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Ironside   
12 Mar 2012
History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]

zero died for Poland they died to keep English empire hold on to their colonies and to keep that German family dominating the world a British royal family I am referring to.

I wasn't encouraging you !stop that wisdom fountain of yours, you are making yourself look foolish !
Ironside   
12 Mar 2012
History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]

How many thousands of British and Empire troops died attempting to honour a treaty with Poland?

check your notes again sunshine but no Brits died for Poland! Nice try - attempting to honor the treaty? Is that like attempting to pay ? Would court recognize such defense?
Ironside   
11 Mar 2012
News / FEMI-FASCISTS MARCH AGAIN IN POLAND [126]

Evidently those women feel they aren't free

Is that about feelings ? Somebody feels that is not appreciated and blame others for that, and then couple with those similarly impaired and they all demand luve !

Hey I got news for you ! You need to work for it and make it happen, nobody will give you that for free, you freaks !

Every change in womens' rights over the past hundred years or so has been positive, and all were hard won by women who went out and shouted loud until they got it.

Do you REALLY believe it?
Ironside   
11 Mar 2012
News / FEMI-FASCISTS MARCH AGAIN IN POLAND [126]

That sounds exactly like the excuses used to put the first suffragettes into mental asylums.

Are women free now ?

It does rather sound like a fear of change.

Change is only transgression from one state into the other - do not equal progress.
Ironside   
11 Mar 2012
History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]

what happened in CRown Heights was quite specific to that area and was over 20 years ago,

how is that important?

Why NO accusations of "American anti-semitism"? Certainly if this happened in Poland the Liberal establishment media in Poland and the US and other countries would have a field day talking about "POLISH anti-semitism this" and "POLISH anti-semitism that".

Absolutely ! There are people who are banging about this all the time.
Ironside   
11 Mar 2012
News / FEMI-FASCISTS MARCH AGAIN IN POLAND [126]

Some women are just plainly mad. Since when democracy and freedom of expression turned into a display of different stages of madness and degradation?
I-S Just a rhetorical question
Ironside   
11 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

This reads a little bit like:

You read is like this because you find it suitable to your views. To be honest your analogy sucks and couldn't be further from the truth.

Besides that your story is incorrect, because the Polish state pressurized Czechoslowakia alongside the Nazis in Summer 1938 already.

What pressure ?Poland had been working hard to forge military pact with Czechoslovakia. They refused, repeatedly, when the tables were turned and their protectors and masters sold them, they despite modern weaponry, terrain which is a dream to defend, they capitulated.

Poland wanted only thing that that country could give - the stolen land back. What wrong with that ? Nobody wanted war right, nobody was fighting, everybody were happy.

Well expect Churchill according to you but who cares about Churchill?
By the way Czechoslovakia was an artificial country created like that by France to destroy for ever Austro-Hungary. Hungary's territory has been ridiculously shrunken.

he Nazis had the absolute majority of votes in Danzig from 1934 on, but the demoratic constitution of the Free City could not be changed.

Are you complaining that Polish government opposed the Nazis from taking over the Free City?You know very well that they were not democrats and there would be no democracy - hypocrite much ?

Anyway Danzig should belong to Poland only thanks to British muddling into continental affairs it was created the FREE City.

Seriously before the WWII Poland had only two serious choices, either behave like power or become Germany ally - read vassal.
Ironside   
10 Mar 2012
History / Why have Poles contributed so little to Academics? (Particularly Science) [180]

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No, I'm not implying every single Pole. I am implying it's a general view among many Poles. The facts have been stated in this thread. Jews have contributed more to science than Poles have even though they were a minority in Poland. This obviously makes you angry judging by your other posts in this thread.

Let talk why you are such a teat!
Ironside   
8 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

itain could have done but did not do in September 1939.

Acting according to said agreement, any more question - read my posts. Ask me one more time the same question and you are on ignore pronto! Do I make myself clear Harry ?

Pretty well true.

Are you another one with excuses ?Facts are facts !
Ironside   
8 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

Yes, with a key fact here

The key factor here is your ignoring facts and asking again and again the same question. Would that be your medications ?Did I not answer many times ?

Facts are facts - just read my posts, I have nothing to add!
And you are claiming that Britain is not responsible for breaking her part agreement as well as France you are far and truly gone into another dimension.
Ironside   
8 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

Yet again

Blabbing again Harry , boring Harry - cannot be bother to make an effort and corner you, just for you to disappear for week or two and then pop up with the same set of BS!

Was there major offensive of combined Anglo-Frances forces against Germany in 1939 - yes or no!
No? - end off!
What you want to discus next Harry ? You progressing decline of hairline ?
Ironside   
8 Mar 2012
Law / British managers superior to Polish [52]

Just watch the Olympics and eat humble pie, all the Polish “ Nie mogęr’s”

My take :
British managers are oftener more efficient due to environment.
To do something in Poland one needs to learn swimming in a glue. That those post-colonial, post-commies dudes and their cronies in charge !
Anyway most managers are ruthless bastards !
Stop gloating, it is not national character thingy!
Ironside   
8 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

Now do you see how stupid your stance is?

Not stupider than your request to me for providing evidence.

You are making a claim, it is for you to prove it, not for me to give evidence disproving it.

By the way that your modus operandi on this forum - so do not imply that you have any standards.

I'll ask again: where should the British forces have made a land attack

Ask your daddy !That is a stupidest question ever even by your standards.

Really? And what might those designs have been?

Really ! Look for evidence yourself! Hitler must be stopped - for example!

More lies from you: all of the German military personnel who fought against the Warsaw Uprising were fighting on the eastern front

More BS from you, supplies were being dropped not only during the Warsaw uprising. Anyway are you claiming that the fact that Poles were actively engaged against Germans did not benefit Britain ?

Britain could not have launched an offensive before all Polish forces in Poland

Britain was in close alliance with France.
The treaty of mutual defense signed by France, Britain and Poland - they pledged that if any of the signing parties were attacked the other two were immediately to aid in its defense.

France agreed to lunch full-scale attack within 15 days against Germany along German western border, and Britain promised RAF bombings of German military targets.
About six of September BOTH allies decided that will brake their promise to Poland and sell her down the river.
If Britain was somehow protesting, pressurizing France into action, hell doing her part and bombing German military installations(not one or two skirmishes) or otherwise making hassle I'm sure we would heard about that by now.

No, they both decided to brake their pledge and that is the fact Harry, not debatable fact !Unquestionable fact !
You are just going and going, debating facts, how ridiculous and pathetic individual can get, don't you have self-respect or a shred of dignity ?

Hell, you are not even British ! Why do you want to make Britain look worse in the eye of reader?
1939 is not her fault - blame France! Yalta and post war arrangements not to blame Britain - blame the USA! What kind of inept, tumbling along and will-less country you are trying to picture here? All that empire and colonies, just pure luck and favorable circumstances - is that your standing Harry?
Ironside   
8 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

But of course you cannot offer so much as a single shred of evidence of any price ever being agreed.

Can you offer any evidence that no price was paid?

And no Poland did not 'give it an honest try'

That is your opinion and to tell you the truth I don't care what you think.

Where would you like one to have been?

Whenever, you ask and ask and never listen to the answer.

Germany had no designs on Britain.

But Britain had designs on Germany.

Ironside:
German military personnel engaged in Poland instead for example British Army ?

German military personnel was engaged in Poland against Polish underground instead of being employed against British Army hence British supply dropped from planes were in fact working for Britain.

You mean the one which the French army refused to launch on any scale larger than was launched and the one which Britain had no forces in place with which to launch?

No in fact both France and Britain decided against lunching such offensive, both.
Ironside   
7 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

So that is a no you cannot tell us the price. OK, perhaps you can tell us what the USSR might have been able to pay at that time?

I'm sure they sold Poland cheaply !

You overlook the fact that the first act in the Nazi invasion of Poland took place on 25 August. How surprising.

and you overlook the fact that negotiations took a while before being signed.

And then sold the Ukrainian National Republic to the Soviets, despite her treaty obligations not to conclude a peace treaty with the USSR.

Yes we were cheated, they never paid, Putin were is our gold?
At lest Poland give it try an honest try. What cannot be said bout others - so **** off!

And yet again you lie about the actions taken by the British before all the Polish forces in Poland surrendered or ran away.

And yet again you talk rubbish! Where there any major offensive against Germany in 1939 ? No ? how very inconsiderate for your lies!

And perhaps you can remind us why Britain was fighting a war against Germany in the first place?

To stop Germany from taking over Europe !

Perhaps you can explain how dropping supplies over Poland is fighting for Britain?

German military personnel engaged in Poland instead for example British Army ?

And yet again you fail to answer the question of what support and assistance it was within Britain's power to give which was not given. How long will you ignore that question before your position becomes so obviously pathetic that even you can no longer support

Offensive against

uckily for the Czechs though they didnt have a history of p!ssing off the Soviets.

Germany together with French army !like about 14 of September !
They have hardly any history at all!
Ironside   
7 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

Really? Can you perhaps go into detail as to the price which Poland was sold for?

Why don;t you ask Britain to open her archives?

You mean the British guarantee which was given on 25 August, i.e. the very same day which the Nazi invasion of Poland started

1st of September not the very same day Harry.

I mean, we all know the price which Poland sold her Ukrainian allies and their country to the USSR for, it's in the treaty of Riga.

Sold my ass, Poland waged offensive to create Ukrainian state, Britain didn't fire a shot in 1939 in defense of Poland.Try and fail is not fault but promise and not deliver it is !

How nice of you to lie about all the brave men who died fighting for Poland.

They were fighting for theirs country not for Poland - end off!

So you blame Britain for France failing to act further than it did? You blame Britain for French military tactics?

I blame them both, they promised help for Poland they both failed to deliver.
Ironside   
7 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

With the decision being 'let the Poles have what they are claiming in the east of Germany.

No, it was let uncle Joe have his way. He hold all this lands in question anyway, let be practical. We can do nothing without war with uncle Joe, we already sold Poland down the river why would such detail as borders matter?

Why it is Britain's fault that Germany invaded Poland?

Because without Britain and France guarantees Poland would have to look for settlement with Germany.
Those two world powers at the time decided to use Poland as obstacle to Hitler progress in uniting Europe. He called their bluff and Poland paid the price!

Talking about propaganda would you explain to me why most of popular take at WWII in British history books states that Britain entered war to defend Poland

Although it is technically true that fail to mention they never delivered that help, If anything Poland and Polish soldiers were defending Britain.
She never did one single thing for Poland.

The ways in which Britain failed to live up to her obligations under the Anglo-Polish treaty of August 1939.

Failed to pressure France and to use her existing armed forces to assist in full scale attack at Germany whose main forces were busy in Poland.

Small wonder provided both countries were colonial powers used to sacrifice pawns on the world board.
Ironside   
7 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

I wrote about Polish lobbyist groups, Ironside! Plenty of Poles were abroad in 1945 and some of them surely had influence.

Somehow I doubt such groups existed and if they did that had been influential.

As I said I read about Polish territorital claims to territories west of Oder-Neisse a couple of years ago and I really don't know how trustworthy the source was, therefore I was asking this question.

I'm not sure but if there were any it would be by National Democracy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democracy

Who was making decisions Harry?

Please try to tell the truth.

Back at you !

It is demonstrating that certain people continue to repeat Nazi propaganda to this day.

Really ? Maybe that German propaganda pointed out the truth ?Why lie when the truth is even more damming?and obvious.
Ironside   
7 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

I found an interesting map the Western allies presented Stalin at the Potsdam conference,

What Polish claims ?The crux of the matter is that powers above were making decision about Polish borders.
Right Poles had climes but they never give up eastern territories, and definitely they wouldn't give up Lwow.
Poland with eastern Prussia part of Pomerania, upper Silesia and border on the r. Oder in the lower part of your map but with no significant changes of Poland's eastern border.

Harry
What that post is proving except that Germans used propaganda as did everybody?
Ironside   
6 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

simply insult me, as usual.

Insulting you would be as pointless as satisfying. Your insinuations - as if I was insulting you on daily basis, your arguing that white is black.

How about this: "England guarantees Polish borders","

Doesn't matter the treaty was to be understood in a way that France and Britain will attack Germany if Germany would attack Poland. They didn't deliver - what to discuss ?