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Ant63   
7 Apr 2012
Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]

Are you a lawyer?

No but I have personal experience of this, through my partners experience, and through this experience it was imperative I understood both Polish and English child law, The Hague Convention for Abducted and Illegaly Retained Children and The European Rights of a Child intimately. From my experience in Poland it was apparent that few lawyers understood Polish Law properly and that almost no Polish lawyers understood or even knew about the Hague Convention. Most would lie and tell you they did though. :)

There is more to this story

Possibly, but you have been presented facts by Anglik1 and you cannot make your own assumptions by reading between the lines. Thats pure fantasy which of course will have your own swing based on your life experience. I know how hard it is to stand back and take neutral stance on such an emotive subject. The plain truth is, some women are bad to the bone and some men are bad to the bone. Most are OK.

The facts as presented are that Anglik1 has done what he needs to do to protect his rights as a father which he would most likely lose if his former partner leaves England and uses a Polish Court. This is fact. He was simply asking for further advice on protecting his interest in his child and ultimately the childs right to a father.

For Anglik1, I hope this will have a BALANCED ending if not a happy one.

For me, it is important that people have a window into what could happen in their relationship and thay are armed with information to protect their child. I have seen the devastating effects this has on everybody involved and would not wish it on anyone.

I have no connection with REUNITE other than using their services. Reunites website provides details on how to protect your child and how to prevent child abductions. I do know that Reunite tried very hard to put information into the Polish community earlier this year but had zero response. Strange from a country that is near the top for child abductions from the UK. The Spanish community has similiar problems and they had a massive response from them.

Please note that Reunite is a charity, does not take sides and is available to both partners no matter what country you are in. Language may be an issue though.
Ant63   
6 Apr 2012
Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]

I dont understand why you would not be named on the birth
cert, unless you dont live in the same home.

Pretty simple really. Go to the registry office and tell them the fathers unknown.

I don't think Anglik needs to post any more info. He has posted enough to show that he does not want to lose contact with his child. Why should he when all he is acheiving is drawing fire from Polishmomma and f-stop who both have their own agenda.

As far as I can see this man has done nothing more than protect his rights as a father in a country that will allow him to do so without the racial prejudice that would occur in a lot of other countries including Poland. Poland has demonstrated it's racist attitudes on numerous occasions through ridiculous Hague Convention rulings.

If people could see the wood through the trees, they could put themselves in exactly the same situation themselves. It does not matter if you are in an interracial relationship/marriage, or a same nationality relationship, it could happen to you, and DON'T believe for a moment it won't. My partner didn't believe me and put her childrens right to see their father ahead of this risk. The rest is history but 6 months of suffering ensued with only one person happy at the carnage, the father.

A simple example that occurs is a Polish couple living in England quarrel daily and husband has enough, books a flight to Poland or drives taking children with him and leaving momma behind. Under international law, he has abducted his children because he has taken them away from the country of their habitual residence without the permission of the other adult with parental authority. Under Polish law, he has done nothing wrong. This is where Polish law fails Polish people terribly even though Poland has ratified the Hague. Sad but true. Unfortunately for the Polish mother, her life is now in control of the father, completely. Of course she has access to the Hague from England but because Poland is obstructive and takes 3 months to get a Hague to a first hearing with amateur judges. Hague hearings take place in family courts with junior judges with little experience or even understanding of international law. Other countries use their High or Supreme courts for such serious affairs. This court will be fiercely against a Hague process and push for the use of the Polish process.

This women is now in despair. While her husband has the children, he has complete control and she will need court orders to see the children. There is nobody in Poland that can help with this situation. Nobody. If she goes with the Polish process, it could take three years to reunite her with her children if at all. What of her life, and more importantly her childrens life in England. Who is thinking of them. The courts are protecting the father, when they should be protecting the children. She could stick with the Hague and be looking at six months but with a case heavily weighted against her. After all Poland produces perfect blond blue eyed children that Norweigens want to steal. (From the Nicola Norway case where Rambo abducted a Polish child taken into care from alchoholic abusive uncaring parents after long period of help and warnings from the Norweigen authorities. These parents were later proclaimed as model parents that all parents should look up to in Poland. Set your standards low enough and no one can knock you down.).

As you can see this is an unholy mess. It is completely unfair that the children should be put through this.

What Anglik has done is the only solution that will benefit the child. The position he has put himself in is to protect his Parental Authority until the courts decide what is better for the child/children. His partner may not be prevented from leaving the country with the child in the future, but she may if the judge decides she will deny Anglik his parental right. Rights of visitation etc.

If his partner leaves the UK with the child before resolving custody etc, without doubt a Polish court would limit or remove parental authority from Anglik.

So my message to Angliks attackers are, wake up, he has done the right thing by the child and this could happen to you too. The only selfish act I see here is the mothers attempt to deny her child a father. This is not her decision or his, because neither parent owns the child, it is a "child of the state" and it is the states ultimate duty to protect its children. Sometimes parents are so blinded by the situation they are in, that cannot see the damage they are doing and the potential time bomb they are creating which is exactly why we have laws to protect children.

Go take a look at reunite.org and find out as much as you can before its too late for you and your children.
Ant63   
2 Apr 2012
Love / When will Poland put children first? [5]

I don't need advice. I am in a position where I can give advice.

Currently I can't because it is a legal situation. In actual fact it's not me going through anything it's two children and a Polish mother. I don't need advice as I understand English, Polish and European child law and it appears many an advocate in Poland doesn't even understand Polish law or they have their own interpretation of it which differs significantly from the Polish Supreme Courts. Most law has basis in the Family and Guardianship code from communist times. It simply doesn't fit the bill for a country in the European Union. I think it was 1994 the child laws were opened for change in Poland but no one stood up and changed anything. It was probably just a half hearted nod to the Union that Poland was going to change.

I am assuming you are a Polish woman in America. If that is the case you are probably unlikely to have experienced "stupid decisions" by a Polish court. If I'm wrong I apologise. When I can publish, and I WILL, I will do so in full and there are a few people on here that may want to distance themselves from the truth about how Poland treats its children. Alas I think we have a couple of years more suffering for the children.

When its all going wrong, the courts are quite happy to risk a child well being, unless they can see blood. Sad but true.
Ant63   
2 Apr 2012
Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]

My partner and I have great experience of parental abduction. Hopefully you have contacted reunite.org. If not do so. Unfortunately you won't get much sympathy from most Polish people as they don't appear to have any concept of law outside or inside Poland and Polish law, appears not to be applied, but made up as they go along when it comes to children. They don't understand what the Hague convention is about and think its a personal attack on Polish people, not a convention that protects every nationality that signs it and works both ways. It's a sad state of affairs that it comes to this.

The primary concern should always be the child.

If you want a chat PM me and I'll send you my number. I may be able to give you an insight into what will happen if she does go back to Poland and how you should respond.
Ant63   
2 Apr 2012
Love / When will Poland put children first? [5]

I'm not sure about what you are specifically talking about in your post

I am talking about Poland specifically and what appears to be Poland's drive to keep families together at all cost to a childs welfare and Poland's ridiculous legal system that fails children repeatedly by failing to have any system (that is usable or painful enough) to uphold court orders. The police don't get involved and a 30zl fine from the court is hardly going to deter someone from ignoring an order. It's laughable really. Another example of failure that we have direct experience of is that it's possible to present 5 totally different statements to court in Poland about the same thing, and still be given the opportunity to be heard over a period of months. I would think in most western countries, two would give you the benefit of the doubt (just), three, there would be no further questions as your making it up as you go along.

The kurator system is a joke. From our experience you are dealing with biased, uneducated people who go out with a preconception, and write a report confirming such when it's quite obvious somethings not right. It stinks of, "it looks like too much work" which appears to be endemic in Polish public sector.

Periodically I get a little distressed by what is happening to my partners children. I cannot believe Poland can be so uncaring about children and put parents first under the pretense of doing things correctly. Taking six months to decide that a 5 yr old child should be returned to its mother is appalling by any stretch of the imagination particularly when its a clean situation legally. It's 10% of the childs life. Polish people do seem to live in denial or really don't have a clue about the reality of the Polish legal system. I would not like to think differently to this but sometimes its hard when you get comments like "thats acceptable in Poland". It shouldn't be.

I am biased but only slightly. They are not my children.
Ant63   
2 Apr 2012
Love / When will Poland put children first? [5]

As some will be aware my Polish partners children were abducted and hidden from the police for several days along with other malicious acts being carried against both children and partner.

What has happened since defies all logic and most of all compassion toward the children.

The first problem I can half accept but not fully as it is a breach of international law and defies common sense.
Brussels II clearly states that any procedures involving children should be held in the country of their habitual residence. The judge argued that she was perfectly capable of doing this. This would be 100% acceptable if she was party to all facts about the children's welfare, education etc in the country they live. The sad fact is, it appears there is little or no interest in these facts, but a lot of interest in their previous life in Poland two years ago. They can't even speak Polish properly any more. Not from a lack of effort on behalf of the mother who speaks to them in Polish, while they reply in English, but because it is their choice.

Next up. What the hell are people thinking about with what I can only describe as a "Competition" with going to the court psychologist to determine who gets the children. Does the court honestly believe it can get an accurate picture of two adults and their children in 5 hours without finding out information from outside sources? Two plastic people with ulterior motives. On most occassions, manipulated children. Two psychologists with a hidden agenda, in the pay of the court, therefore, unable to make an objective report as their income is directly related to making the judge happy. It would be funny if it wasn't child abuse.

And finally for now. If a man can abduct children and abuse them, does this mans character change when he becomes a Policeman? It does in the eyes of a Polish judge. The judge says she can trust him if he is a Policeman. The same Policeman that takes mobile phones in exchange for traffic tickets. Hmm! Is it thinking about the children's welfare when a court orders that the same man that abducted them, can have them for 10 hours without supervision or is it a subtle form of child abuse? Does the court think these children would be happy to be put in the same situation from which they were abducted? They are seriously distressed.

When will Poland put children first?
Ant63   
10 Mar 2012
News / About fifty injured after two trains collide in Poland [73]

You need to remember that the vast majority of the deaths on Polish roads (4,572 dead in 2009) are caused by human error and that relatively few people here get hugely upset about that.

There does seem to be a blatant disregard for human life in Poland from what I have seen. I think it's the A1 they are building over from Germany to connect up with the section to Poznan. Where they were building the bridges cones funneled the traffic and narrowed off the road directly under the new bridge. Not in a smooth fashion over a distance but abrupltly over 50m approx with nothing seperating the traffic from both directions other than luck. We drove this route several times and each time I had the urge to spell out my utter disbelief at what I was seeing to my Polish partner who was a non driver so was oblivious to the danger. Low and behold on our last drive down this route we have a head on collision between two trucks.

This WAS going to happen. It was OBVIOUS it was going to happen so the attitude must of been SO WHAT!
Ant63   
10 Mar 2012
UK, Ireland / Increasingly more Polish children born and educated in UK can't write/read! [51]

Could you sketch more less how they work?

Jolly damned phonics. This has to be the biggest joke in UK education at the moment. For anyone that hasn't seen this yet you are in for a suprise. For example an "L" is now pronounced "UL". Now find me an English word starting with "L" that can be pronounced "UL". It's rubbish and confusing when you have a letter like "A" that is pronounced in different ways dependant on oiuts relation to another letter.

I was told by someone in goverment that Jolly Phonics was introduced to schools by means of free materials; books, audio, etc which of course schools took up because it saved them money. A couple of years later having changed away from a long standing system that worked the materials became chargeable but to change back would have left some children in the wilderness.

Why use of course, a lack of language doesn’t equal bad behaviour

You are missing the point because it is not as simple as just a lack of language. We are adults and have developed self control and don't need to attention seek like a child. Surely you had slow learners in your class at school. Where these the ones who were regulary in trouble for minor but disruptive offences in school? Because they can't get the acclaim they feel they deserve by succeding in class they choose alternative methods of drawing attention to themselves. This is problably not on a conscious level and of course it's generalising but you can't begin to undestand any issue. I remember the gardenning crew from school well, and I also knew most of them well. One or two were plain bad but most of them were good lads really who had too much time on their hands.

So my point is if as a child you can't fit in and do what the other children are doing then you will become a shinking violet or attract the wrong kind of attention. So only partially to do with language but as language is generic to this topic its relevent.
Ant63   
27 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Increasingly more Polish children born and educated in UK can't write/read! [51]

are just meant to "get on with it".

You are completely wrong. Without going into too much detail my partners eldest was 6 when he arrived in the UK. Already at a significantly different level of education. Precisely zero. Unable to hold a pen properly and none of the motor skills to write. He was not an exception. It appears to be the norm. So he starts school with zero English in September. What a nightmare for the child. Of course he was uncooperative and disruptive. What else could he do. Contrary to the OP we only had English TV and my partner translated to English for him. We had daily meetings with his teacher, who, because we put the effort in to find a way forward for him, put the extra effort in too. It was notable that the other Polish children in his class had no such support from their parents. The other parents in fact, could not understand why we spent so much time after school with the teacher and explained it was not their problem to educate their children it was the schools.

By december it was possible to have a form of conversation with him in English. Most importantly he had established freindships with English children and we did everything possible to make sure these relationships were maintained outside of school. It's hard work and to make it work you have to make sacrifices that a lot of people don't seem to be able to do.

At the end of his first year he had advanced considerably but he was still massively behind the other children. His Polish language was becoming broken with lots of erm erm erm and sentences formed incorrectly. Although his English by now was on a par with his mums he was really lost between the two. It's a difficult time as to correct the English he needs to read and because he is now a little older, there are more interesting things to do than read. Again it's a lot of hard repetetive work but you get there in the end. He can now read and write but at a very early level. Because he can now read a little, he is now more interested, so learning becomes faster and more intuative.

The sad thing to see is that many of peers have no such support and can barely string a sentence together in English and have no reading or writing ability and many of them have been in the UK longer.

What future do these children have?

I am not the father of this child but I believe it is my duty while he is under my roof to provide him with the most important thing for his future, an education, without which he will have no expectation of better things and will remain at the bottom of the pile. It's not enough to fatten them up and keep them warm. Lifes tough.

not having much of a choice

Of course they have choice. They chose to put their child in a difficult position. They should also choose to help their child.

Can you tell me what choice an English child would have in Poland? We already know the answer don't we. It comes down to money and if you can afford to send your child to English or American school.

This is a bogus thread,

I doubt this is a bogus thread as the OP has made a sincere well thought out post. The post is on a Polish forum but it could have been made on any other nationalities forum. It is a problem that is prevelant everywhere in the uk now. Peterborough has some serious problems as some classes have a higher number of foreign children than English children and some time back I saw a news article where English parents were threatenning to withdraw their children because they were being held back so much.

This is not aimed at you Sean but there really are a lot of ignorant, "Polish know better" people on this forum. The truth is we are all in the mix together and there are problems that need to be discussed in an intelligent manner. Attacking someone for posting the truth is at best unhelpful. Solutions need to be found. I am aware that some Polish children are excelling in UK schools. A friends daughter is top of everything, speaks both languages fluently and is learning a third. She is a credit to her parents. The problem is an awful lot are getting left behind. It needs sorting and the only wat to do it is open up and listen to what someone who knows is saying (mines from trial and error so I don't count). Then discuss it in an intelligent helpfull manner.
Ant63   
27 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Increasingly more Polish children born and educated in UK can't write/read! [51]

This is rubbish, what are they feckin mute? what a load of bull. How the heck are kids from country "A" who live in country "B" not able to speak either language?

Well quite obviously tou have no experience of this like many of the PFers above so it's best you don't make comments that are factually incorrect.

Having first hand experience of this, the truth is many Polish parents in the UK are failing their children by not getting involved in their education and are too busy critising the school because poor little Piotr was in the playground without his coat on. It's not the schools job to give the child a basic education it's the parents.

The truth is, and we have heard this first hand, some believe that because they have a job and don't speak English, it's just fine for their child fail in school because he/she can be the same as mum and dad.
Ant63   
2 Feb 2012
Life / What is the school bus security standard in Poland? [18]

you need to inspect and test vehicles to see their up to safety regulations

They don't seem to be to tough on this testing in Poland judging by the state of many taxis in Poznan.
Ant63   
26 Jan 2012
UK, Ireland / Do Polish Shops in Ireland sell cigarettes? [6]

Problably as they do the same in the UK. They get busted every now and then but don't get the same treatment as if they were UK citizens as they just carry on doing it.
Ant63   
26 Jan 2012
UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]

If I move to Bangladesh, have a child with me Irish partner, can that child claim to be Bangladeshi and claim it as his or her own nation?

It depends totally on the laws governing that country. I believe if you are born of French parents you can be nothing but French in French law, no matter where you are born. I may be incorrect, but in Poland, if they want you, you will be Polish even if you are French.

He is British, and no, the Poles will not just blend in, for a high percentage make no effort to expand their horizons beyond a Passat or an A4 and renting a room.

The question should be, who will be "British" when the next war starts?

Exodus.
Ant63   
25 Jan 2012
UK, Ireland / Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK? [402]

They were not race riots, they were black riots.

So you are suggesting the Poles involved were black also.

Check some of the videos and play spot the Pole.

I would suggest that it is not ancient racism but a new brand of sectarianism based on nationality.
Ant63   
24 Jan 2012
Love / Child support in USA order (child born in Poland) [56]

Don't bother writing to Polish Goverment organisations. The response will be more or less feck off your not Polish and even though I read and write in English I'm not going to help you unless you write in Polish..

You need to get to Poland and see a good lawyer. Do your research first as most lawyers will treat you as a cash cow and are not very good. It is hard to find a good one, I know from experience, but there are a few out there. First of all disclose her rough location, for example Poznan, and ask for personal reccomendations here for good solicitors. Don't post her address, thats not nice and really stupid.

Prepare yourself for a suprise in ccourt. You will be everything evil under the sun but the generally the Polish judges are prepared to listen and will support you in your efforts to see your child. The most important thing is you provide evidence. You of course will be portrayed as an alcholic but where is her evidence? You can pre empt this by getting a hair test done. Do not rely on the court providing an interpreter, you must arrange this and fund it yourself.

Evidence Evidence Evidence. This is the most important thing in a Polish court.

I wish you luck if your true intentions are to have a relationship with your child. If it is purely to make her life a misery, think very carefully what you are doing. Live and let live and file it away in the draw of experiences to learn from.
Ant63   
10 Jan 2012
Love / My PL GF wants name on bills, morgage, and business [35]

If you are happy to gamble with a very weak hand, do it. If not run as fast as you can. This doesn't just go for Polish birds. They are all a risk. Mind you this one sounds a little more astute than most.
Ant63   
7 Jan 2012
UK, Ireland / Polish and English law on child access? [14]

Pam it is a civil matter. That is why. You would get the same response in Poland without the explanation.

It's not that expensive and if he is on a low income, he may get it for free. You cannot do anything from Poland as you are not in Polands juristiction. You can only enforce the court order through the UK courts. I can give you the contact number of a Polish Solicitor working in the UK who is very experienced in these matters. I'm sure she would give basic advise over the phone. There are other implications with this that are far more worrying than you imagine.
Ant63   
7 Jan 2012
Life / What is wrong with Poznan? [197]

My only critisism of Poznan is the footpaths but once you have busted up your big toe a couple of times, you learn.

Oh yes I almost forgot the learning curve with trams. Hold on tight people or you might be putting your hand in a suprised persons lap in an attempt at not falling on the floor. Young ladies don't smile when you do this. Very embarrassing.
Ant63   
7 Jan 2012
UK, Ireland / Polish and English law on child access? [14]

You do not need a Polish Lawyer. You will be wasting your money.

This comes under Brussels II agreement. A foreign court must enforce the decision made by the court in Poland.

Go to a UK solicitor they will get the order enforced in a UK court. The UK courts always abide by this, unlike the Polish courts.

If you want further information contact me by PM. It may be pertinent to do this as this man needs to protect his position NOW. I am not a solicitor but I have a lot of personal experience in this field.
Ant63   
3 Jan 2012
Law / Poland's Zloty 43% undervalued [30]

The current level is just ridiculous

It makes me wonder how people survive on the chronically low wages it appears the majority recieve.
Ant63   
1 Jan 2012
Law / I need to stay here in Poland to see my child. [18]

Divorces are not that easy to get

Its not so bad now, it's only when one muppet wants to show it's the other persons fault. Then it's a long drawn out process wasting a whole load of tax zlt. Daft system if you ask me but I'm not Polish.

As an alternative, and you have to move fast with this one, scoot on home and start a divorce from your own country. Voila, you are in the driving seat and you will definately get a fairer deal. This assumes she has not started the divorce in Poland and your home country is Brussells II signatory. It works on the court first seised having juristiction. You will problably have to stay home though, as it could be considered as shopping for a better settlement. If she has started the divorce, you may still have time as the Polish process is incredibly slow, so even if she has started it is entirely possible the court would not be seised until a couple of months have passed.

Of course a Polish lawyer will tell you you can't get divorced outside of Poland but thats only because they are not aware of, or have not read Brussells II or cannot rationalize it with Polish law. It's there in Black and White though and it works.

Might be worth remembering this information for some forumites. Ya never know.
Ant63   
24 Dec 2011
Life / Why is Polish Christmas on the 24th? [87]

It appears there is no consensous of opinion amongst the forum members, and information you can find on the Internet.

This is my first Polish xmas in the UK and all I can say is so far I'm appalled by the whole charade. Presents give 3 weeks before, presents every day for the last week. Relatives competing against the mother by trying to buy bigger and better every day. Miserable brothers and sisters (adults) concerned they are getting less. Controlling mother in law(Grrrr!). A display of everything that is wrong with people. Where the hell Santa Claus comes into this nightmare, god only knows.

I'll miss my Romano British christmas day when we all wear paper hats for lunch to demonstrate the fact everyone is equal for one day and the children are happy with the presents they open on christmas morning.
Ant63   
23 Dec 2011
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

However, I've already explained why the title is ungrammatical, and why I suspect that the OP may not necessarily be a native speaker.

The fact it's not gramatically correct in this instance confirms he is English.

I'm gone too.

EDIT HERE

Sorry will add this as Vincent responded so quickly

calling

Calling in this instance is exactly as described before "calling names". Basically it's just lazy speaking that has evolved as part of the language. TBH I don't agree with speaking in this way but it is prevelant in general language today. You can still understand what is being said by the context "calling" is used in.
Ant63   
23 Dec 2011
Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

apart from the OP.......if he is a native speaker Im a 12 foot Dutchman with a blue arse.

For xmas you will be a 12ft durchman with a blue arse

You just need to look at the title - he's clearly translated "wyzwajÄ…" as "calling", but hasn't changed the sentence appropriately ;)

He just omitted the word "names" after Polish girl.

Sorry Vincent but I must add you to the list also. He omitted nothing.

Another 12ft Dutchman.

As a native speaker of English, I can confirm this is actually English. Try reading "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac for an alternative take on the English language. It may broaden your understanding of a very complicated language, few master, including me.

Are you teachers by any chance?

Have a nice day tomorrow.