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Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

He did, 80% of all combat aircraft were used in BoB, the remaining 20% were being serviced, repaired or canibalized, in the later stages of BoB UK outproduced Germany 5:2 fighters and trained 3 pilots for every 2 german.

We are talking 4 months here...if GB would had been a real war, a real objective of Hitler, it wouldn't had been only 4 months, believe me!

I'm not even sure what that battle was meant to be....it was never enough to achieve anything...in the same kind as why did Hitler let the Brit army go away at Dunkirk...it's puzzling.

Yes because they were islands,

You can blockade islands much easier than a land on a continent.

Both RAF and USAF were superior to Luftwaffe,

*rolls eyes*

What a superiority...if your best make barely even the 20 victories mark, whom are you kidding!

He's right to an extent, RAF (Red Airforce) was flying Polikarpovs and other junk,

No he isn't....the russians had fine machines. The Yak-1 or Sturmovik rings a bell?
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Last time I checked England was in Europe

Well...;)

and just stop with this German aces.

I'm a fan of our Luftwaffe and their fliers I must admit...I own biographies of Hartmann and several others.

If Russians had better airplanes there would not be so many of this German aces.

You don't know much about the russian airforce during the war, don't you...
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

I've even seen accounts from German pilots saying that the RAF was suprerior, and that they hadn't faced an enemy like it before.

Yes, that's why british aces are so disproportional present in the list of air aces of WWII...oopsie! ;)

You never faced this one!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann

lost BoB invasion of England not possible

Yes, those four months of air skirmish after the british army were kicked out of Europe were horrible...uncomparable to the holidays all over Europe 39-45...yup!
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Read your own arguments again!
Hitler never turned the full might of the Luftwaffe on GB, he wanted to avoid a war with them for his own reasons...tell me seriously if you believe that the Islands could have survived an onslaught of the german forces as Poland, France or Russia had to face?

Honestly please!

How is Dresden these days anyway? Still full of praise for the great German pilots who took such care of the city?

Well, never said it was smart of Hitler to let the Brits go away.
He was betrayed by them in a way too...they never repaid in kind.
In the end they specialized in terrorizing civilians as they had not much else to bring to
the allied military table...
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Man..you are only repeating your mantra...bring something new, okay?
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

History showed that GB lost!
They were kicked from the continent and needed the US to help them to come back...and together the US+Russia wore Germany down.

That is the history folks...not more, not less.
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Thanks for the compliment but downtalking the reds, your allies who saved your arses, isn't going to explain the low ranks of RAF pilots on the aces list I fear...
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

you are right BB Germany lost the skirmish BoB which lead to loosing ww2, ether way Germany lost.

That would mean that GB was pivotal to the outcome of WWII...not the US and surely not Russia...you are not serious, aren't you!

Either way, your list has nothing to do with the outcome of that battle, which UK won.

It becomes interesting if you claim you "defeated" the Luftwaffe, that the RAF was somehow superior to the German pilots...

It shows how ridiculous these claims are!!!! :):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

I don't know why it's so hard to accept that you were defeated there.

Because we weren't!

It never was a real battle like the rest of Europe, Poland and especially Russia had to face...so stop squeezing you in the same line.

I do not even see authenticity and verification of this 'list', sir

Well, there are alot of books out there if you don't believe Wiki...tire yourself out.
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Yeah...defeat...ROFL.
Wanna have a look at the aces chart again????
Not many Brits there and so far down the ranks it's not funny! ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_World_War_II_aces

Shouldn' Brits lead all the ranks if they defeated the Germans? No? Heh:)
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

God Marek, look at the timeline again, the BoB was not a war, it was a skirmish, from From July to October 1940...that was NOTHING!!!! 4 month! That was all!

After the France war and before Barbarossa, these were real wars and were important in the Chancellory and the High Command...get that through your head!

*rolls eyes*
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Sorry no, we are not too small for that.

Well, yes you are...the british islands can never compete with an 80 million people, highly industrialized, armed to the teeth country.
You were no different to the rest of Europe the army overrun...only GB weren't on the menu.

If Hitler had meant really business he didn't even would had needed the Luftwaffe...concentrating on a blockade with the wolf packs would had been much more efficient!

In no time GB would had been forced to negotiate, as did Germany after WWI. Such a blockade becomes nasty very soon. And starving people are much more agreeable to any kind of change!

But Hitler had a soft spot for you...don't make it to something it wasn't only because it pleases your ego...
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Yes...and now re-read both arguments you made...one of them doesn't fit. Can you spot which?
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

If we had developed a huge army like the Nazis had, then there would have been a more equal ground fight between UK and Germany.

But you couldn't! You're to small for that.
Even so you needed the pathetical slaves from your colonies to help you out...

But again, you were the aggressors, we, the defenders.

Who forced you to declare war on Germany? Hitler never had real plans to invade the Islands (or he WOULD had turned the forces on you but he never did)

And not on the equally agressive Russians btw...they invaded Poland too after all....a Poland you had sworn to protect!
Which after the war ended up unfree and opressed by an british ally...what were you defending again?
Bratwurst Boy   
29 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

It means like with the whole war GB NEVER faced the true might of the german war machine.
They were coddled and more or less left to themselves - not quite smart by Hitler but then he had his own priorities.
Without the US and the Russians they would speak the language of their ancestors today! ;)

That's why some armchair warriors bragging about "we won" grates on my nerves....

The English language has more than one prominent influence.

Nope! They are our beloved cousins and they speak our language, more or less! ;)
*hugs random Brit*

And who cares who won WWII as the next football world cup is coming up! We can refight the BOB everytime there...ha!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

The US acredits them with providing language and culture.

Well, accredit us, english is just a german dialect after all!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

BB, you were beaten even with the ratio being 2:1. Yes, the numbers were closer to being even into the 2nd half but your strategy was wholly flawed. Goering retreated with his tail between his legs.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_World_War_II_aces

Compare the pilots....how many german fliers are above hundred, two hundred and even three hundred victories - the first Brit in this list? Hmmm....19+5...not bad, but hardly equal fliers!

The fact is that the RAF was just too good for the Luftwaffe.

Oh boy...

It says, that he had the intelligence not to get into a long war with the British,

It was a stupid thing to do...taking GB seriously would had spared us much bragging by nowadays Brits (and Scots)
No illusion of "we beat 'em", "we won" would now be possible...
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

What nonsense, BB. We won the BoB and still emerged as a major power.

You Scots gave yourself up to serve the English, Seanie. You emerged nowhere...but even the English lost their Great Empire after the war and became servants to the the US.

And no...you wouldn't had survived 6 month if all that what was busy on the Eastern Front were allowed to have a go at your islands! Be real!

But you weren't even a priority for Hitler, says alot, doesn't it...
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

We beat Germany, one on one, in the battle of Britain, by air. So we saved our own arses.

No you didn't! Sorry to destroy your bubble...
Hitler let you go away, as before with Dunkirk!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Always remember the Luftwaffe were beaten by the Brits in an equal fight.

Equal fight??? You got to be kidding!
Our best weren't even there....look at this list what your pilots never had to face:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_World_War_II_aces

Imagine them turned on you, not on the Russians...
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

We had many fewer troops in France to the Nazis, that's why were were defeated at Dunkirk.

You always had few troops than the Nazis, so what...you never faced the true might of the german war machine, you were molly-coddled by Hitler who till to the end nourished some fantasies of if not an alliance then at least an agreement with the Empire.

It's incredible how anytime a German looks at that situation, they fail to see Germany's millions of troops and our few hundred thousand only...

It's incredible how anytime a Brit looks at that situation how he can state he "won" anything...
The US and the Russians saved your arse, say thank you to them.

So to include you in "we won" is more than only a bit...erm....deceptive.

But Germans wanting towns back, that they stole,

*rolls eyes*

It wasn't about polish towns, it was about fully german towns...there were even plebiscites made by the League of Nations - people voted for Germany!

The Sudeten weren't even allowed to take part in the promised plebiscite by the new chzech overlords in the first place.
(Not that that interested anybody mind you)
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

So as with any colonists, expect that. I've no sympathy for any hate we get for our british colonialisation also

You even fight on a far away continent like South America for some british sheep...please refrain from blaming Germans wanting their towns back!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Hindsight, PP...20/20 hindsight is everything! *sighs*

The UK was equal with the US in beating the Nazis.

Oh pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!

The UK was Dunkirk...you came only back onto the continent holding desperatedly onto the tail of the US troops!
And D-Day was only possible and successfull because most of our troops and our best were busy fighting on the eastern Front. That means the Luftwaffe too...you don't seriously believe the UK would had had a chance against the german troops if they had been concentrated on your islands instead of the russian steppes, don't you!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

What if Germany were asked to be divided between France, Poland and Austria-Hungary?

You don't expect your Poles to accept injustice? But you do so from the Germans...We lost 1/4 of our territory and millions of people, whole towns...not to mention industry and fertile soil. It was a partition with many Germans now placed in new countries opressed and harassed!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

What would have happened if Germany had just stayed in Germany?

What if Poles had relinquished their independence? Impossible, right?

Also for many Germans Hitler righted things which were just wrong...that wasn't possible with "staying in Germany" as this Germany was cut down and weakened by the Treaty they all protested against.

Still, we won the war

The US and Russia won, Seanie...you were a loser too in the end! There was not much Great in Great Britain anymore after the war...
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Sok, you have focussed more on Britain than the root cause of the war, Nazi Germany. What's with that?

Might be because Germany never posed himself as ally and promised help and support to Poland...(just a hunch)

Quite to the contrary Germany was always quite honest and serious with his plans...no betrayals here!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Yes, but if they refused did they get a bullet in the head, or did they have their family members tortured?

What do you think? Of course...
Do you really think the army made a difference if the draft dodger were a Reichs German or a Volksdeutscher???
The Führer needed soldiers and he got 'em!
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Surely you are smart enough to realize that these people were most probably forcibly conscripted?

Yeah...most of the Wehrmacht soldiers were forcibly conscripted! ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
28 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Ummm...;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Seelow_Heights