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Teffle   
2 Feb 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

it seems to me

Yes, it seems to you - well it would wouldn't it? As I said.

It seems to many that there are no discernible differences between Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Russian, Polish...cultures.

Basically, you don't know!

You can think what you like.
What is the obsession anyway - cultural envy or something? : )

Irish culture is about individual freedom and self-govern society.

See what I mean? No doubt works with a few more countries too.
You'll have to do better than that.
Teffle   
1 Feb 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

I'm only asking but you are making excuses not to answer my question.

I'm not - you need to make it clear what it is that you want to know for a start.

Firstly you appeared to reject the suggestion (@ post# 67) that Ireland has a different history, language, culture to Britain. Do you honestly think this?

Then, you seemed to expect a description of Irish culture. Better men than I have spent their entire academic careers attempting to define "culture" for a start, but assuming we can agree that it refers to a way of life, socially and psychologically, then the parameters will be mostly the same for every country.

The references will always be concerning the arts, family attitudes, attitudes to work, to socialising etc. A Hungarian might say "oh we have a rich unique tradition of literature and folklore, families are close and consulted on decisions, us Hungarians work to live rather than live to work....etc etc... and this could apply to half the countries in Europe. Unless e.g all Estonians are obssessed with cloud formations, there are very few unique points of reference for any country or culture.

Everyone likes to think that their own culture is unique (within reason) and many people, from a distance, view other cultures as similar to each other. The other problem is that to define your own culture, to really distinguish it, it is usually necessary to make invidious comparisons (e.g. unlike the Germans we think abc, Although to the French xyz is important, in Ireland we...whatever) and that is just asking for trouble.

So although I could provide you an answer of sorts, it's not easy to do so, and basically my explanation will invariably be disputed as many other countries will say "what's Irish about that? sounds like Polish/Dutch/French as well"

Put it this way, can you tell me briefly and clearly about "Polish culture" ?

Maybe you can try, but I guarantee that I could substitute at least 5 or 6 other countries in place of Poland and the description will still make perfect sense.

You have to live somewhere, or at the very least visit, to get a real flavour. Your nationality and own culture will define and filter your experience anyway: the experience and "cultural report" of a Finn may be very different that of an Italian.

I'm sure it's not the answer you want but it's all you are getting from me anyway : )
Teffle   
31 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

You mean Danny Boy

An English song, popularised in America and sold/played to tourists who want to hear something familiar and who think it's "traditional"

green hats

See: red/white hats/T-shirts for Poland.

language nobody is really using any-more

About 10% daily, fair enough.

But by that token the cultures of Australia, the US and Britain are all "the same" because they speak the same language ?

Guinness?

Yes, it is consumed obviously - so do you think vodka drinking defines Polish culture?
Teffle   
31 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

You guys are going about culture and all

Where have I "gone on" about it?!

Put it this way, I can understand how to "outsiders" you may not see much of a difference but ask any Englishman living in Ireland or any Irishman living in England.

The differences are not so obvious as e.g. Germany v Italy.

The differences are sometimes subtle, sometimes less so. Many (not all, or most, but many) British or Irish people don't see much of a difference, culture-wise, between e.g. Lithuania & Poland but it doesn't mean it isn't there.

It's difficult for me as an Irishman to comment on because anything I say will be either construed as negative or simply disagreed with. You would get a better view from maybe a Pole who has lived in both countries for a reasonable length of time. I really don't want to get into it.
Teffle   
31 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

You mean to say that you don't know?

No, just that I'm not about to write an essay on the subject unnecessarily.

You questioned "does she?" to the post above.

Simple answer -

Yes, obviously: different history, language, culture.

I'm asking about that so often mentioned Irish culture.

Well you can always google for an overview ; )
Teffle   
28 Jan 2011
News / Pubs in Poznan kick out Roma? [256]

What's the problem here? Pubs are privately owned and every owner has the right to refuse people

Yes, to an extent.

White guys also get refused sometimes, including myself.
Then why is it a problem if Roma, negroes or other nonwhites get refused?

The problem is people being refused based entirely on their ethnicity, background - whatever - and not because of them as an individual.

Just as an employer can refuse to employ someone for a variety of reasons, it can't be because they are a woman, gay, roma etc.

That is discrimination. But I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Im not going into details but Ive known too many " Irish travelling folk" to get all sentimental about them.

Well I don't think anyone is getting "sentimental" about them - just realistic.

You seemed to be make invidious comparisons between them and gypsies & roma - who have their own sizebale share of scumbags too. I've encountered enough of them for anyone to form a bad impression also.

They are not a seperate race but they are a seperate "culture" and sorry to say its as enlightened a culture as Sharia Islam.

Has anyone here tried to maintain otherwise? Gypsy "culture", roma "culture" and plenty of so called civilised/settled cultures - they are all primitive, backward, sexist, homophobic etc etc
Teffle   
28 Jan 2011
News / Pubs in Poznan kick out Roma? [256]

Teffle,they are Irish,what else do I call them? They are not Roma,or Sinti etc,not even Gypsies.
The racialy Roma people I know have nothing to do with them.
So no,when white irish tinkers are responsible for dispraportianatly so much crime its hardly rascist for one (part) irish white man to call another white irish man anything is it.

Completely the wrong end of the stick.

"Pikey" is what I highlighted.

Do you know it's considered as bad as "nigger" ?

Anyway - what can I say? Yes, many are lawless, intimidating, violent - but most aren't. I know a few travellers quite well (and many more in a more casual way) via a friend (social worker)

Roma are the same - most are OK but many are scroungers, scammers, thieves etc. I encounter them regularly too.
Teffle   
27 Jan 2011
News / Pubs in Poznan kick out Roma? [256]

Surely there are anti-discrimination laws that would cover this blanket ban type of thing anyway - no?

irish pikeys

Oh no no no - you can't say that you know ; )

(Although kind of ironic using the term when you talk about racism in almost the same breath)

: )
Teffle   
26 Jan 2011
Real Estate / Where to live, where to avoid in Krakow [28]

I don't believe that Scottish cities are extremely unsafe

Historically, it has that reputation alright. Not so sure if it's still deserved.

These days in the UK, you are more at risk in the more mundane (to me, anyway) places like Leicester, Nottingham and, of all places, Southampton.
Teffle   
25 Jan 2011
History / Poland obliged to make war reparations to Austria and Germany after WWI. Why? [119]

And which part of Britain does the name Zamoyski come from, it's definitely not English and it doesn't sound very Welsh or Scots either. he may have been born in Britain and have a British passport, but I doubt he's neutral on the subject

Doesn't mean anything. Many people in Britain have "foreign" names.

The comedian Ricky Gervais for example hates the French.
Teffle   
25 Jan 2011
Language / Changing Polish punctuation? [23]

Anyway ... it's not "western", as you seem to think.

Speaks volumes about the general stance of Polonius about "the west" then.
Teffle   
24 Jan 2011
History / Bolesław Chrobry beat Terry Wogan's ancestor in battle [9]

no, don't tell me - half of Ireland is related to him too. Sure got around ...

LOL - no, I haven't heard of a Séamus Mądry yet.

Didn't actually see the programme although they were talking about it on Irish radio this morning - was it good generally speaking?
Teffle   
24 Jan 2011
History / Bolesław Chrobry beat Terry Wogan's ancestor in battle [9]

You don't get any Brownie points in Ireland by saying you're a descendant of Norman invaders!!

Well in reality it's not exactly controversial though - or rare for that matter.

D'Arcy, Devereaux, Fitz-anything, Barry, Butler, Martin...all common surnames in Ireland, all Norman.

I'd say everyone in the country has one or two friends with Norman derived surnames.
Teffle   
21 Jan 2011
Travel / PKP (Polish National Railway) is a turn off [47]

Actually,it's called 'Polish Reality'...Learn to live with it

LOL - sounds like exactly why the problem continues to exists.

Why should ANYONE put up with rudeness and bad service? You are PAYING for this.

Unbelievable.
Teffle   
20 Jan 2011
Travel / PKP (Polish National Railway) is a turn off [47]

mouthy PKP service (one is enough)

I don't get this. In my experience customer service in general leaves a lot to be desired in Poland but people just seem to take it - do they?

If I was paying good money for public transport in Ireland (which I don't usually) and one of the staff was "mouthy", it certainly wouldn't be the end of it.

Basically I'd do my best to ensure that they lose their job and depending exactly how "mouthy" or insulting they were, may meet up with them outside of their work, down some alley and really upset them.

Does nobody complain in Poland? Is it regarded as pointless?
Teffle   
20 Jan 2011
Travel / Best way to get from Lodz to Warsaw? [48]

very few people speak english,

Partially my experience but I didn't find this to be the case in hotels, restaurants and bars anyway.
Teffle   
19 Jan 2011
Travel / Best way to get from Lodz to Warsaw? [48]

For info about £ódź, you'll have to ask someone else.

Don't know if Zetigrek is around much these days but she lives there (I think) and is nice & helpful - I'm sure she can advise.
Teffle   
19 Jan 2011
Travel / Best way to get from Lodz to Warsaw? [48]

Grand on Piotrkowska 3/4*.

It's nice and very central. Old world - lots of dark woods and brass, huge rooms. Staff speak English, no problem.

In fact, there was one absolutely stunning receptionist there a few years ago as well : )