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Polonius3   
12 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

PiS on 210, PO on around 180, PSL on 30 and the SLD on 30.

That would be a blueprint for disaster, ie a continutiaon of the Polish-Polish war which has been a huge waste of time, energy, money and human creativity. The tit for tat attacks and venous exchanges remind one of a kindergarten.

Although I obviously favour PiS a narrow PiS win with PO close behind would mean more of the same. Macierewicz will pull some off-the-wall stunt, Niesiołowski will spew his venom and it'll start up all over again.

So I would actually prefer a strong win by either PiS or PO, eg 40% - 22%, rather than 37% - 32%. Anything's better than more of that brainless slugfest! It's also hard to predict how the fringe parties will do: SLD, Petru, Kukiz, PSL, Korwin.
Polonius3   
12 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

in the past

The quesiton was not about the past but the futre. You seem to have a fair grasp of Polish politics, so could you envisage a formal PO-SLD coalition or only an ad hoc parliamentary voting alliance?
Polonius3   
12 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

Platform and the economist Petru

That would bolster the Platformers' hard-nosed pro-capitalist wing. By "razem " dis they mean Petru should join PO or form a coaliton after the poll? The problem is Petru is amongst the mini-groupings that may not make it under the wire. If Petru and PSL don't and SLD does, do you think would PO consider a a coalition with ex-commies and Katyń conspirators? You'd probably like that because it would envigorate PO's anarcho-libertine fringe.
Polonius3   
12 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

reflects reality

The only reality is that Poles no longer fall for "strachy na Lachy". PO functionaries and propagandists (like the notorious Julia Pitera) are working overtime to badmouth PiS and intimidate voters with a distorted picture of the glorious IV RP, but it's like the boy that cried wolf -- it just ain't workin' anymore.

The whole PO legacy has consisted in sweeping their own dirt under the rug whilst pouring scorn and ridicule on PiS. And it actually worked up to a point. But as Lincoln said: You can fool all of the people some of the time, some off the people all of the time (like the gullible PO voters of yesteryear!), but you can never fool all of the people all of the time. Even traditional PO backers are now seeing the light.

PO, your time is up. you've had your fun and feathred your nest. Now it's time to pack your bags and say goodbye to Wiejska: "Żegnaj Sejmie, żegnaj Senacie, żegnaj rządzie! Do zobaczenia w XXII wieku!".

And you can rest assured that the IV RP will remove that hideous rainbbow eyesore. There's a patch of barren ground on the outskirts of Rembertów next to the city dump where they can set it up so the freak parade will have something to march round -- far out of the sight of normal, decent, God-fearing Poles.

Please keep to the topic
Polonius3   
12 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

The ordinary Pole is defined as what, exactly?

90% of Polish society, the non-elite who do not have a finger in the pie, are not part of the "układ" (in-group, oldboy network), watch the plutocrats get richer as they themselves have to skimp and scramble to make ends meet. The ones who do not have savings accounts, cannot afford private healthcare, do not holiday abroad and at best own a 15-year-old car if at all.

Unlike your optimistic evaluation, average Poles remember the unkept promises, the raising of retirement age, the scandals (gambling, secret tapes, etc.), the veritable collapse of the state health service (appointments 6 months to 1 year away), delayed road-building projects, the use of OFE funds to shore up the budget and local abuses by PO fatcats. Add to that the exhaustion of seeing shifty-eyed Tusk and his PO menagerie on TV for 8 years.

Since about 55% of eligible voters are likely to vote that would be about 49% of the above.mentioned 90% of the nation. The overwhelming majority of them are expected to vote for PiS who are likely to win 38-40% of the vote. Those are the ordinary Poles.
Polonius3   
12 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

been a success in Warsaw and in Poland.

For corrupt politicians, scam artists, conmen, the shady business sector and those on the take -- definitely, but not for the average Pole, not for the Polish nation. You must live in a very sheltered environment and rarely interact with ordinary Poles if you still nurture such delusions. The verdict will be delivered in October. Bye-bye PO! And, hopefully, bye-bye radical a leftist expats! Go and make some other country miserable! Your ilk will not be wecome in the Catholic nad patriotic IV RP!
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

oo right-wing for my tastes

You must be to the left of Dzierżyński and Stalin!
Lech Kaczyński not only created the Warsaw Uprising Museum had also the courage to stop that cretinous "proud to be a freak" pink wig & feather extravaganza.

A snitch you are? Read some of the garbage and abuse posters put on the net about her.
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

mess up

Your beloved mayor Gronkowiec (like the staph infection she was named after) has cluttered and disfigured the city with her traffic-jam-promoting little black posts making parking all but impossible. Wilson Square (or Circle but plac can be either) as a roundabout should facilitate smooth traffic flow but she has installed 4 separate sets of stop lights in that small area. Most likely one of her PO cronies or his brother-in-law has made a killing by coincidnetally (?!) winning the tender to manufacture and instal those hideous little posts. And last I heard she still hasn't removed that hideous rainbow eyesore desecrating Our Saviour Square.
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

a coalition with PO

Under the right circumstances definitely. Besides the foaming-at-the-mouth libertines and the hard-nosed pro-capitalist contingent, there are still some decent, responsible conservatives in PO. Some go back to the Three Tenors whom Tusk disposed of to grasp total power.

However, my hypothesis envisaged only 3 parties in the Sejm. It is not inconceivable that SLD, Petru and maybe PSL (perhaps totalling 18%) will make it under the wire. A slim PO win would open opportunities for PO, but a slim PiS win would be disastrous to PiS. Again the size of the Kukiz vote might make the difference.
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

An unmitigated disaster

Caused by the PO hate industry, their constant undermining, backbiritng, badgering and badmouthing of the PiS-led government. Voters soon learnt that PO were the consummate scam artists and experts at sweeping their dirt under the rug. The tape scandal was one scandal too many!
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

who agrees on that take of yours,

Because that is now a minority view of those elitists who fear losing their perks and privleges not to mention bribe opportunities which were not discouraged by PO. PO created a hate industry designed to blacken, besmirch and badmouth PiS and kept intimidating voters with the PiS scarecrow. But it's like the boy who called 'wolf'. It worked a coupla times, but....
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

The law changed this year.

It must've been a pro forma change if dopalacze are still so easily obtainable.

Re Kukiz not having a programme - he has proposed a 2000 zł pay rise across the board and lowering men's retirement age to 55.
Wałęsa's 2000 zł pay rise after "S" was recognised led to the emptying of shop shelves and butcher's hooks. People strolled about with cases full of cash looking for a kolejka to join. If you didn't need what was being sold, no problem - you could barter it over to a neighbour.
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

dreadful coalition

Let's say PO narrowly win by 1-1.5% with only PiS and Kukiz in the Sejm. Do they form a coalition with their arch-enemy Kukiz? (For some reason Kukiz harbours an almost paranoid hatred of PO.)
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

Kukiz is fading badly

Kukiz voters would grudgingly support PiS but never PO which they view as the epitome of the "system" or "establishment" they hope to overthrow. Add Kukiz's 12-16% to PiS' 38% and we get up to 54% -- enough to rule indepedently. But that is theoretical because Kukiz is likely to retain some of his supporters -- maybe 8-10% so that would add only about 6-7% to PiS for a grand total of up to 45%.

Much can still change. The dopalacz affair in Katowice causing 50 people to be rushed ot hospital will remind voters of one of Tusk's many unkept promises -- to eliminate the designer-drug trade.
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

IV republic is a real threat to PO fatcats, scam artists and the whole "układ" of hand-washes-hand oldboys.

Dunno if you were around back then, but it was PO in a state of shock atfer losing in 2005 that scuttled any talk of a grand PO-PiS coalition. Interestingly in the summer of 2005 it was Komorowski who began the anti-PiS backstabbing, even thoiugh a grand PO-PiS coaliton was envisaged. Everyone inclduing PiS believed PO would come in first place.
Polonius3   
11 Jul 2015
News / Have PO (Platforma) operatives in Poland fallen into a panic? [332]

As successive polls show PiS in the lead, there are predictions of a possible 40% backing which would allow them to go it alone in government, PO operatives, often referred to collectively as Lemingrad (the part of Wilanów many of them inhabit), have fallen into a panic. In a last-ditch attempt to avert their electoral knockout they are dredging up dirt on PiS and trotting out the IV RP scare. Their elite forming "the arrangement" (układ) have made themselves a cozy nest during 8 years of PO rule and are now scrambling to size up post-election options. The "arrangement" is comparable to a 4-sided bridge table: corrupt liberal/post-communist politicians; shady businessmen; mercenary media; and individuals with links to past and present special services. Lemingrad naturally deny that any such "arrangement" even exists, claim everything is super democratic, above board and hunkydory (adding under their breath "as long as we are at the trough"). Ordinary Poles, however, can plainly see the PO regime has been very beneficial to a narrow elite of bankers, corporations and collaborationist media, but not to the average Pole. All indications are that Adam Nowak and Anna Kowalska aim to rectify the situation at the ballot box.

politykawarszawska.pl/index.php/article/80

Please put more thought into your thread titles in future.
Polonius3   
10 Jul 2015
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

here will be no incestuous marriages

You're a prophetess,a re you? Five, two, one year, no five motnhs ago mobody in his right mind thought homo marriages would be legal across the US and bingo -- one justice too many voted them in. Are you declaring to all and sundry that sexual permissivism ends in July 2015 for all time?!
Polonius3   
9 Jul 2015
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

gays and lesbians get up, take shower, have breakfast, go to work,

That is precisely the point and pertains not only to same-sex couples. When not in their bedrooms cohabitating brothers and sisters get up, take shower, have breakfast, go to work, pay tax, have lunch, dinner, go to movies, theater, shopping, on vacation... Why deprive them of the right to marry?
Polonius3   
9 Jul 2015
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

if you are Christian, you must be anti-gay

Terms should be deifned more precisely. Anti-gay means someone who believes homosexuals should be punished (anti-sodomy laws reintsated), jailed, beaten, deported or otherwise represeed. Believing accoridng to one's faith that marriage is the solemn union of a man and woman is not being anti-gay.

The parallel is calling someone critical of Israel's handling of the Palestinians an anti-Semite.

if you are Christian, you must be anti-gay

Re the Bible, many of the Old Testament bans and injunctions were abroagted by Jesus. These include an eye for an eye, dietary laws, Saturday Sabbath, etc. But equaitng homosexual conduct with abomination was carried over to the New Testament as were Thou shalt not kill, steal, bear false witness, etc.
Polonius3   
9 Jul 2015
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

ho the Four Brits are.

You've not replied to the hypothetical question I posed re incestual marriage rights.
Basically the broader quesiton is: is every law adopted or decision taken by the public authorities correct? Does anyone have the right of conscientious objection?

I admit I'm not the know-all some posters claim to be nor constantly trying to come up with witty repartees, because the subject at hand is far too serious for jokes. I yearn for a meaty, substantive discussion, weighing all pros and cons, rather than diversions such as "nothing to do with Poland", etc.
Polonius3   
9 Jul 2015
Life / Bureaucratic issues in Poland - I sorted complex problem using the telephone and email [37]

Merged: press 1, press5, press 12, press 23....(automated switchboards)

Do you like the press 1, press5, press 12, press 23 business when tying to contact some firm or institution?
I know it's done to cut costs for the company and to hell with the customer's comfort and convenience.
My question is: compared to live, normal flesh-and-blood receptionists taking your call and transferring you as required, how much shopping do recorded messages do at Arcadia or wherever, stopping on the way for a meal at McDonald's and topping up at BP or Orlen?

So isn't the press 1/press7 rigamarole nothing but a short-sighted saving which increases unemployment and does not spur consumer spending becoming therefore a drag on the economy as a whole?
Polonius3   
8 Jul 2015
History / Foreigners in Poland - 1980-1983 [9]

from non-Warsaw Pact countries

Of the foreign press corps in Warsaw at that time I know of only one foreign journalist ordered to leave. That was Ruth Gruber of UPI. She was the mistress of one of the Gdańsk Solidarność activists and received a notice to collect something at the post office. It was a packet of illegal (according to the Jaruzel gang) underground leaflets and the momnetn she collected it several plaincothesmen whisked her away. It was an obivious set-up. I don't think her reports from martial-law Poland were any different from the others, but the regime needed a scapegoat so the remaining correspodnents would watch their step. Why she was chosen I have no idea.After she was thrown out of Poland I later heard she was working for the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

I can't speak for the news photographers, TV crews and technicians working for Western news organisations, but I know of no other foreign correspodnent from AP, UPI, Reuters, EFE, ANSA, DPA or AFP that was ordered out. Naturally TASS, Novosti, ČSA and other Soviet-bloc reps had no such problems.
Polonius3   
8 Jul 2015
News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

tart thinking for yourself

Start thinking for yourself instead of knee-jerkingly springing to the defence of the Four Brits. I presume you too are resaonbaly intelligent. Try ot project yourself 10 years from now. Let's assume the incest marriage movement has established itself the way to gay marriage one did 10 years ago.And they are using similar arguments: we work, pay taxes, fall in love and want to marry. Why are we deprived of that "right"?

How to you react? Go with he flow or try to analyse all the pros and cons -- ethical, genetic, religious,political, cultural?
Polonius3   
8 Jul 2015
News / Heil-Hitlering Korwin-Mikke in European Parliament [29]

does not make him dishonest

Read up, dig around and you'll find the guy is a crook.

"stupid like a fox"

Of course foxes are clever, crafty and sly. That's an American joke which you apparently did not get.