said problems.
Germans are often said to be much to critical, pessimist, doubting...but that serves us well!
Bratwurst Boy
19 Feb 2010
Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2010
Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]
For the Berliners my family was "die Polen" as they came to live here after the war as my mom remembers!
For the Berliners my family was "die Polen" as they came to live here after the war as my mom remembers!
Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2010
Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2010
Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]
Erm...I don't think so Torq.
My family were Silesians for generations...I remember their german-silesian dialect and traditions and dishes.
Sadly...it died out with them.
They felt German and lived in Germany till the lands changed hands...that goes for the majority in big chunks of Silesia and most bigger towns like Breslau.
Silesians were a precious mix of german, polish and bohemian traditions and culture...now it is "basically polish" but it wasn't that way for centuries!
I fear I don't get you... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia#Demographics
They were all Silesians...but for sure not "basically polish" by default!
Their hometown: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wroc%C5%82aw#History
More than a Millennia mixed history - Lower Silesia became "basically polish" after WWII only...
If he was a Silesian, then he must have spoken Silesian (which is
a dialect of Polish language) and must have been ethnic Silesian (basically - a Pole).
a dialect of Polish language) and must have been ethnic Silesian (basically - a Pole).
Erm...I don't think so Torq.
My family were Silesians for generations...I remember their german-silesian dialect and traditions and dishes.
Sadly...it died out with them.
They felt German and lived in Germany till the lands changed hands...that goes for the majority in big chunks of Silesia and most bigger towns like Breslau.
Silesians were a precious mix of german, polish and bohemian traditions and culture...now it is "basically polish" but it wasn't that way for centuries!
Yes, but again - Bratwurst Boy didn't say that his father was 'a German living in Silesia'.
He said he was a S-I-L-E-S-I-A-N.
He said he was a S-I-L-E-S-I-A-N.
I fear I don't get you... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia#Demographics
Silesia has been inhabited from time immemorial by people of multiple ethnic groups. Germanic tribes were first recorded within Silesia in the 1st century.
Slavic White Croats arrived in this territory around the 6th century establishing White Croatia. The first known states in Silesia were the Czech proto-states of Greater Moravia and Bohemia. In the 10th century, Polish ruler Mieszko I incorporated Silesia into the Polish state.
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Before the Second World War, Silesia was inhabited mostly by Germans and Poles, in addition to German and Polish Jews and Czechs. In 1905, a census showed that 75% of the population was German and 25% Polish.
Slavic White Croats arrived in this territory around the 6th century establishing White Croatia. The first known states in Silesia were the Czech proto-states of Greater Moravia and Bohemia. In the 10th century, Polish ruler Mieszko I incorporated Silesia into the Polish state.
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Before the Second World War, Silesia was inhabited mostly by Germans and Poles, in addition to German and Polish Jews and Czechs. In 1905, a census showed that 75% of the population was German and 25% Polish.
They were all Silesians...but for sure not "basically polish" by default!
Their hometown: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wroc%C5%82aw#History
The city was devastated in 1241 during the Mongol invasion of Europe. The inhabitants burned the city to force the Mongols to a quick withdrawal.
Afterwards the town was repopulated by Germans[5] (see: Ostsiedlung), who became the dominant ethnic group, though the city remained multi-ethnic as an important trading city on the Via Regia and Amber Road.[6]
"Breslau", the Germanised name of the city, appeared for the first time in written records. The city council used Latin and German languages
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After the Mongol invasion, Breslau was expanded by adopting German town law.
The expanded town was around 60 hectares in size and the new Main Market Square (Rynek), which was covered with timber frame houses, became the new centre of the town. The original foundation, Ostrów Tumski, became the religious center. Breslau adopted Magdeburg rights in 1262 and, at the end of the thirteenth century joined the Hanseatic League.
Afterwards the town was repopulated by Germans[5] (see: Ostsiedlung), who became the dominant ethnic group, though the city remained multi-ethnic as an important trading city on the Via Regia and Amber Road.[6]
"Breslau", the Germanised name of the city, appeared for the first time in written records. The city council used Latin and German languages
....
After the Mongol invasion, Breslau was expanded by adopting German town law.
The expanded town was around 60 hectares in size and the new Main Market Square (Rynek), which was covered with timber frame houses, became the new centre of the town. The original foundation, Ostrów Tumski, became the religious center. Breslau adopted Magdeburg rights in 1262 and, at the end of the thirteenth century joined the Hanseatic League.
More than a Millennia mixed history - Lower Silesia became "basically polish" after WWII only...
Bratwurst Boy
17 Feb 2010
News / International Political Parties (Poland and EU) [14]
I'm not sure what you mean!
The Green parties operate of course locally as a party has to be a minimum on voters at home to be eligible for the european parliament...and there the green parties from EU-countries cooperate then.
Just as an example but the same works for all parties in the european parliament!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Green_Party
But why should the polish green party for example be active in Germany or the german green party in Poland???
The European parliament is like the parliaments in the the member states...hence similiar alliances are being made...lefties against righties etc.
You don't need to invent the wheel again! ;)
When you harbor socialist ideals then you have a party for that already too:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_European_Socialists
Do they co-operate locally? Are they even active locally? No they aren't. Are they going to? Do they have plans to operate locally?
I'm not sure what you mean!
The Green parties operate of course locally as a party has to be a minimum on voters at home to be eligible for the european parliament...and there the green parties from EU-countries cooperate then.
Just as an example but the same works for all parties in the european parliament!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Green_Party
The European Green Party (or European Greens or EGP) is the Green political party at European level. As such it is a federation of green parties in Europe.
But why should the polish green party for example be active in Germany or the german green party in Poland???
The European parliament is like the parliaments in the the member states...hence similiar alliances are being made...lefties against righties etc.
You don't need to invent the wheel again! ;)
When you harbor socialist ideals then you have a party for that already too:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_European_Socialists
The Party of European Socialists (PES) is a European political party comprising thirty-twosocialist, social democratic and labour parties from each European Union member state and Norway.
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
News / International Political Parties (Poland and EU) [14]
Um...there ARE european political parties already:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party#The_Europarties
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party#Regulations
Um...there ARE european political parties already:
A European political party, formally a political party at European level, informally (especially in academic circles) a Europarty, is a type of political party organization operating transnationally in Europe and in the institutions of the European Union. They are regulated and funded by the European Union and are usually made up of national parties, not individuals.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party#The_Europarties
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_political_party#Regulations
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
5,5 percent of the income tax and till now the Bund got 160 Billion Euro from it to pay for the cost of the re-unification.
(2009 around 13 Billion Euro)
5,5 percent of the income tax and till now the Bund got 160 Billion Euro from it to pay for the cost of the re-unification.
(2009 around 13 Billion Euro)
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
All Germans (yes those in the East too) paid for the cost of the re-unification with a tax, the so called "Solidaritätszuschlag" or "Soli" in short.
Now as most people think the East has become as well as the West (inclusive stronger and weaker regions) there are now contemplations to use the Soli for neglected parts in West Germany instead of cancelling the Soli tax altogether.
All Germans (yes those in the East too) paid for the cost of the re-unification with a tax, the so called "Solidaritätszuschlag" or "Soli" in short.
Now as most people think the East has become as well as the West (inclusive stronger and weaker regions) there are now contemplations to use the Soli for neglected parts in West Germany instead of cancelling the Soli tax altogether.
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
A starter:
dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,988374,00.html
No, I didn't live in Germany at that time. Let me read up on it.
A starter:
dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,988374,00.html
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
Ever heard of Agenda 2010 by Schröder? The home party of the laborers and trade unions, the SPD determined a first class capitalist plan which put the SPD in many things right of the CDU.
Since then many things changed...the boundaries blurred. Today some even say the CDU is more social than the SPD who on the other hand now tries a turn around and fights the Linke!
;)
The good old "trade unions against the gov" just doesn't work in Germany anymore..
Hm, only in East Germany or also in West Germany? I had to deal with VERDI once in Hessia in the late 90's, and they were a major, influencial pain in the a*s. That's why I ask.
Ever heard of Agenda 2010 by Schröder? The home party of the laborers and trade unions, the SPD determined a first class capitalist plan which put the SPD in many things right of the CDU.
Since then many things changed...the boundaries blurred. Today some even say the CDU is more social than the SPD who on the other hand now tries a turn around and fights the Linke!
;)
The good old "trade unions against the gov" just doesn't work in Germany anymore..
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
Re-unification and common sense...
They still have influence of course but they have no longer the power to blackmail or to take the gov into a lockdown.
Most people knew that we had to shorten the belt so to speak!
I remember the last big demo in Berlin last year where people demanded more money and they had not much support from the people on the street.
IG Metall and VERDI have no influence anymore? When did that happen?
Re-unification and common sense...
They still have influence of course but they have no longer the power to blackmail or to take the gov into a lockdown.
Most people knew that we had to shorten the belt so to speak!
I remember the last big demo in Berlin last year where people demanded more money and they had not much support from the people on the street.
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
Especially as the task was to bring East Germany UP to West Germany standards not the other way around! :):):)
And no, our Unions have barely much influence anymore....if there are strikes it's mostly against factory closures or for Tariffs and such.
In Germany common sense still prevails...where should the money come from they demand?
For a Greek? ;)
Between 1995 and 2004, income fell by 0.9%. The source listed above is the DGB (Deutscher Gewerkschaftsbund), by the way!
Especially as the task was to bring East Germany UP to West Germany standards not the other way around! :):):)
And no, our Unions have barely much influence anymore....if there are strikes it's mostly against factory closures or for Tariffs and such.
In Germany common sense still prevails...where should the money come from they demand?
Anyway it is difficult to understand German economics.
For a Greek? ;)
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
Huh?
Yes,but living standards 60% down?
Huh?
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
Well...Something big happened during the early nineties, remember? Germany had to shoulder the re-unification, the enormous task to bring a whole country up to standard...alone...without any help from our european friends...of course slacking in our duties to the EU on the other hand was not allowed.
Somehow we achieved it nonetheless...if the credit-crisis hadn't struck we would had achieved last year for the first time since the re-unification a budget without debt...we can forget about this now though!
I read that real wages fell 60% in Germany from the early nineties.
Well...Something big happened during the early nineties, remember? Germany had to shoulder the re-unification, the enormous task to bring a whole country up to standard...alone...without any help from our european friends...of course slacking in our duties to the EU on the other hand was not allowed.
Somehow we achieved it nonetheless...if the credit-crisis hadn't struck we would had achieved last year for the first time since the re-unification a budget without debt...we can forget about this now though!
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
Yes...we work to much, to long, for to low wages, we manufacture and export to much, have this damned trade surplus (meaning we sell more than we buy), we don't do credit cards so much....in short we suck, mea culpa! :(
However the Germans are also responsible for this because they knew what was happening and kept wages in Germany artificially low despite the positive budget balance.
Yes...we work to much, to long, for to low wages, we manufacture and export to much, have this damned trade surplus (meaning we sell more than we buy), we don't do credit cards so much....in short we suck, mea culpa! :(
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
UK, Ireland / Brits to protest against foreigners in the workforce, including Poles. [289]
You ARE Greek, southern! ;)
You ARE Greek, southern! ;)
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]
My grandpa was Silesian and he wasn't "forced"!
If you maybe want to inform yourself a bit about Kashubs, Poles or Silesians that were forced to serve in the Wehrmacht, please check out this site: wehrmacht-polacy.pl/
If there are any questions please ask.
If there are any questions please ask.
My grandpa was Silesian and he wasn't "forced"!
Bratwurst Boy
16 Feb 2010
USA, Canada / Most common ancestries in the USA [56]
Well...they didn't...compared to the modern English and their "special relationship"! ;)
Doubtful, as Germany was the enemy in two world wars and millions of German-Americans had to supress their "German" part and concentrate on the "American" part, contrary to the English-Americans...
and dont feel the need to cling on to being English
Well...they didn't...compared to the modern English and their "special relationship"! ;)
Maybe the English ones prefer to accept themselves as American rather than the "German American or Irish American"
Doubtful, as Germany was the enemy in two world wars and millions of German-Americans had to supress their "German" part and concentrate on the "American" part, contrary to the English-Americans...
Bratwurst Boy
15 Feb 2010
USA, Canada / Most common ancestries in the USA [56]
Well, so do German-Americans and Irish-Americans..and I doubt they forgot where their families came from! Especially if one of the questions in the survey was about the heritage of their ancestors...;)
However, demographers regard this as an undercount as the index of inconsistency is high, and many, if not most, people from English stock have a tendency to identify simply as Americans[3][4][5][6] or, if of mixed European ancestry, nominate a more recent and differentiated ethnic group.[7]
Well, so do German-Americans and Irish-Americans..and I doubt they forgot where their families came from! Especially if one of the questions in the survey was about the heritage of their ancestors...;)
Bratwurst Boy
14 Feb 2010
Bratwurst Boy
14 Feb 2010
USA, Canada / Most common ancestries in the USA [56]
Interesting! :)
We have those too...
vdac.de/vdac/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=107&Itemid=121
german.meetup.com/483/calendar/12529079/?a=cv1c_grp&rv=cv1c
one out of many German Clubs in the USA
one out of many German Clubs in the USA
Interesting! :)
We have those too...
vdac.de/vdac/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=107&Itemid=121
Bratwurst Boy
14 Feb 2010
Bratwurst Boy
14 Feb 2010
Love / Polish Girls vs Russian Girls [813]
Angela...who??? I just watched Transporter 2 for the umpteenthst time...*sighs dreamily*....Kate Nauta!!!
It's those freckles!
Angela...who??? I just watched Transporter 2 for the umpteenthst time...*sighs dreamily*....Kate Nauta!!!
It's those freckles!
Bratwurst Boy
14 Feb 2010