pawian
17 Jul 2012
Travel / VISITING POZNAN, can anyone suggest places to visit including good bars/clubs? [16]
Books.
I mean was it website or friends etc. ?
Books.
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Food / 16 century Italian contribution - salads in Polish dishes [2]
Did you know that Italian diplomats who spent time in Poland complained about Polish food as based mostly on meat? One Pole eats as much meat as 5 Italians, said one dimplomat.
But it changed with the arrival of a certain Italian princess in 16 century.....
1994 marked the 500th anniversary of the birth of a Polish Queen who, because of her love of fruits and vegetables, changed not only the Polish palate, but left a lasting influence on the language as well. We cannot relegate her to the kitchen, however, because she had a regal upbringing which predestined her to play a leading role in the politics of the Polish court.
Today, Bona is probably best remembered in the kitchen. Coming from sunny Italy she brought her own cooks, gardeners and horticulturalists. She introduced many foods, especially vegetables. The Polish language reflects this in the many terms for vegetables that it has assimilated from Italian.
Italian Polish English
cavolifiore kalafior cauliflower
insalata salata salad
fagioulo fasola bean
pomidori pomidory tomatoes
leguinini leguminy legumes
melone melon melon
limone limonia lemon
sciroppo syrup syrup
zucchero cukier sugar
confezzione konfekcje candy
torta tort cake
salciccia salceson headcheese
lasagna łazanki lasagna
maccheroni makaron macaroni
info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroom/Bona/Bona.html
Queen Bona Sforza, who was Italian royalty, married the widowed Polish King Sigismund (Zygmunt) I (the Old) in 1518. Vegetables other than cabbage and root vegetables were virtually unknown in Poland until Sforza introduced them. Many Polish words for vegetables, in fact, are taken directly from Italian -- kalafiory (cauliflower), pomidory (tomatoes) and sałata (lettuce), for example.
To this day, soup greens are known as włoszczyzna or "Italian stuff." Włoski is the Polish word for "Italian." Try using them in this Fresh Polish Mushroom Soup Recipe. The name for cucumbers in sour cream -- mizeria -- is attributed to Queen Sforza because she is said to have cried out of loneliness for Italy everytime she ate this salad.
easteuropeanfood.about.com/b/2010/10/01/queen-bona-sforza-brought -vegetables-to-poland.htm
But certain food historians claim that fruit and veg had been widely used in Poland before Bona`s arrival.:
Renaissance
Along with the Italian queen Bona Sforza (second wife of Sigismund I of Poland) many Italian cooks came to Poland after 1518. Although native vegetable foods were an ancient and intrinsic part of the cuisine, this began a period in which vegetables like lettuce, leeks, celeriac and cabbage were more widely used. Even today, some of those vegetables are referred to in Polish as włoszczyzna, a word derived from Włochy, the Polish name of Italy. During this period the use of spices, which arrived in Poland via west Asian trade routes, was common among those who could afford them, and dishes considered elegant could be very spicy. However, the idea that Queen Bona was the first to introduce vegetables to Poland is false. While her southern cooks may have helped elevate and expand the role of various vegetables in royal Polish cuisine, records show that the court of King Jagiello (who died in 1434, over 80 years before her reign) enjoyed a variety of vegetables including lettuce, beets, cabbage, turnip, carrots, peas and cauliflower.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_cuisine
Never mind the disputes.....
My family`s dishes in wonderful Polish Italian style - veg and meat:
Even nspaghetti has some veg!
Anyway, thank you, dear queen Bona!
Did you know that Italian diplomats who spent time in Poland complained about Polish food as based mostly on meat? One Pole eats as much meat as 5 Italians, said one dimplomat.
But it changed with the arrival of a certain Italian princess in 16 century.....
1994 marked the 500th anniversary of the birth of a Polish Queen who, because of her love of fruits and vegetables, changed not only the Polish palate, but left a lasting influence on the language as well. We cannot relegate her to the kitchen, however, because she had a regal upbringing which predestined her to play a leading role in the politics of the Polish court.
Today, Bona is probably best remembered in the kitchen. Coming from sunny Italy she brought her own cooks, gardeners and horticulturalists. She introduced many foods, especially vegetables. The Polish language reflects this in the many terms for vegetables that it has assimilated from Italian.
Italian Polish English
cavolifiore kalafior cauliflower
insalata salata salad
fagioulo fasola bean
pomidori pomidory tomatoes
leguinini leguminy legumes
melone melon melon
limone limonia lemon
sciroppo syrup syrup
zucchero cukier sugar
confezzione konfekcje candy
torta tort cake
salciccia salceson headcheese
lasagna łazanki lasagna
maccheroni makaron macaroni
info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroom/Bona/Bona.html
Queen Bona Sforza, who was Italian royalty, married the widowed Polish King Sigismund (Zygmunt) I (the Old) in 1518. Vegetables other than cabbage and root vegetables were virtually unknown in Poland until Sforza introduced them. Many Polish words for vegetables, in fact, are taken directly from Italian -- kalafiory (cauliflower), pomidory (tomatoes) and sałata (lettuce), for example.
To this day, soup greens are known as włoszczyzna or "Italian stuff." Włoski is the Polish word for "Italian." Try using them in this Fresh Polish Mushroom Soup Recipe. The name for cucumbers in sour cream -- mizeria -- is attributed to Queen Sforza because she is said to have cried out of loneliness for Italy everytime she ate this salad.
easteuropeanfood.about.com/b/2010/10/01/queen-bona-sforza-brought -vegetables-to-poland.htm
But certain food historians claim that fruit and veg had been widely used in Poland before Bona`s arrival.:
Renaissance
Along with the Italian queen Bona Sforza (second wife of Sigismund I of Poland) many Italian cooks came to Poland after 1518. Although native vegetable foods were an ancient and intrinsic part of the cuisine, this began a period in which vegetables like lettuce, leeks, celeriac and cabbage were more widely used. Even today, some of those vegetables are referred to in Polish as włoszczyzna, a word derived from Włochy, the Polish name of Italy. During this period the use of spices, which arrived in Poland via west Asian trade routes, was common among those who could afford them, and dishes considered elegant could be very spicy. However, the idea that Queen Bona was the first to introduce vegetables to Poland is false. While her southern cooks may have helped elevate and expand the role of various vegetables in royal Polish cuisine, records show that the court of King Jagiello (who died in 1434, over 80 years before her reign) enjoyed a variety of vegetables including lettuce, beets, cabbage, turnip, carrots, peas and cauliflower.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_cuisine
Never mind the disputes.....
My family`s dishes in wonderful Polish Italian style - veg and meat:
Even nspaghetti has some veg!
Anyway, thank you, dear queen Bona!
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]
Yes, but where and why???? :):):)
Let me start a series of riddles from the Polish seaside 2012:
Where can you see such signs?
Yes, but where and why???? :):):)
Let me start a series of riddles from the Polish seaside 2012:
Where can you see such signs?
pawian
17 Jul 2012
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]
Next:
A kid book translated into Polish from another language, about a mole who tries to find out who shittted on his head:
Which country does the book originally come from?
Next:
A kid book translated into Polish from another language, about a mole who tries to find out who shittted on his head:
Which country does the book originally come from?
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]
Yes!!!!! Instead of China, the production line is located in Poland! Since 1948! :):):):)
Yes!!!!! Instead of China, the production line is located in Poland! Since 1948! :):):):)
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Law / Are Polish the same as Belgian?? [8]
I second that on one condition: the mayonaise is Polish produce!!
I couldn't agree more.
never tried, But that pic makes me want to ;)
I second that on one condition: the mayonaise is Polish produce!!
pawian
17 Jul 2012
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Feedback / Daily/Weekly Polls (suggestion) [19]
??? How???
Besides, they would prevent a lot of arguments on the forums, wouldn't they?
??? How???
pawian
17 Jul 2012
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Language / Improving Polish reading comprehension and vocabulary. A downloadable collection of passages? [14]
Ogien
mylanguages.org/polish_reading.php
Ogien
mylanguages.org/polish_reading.php
pawian
17 Jul 2012
UK, Ireland / Rural England - thoughts on living in the countryside [4]
I suppose immigrant Poles don`t move to rural areas in England. They prefer to stay in cities.
I suppose immigrant Poles don`t move to rural areas in England. They prefer to stay in cities.
pawian
17 Jul 2012
History / Poland's fate if the second world war didn't happen? [4]
I know this map. :):):):)
Yes, Ukrainians, Belarussians and Lithuanians would rise one day or another.
Don`t forget that the pre-war government`s plans for the future war were also grand and bright.
The reality proved different, though.
I know this map. :):):):)
Yes, Ukrainians, Belarussians and Lithuanians would rise one day or another.
The plans were grand and our future looked bright.
Don`t forget that the pre-war government`s plans for the future war were also grand and bright.
The reality proved different, though.
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Genealogy / Is Czarnecki Really A Polish Or Actually A Sephardic Jewish Surname? [110]
I like it.
They did or didn`t. Actually, who cares?
How do you like that?
I like it.
We Jews might've brought "Czarnecki" into Poland.
They did or didn`t. Actually, who cares?
pawian
17 Jul 2012
History / Poland's fate if the second world war didn't happen? [4]
Poland was modernizing, as you said, but do you think that Germany and USSR wouldn`t?
Poland was modernizing, as you said, but do you think that Germany and USSR wouldn`t?
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Feedback / Daily/Weekly Polls (suggestion) [19]
Polls are a good idea. I remember one or two throughout 4 years I have been here.
Polls are a good idea. I remember one or two throughout 4 years I have been here.
pawian
17 Jul 2012
USA, Canada / Greenpoint is still Polish? Nightclubs and bars for Poles. [18]
They started leaving after I had left.....
They started leaving after I had left.....
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Life / 1960s Polish film - please help me identify [2]
Sorry, I spent some time trying to identify the film but can`t.
Sorry, I spent some time trying to identify the film but can`t.
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Law / Are Polish the same as Belgian?? [8]
Probably yes, but there are substantial differences. E.g., we don`t eat French fries with mayonaise.
Delicious:
Are Polish the same as Belgian??
Probably yes, but there are substantial differences. E.g., we don`t eat French fries with mayonaise.
E.g., we don`t eat French fries with mayonaise.
Delicious:
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Language / The Polish word for fart? [28]
Thanks! I like it! :):):):)
You are a scary smart mtherfcker,
Thanks! I like it! :):):):)
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Language / The Polish word for fart? [28]
I tried to find the original but can`t. Who has a copy of American Boys by Steven Smith to tell us how it goes in English what Morgan says to a new soldier arriving in vietnam?
On the last page of "American Boys", doesn`t one of the main protagonists say: Popieprz bąka, a bąk brzdąka.. ??
I tried to find the original but can`t. Who has a copy of American Boys by Steven Smith to tell us how it goes in English what Morgan says to a new soldier arriving in vietnam?
pawian
17 Jul 2012
Language / The Polish word for fart? [28]
On the last page of "American Boys", doesn`t one of the main protagonists say: Popieprz bąka, a bąk brzdąka.. ??
could be bączki (plural diminutive of bąk, sing. is bączek)
On the last page of "American Boys", doesn`t one of the main protagonists say: Popieprz bąka, a bąk brzdąka.. ??
pawian
16 Jul 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]
What a paradox, isn`t it?
They were reasonable people so they knew that any attempt to regain their lost old land acquisitions would mean another war with Poland.
I don`t want to sound cynical but Polish cities were destroyed more thoroughly by Nazi Germans than German cities by AngloSaxon/Soviet allies:
Frankfurt
Warsaw:
From here: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187906&page=18
Get lost, agent of foreign influence. :):):):)
Yes, my German friend. :):):):) As for now, I don`t demand any reparations from Germany for WW2 losses.:):):):)
The final acts of official reconciliation took place in mid 1990s and early 2000s. Poland joined NATO and European Union, in both cases with substantial German support.
Today the official relations are so good that Polish Foreign Minister openly calls for Germany to be more active in Europe. It is probably caused by the fact that Obama`s US has been slowly losing interest in this part of Europe.
To achieve that, Poland needs Germany to play a much more active role in Brussels in promoting both a strong defense policy and a more creative foreign policy approach towards the EU's eastern neighbors.
carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/?fa=show&id=47677
Why not?
History shows that Poles and Germans weren`t natural born enemies, but were able to live and work together, eventually mixing into one nation.
I wrote about German settlers in Poland in this thread
Germany now is 40 percent smaller as it was in 1912 but it's economic importance is bigger than ever.
What a paradox, isn`t it?
Yes, Germany did not volonteer to transfer her territories east of Oder-Neisse to Poland in 1945, but Germany has accepted it. And the former German inhabitants of those territories have it, too!
They were reasonable people so they knew that any attempt to regain their lost old land acquisitions would mean another war with Poland.
I don't want to sound cynical now, but looking at the experiences West Germans made in rebuilding their destroyed cities, it seems to be much easier to rebuild an almost completely destroyed city
I don`t want to sound cynical but Polish cities were destroyed more thoroughly by Nazi Germans than German cities by AngloSaxon/Soviet allies:
Frankfurt
Warsaw:
From here: skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=187906&page=18
Poland need to regain their eastern lands stolen from her by Stalin.
Get lost, agent of foreign influence. :):):):)
So does it sound right to you if I write Poland got a halfway compensation from Germany in the form of the Oder-Neisse territories
Yes, my German friend. :):):):) As for now, I don`t demand any reparations from Germany for WW2 losses.:):):):)
The final acts of official reconciliation took place in mid 1990s and early 2000s. Poland joined NATO and European Union, in both cases with substantial German support.
Today the official relations are so good that Polish Foreign Minister openly calls for Germany to be more active in Europe. It is probably caused by the fact that Obama`s US has been slowly losing interest in this part of Europe.
To achieve that, Poland needs Germany to play a much more active role in Brussels in promoting both a strong defense policy and a more creative foreign policy approach towards the EU's eastern neighbors.
carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/?fa=show&id=47677
in both cases with substantial German support.
Why not?
History shows that Poles and Germans weren`t natural born enemies, but were able to live and work together, eventually mixing into one nation.
I wrote about German settlers in Poland in this thread
pawian
1 Jul 2012
Language / Learn Polish or Russian [86]
Learn Hebrew, then.
So pretty much I'd rather learn Polish but I'm a little iffy on the decision to.
Learn Hebrew, then.
pawian
1 Jul 2012
Food / Polish Preserves, any recipes? [14]
The Jewish love for all things sour and pickled transcends cultural and denominational boundaries. As culinary historian Claudia Roden writes in "The Book of Jewish Food," in the 19th century, pickled vegetables, and particularly preserved cucumbers, cabbages and beets, "were staples in the diet of Jews in Poland, Lithuania, the Ukraine and Russia." There, pickles were served with bread and often made up the center, and sometimes the entirety, of a meal - especially during the winter months, when fresh produce was scarce.
The Jewish love for all things sour and pickled transcends cultural and denominational boundaries. As culinary historian Claudia Roden writes in "The Book of Jewish Food," in the 19th century, pickled vegetables, and particularly preserved cucumbers, cabbages and beets, "were staples in the diet of Jews in Poland, Lithuania, the Ukraine and Russia." There, pickles were served with bread and often made up the center, and sometimes the entirety, of a meal - especially during the winter months, when fresh produce was scarce.
pawian
1 Jul 2012
History / Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years? [195]
Poland Past and Jews
Poland Past and Jews
pawian
1 Jul 2012
History / The story about German- Polish reconciliation [194]
Poles don`t consider these territories as reparations but merely a compensation for the lands lost in the East on behalf of the Soviet Union. Untouched Polish cities in the East like Lvov and Wilno were traded for destroyed Gdańsk and Wrocław.
And the myth of better developed ex-German lands doesn`t hold water here as Poles know that most ex-German cities were destroyed and required extensive rebuilding, and the facilities and industries were not only heavily damaged or destroyed but also stolen/robbed by the Red Army. Even ex-German railway tracks were removed and transported to the USSR.
Poles had to start from the scratch, so called.
Correct me if I am too opinionated on it. :):):):)
Poles don`t consider these territories as reparations but merely a compensation for the lands lost in the East on behalf of the Soviet Union. Untouched Polish cities in the East like Lvov and Wilno were traded for destroyed Gdańsk and Wrocław.
And the myth of better developed ex-German lands doesn`t hold water here as Poles know that most ex-German cities were destroyed and required extensive rebuilding, and the facilities and industries were not only heavily damaged or destroyed but also stolen/robbed by the Red Army. Even ex-German railway tracks were removed and transported to the USSR.
Poles had to start from the scratch, so called.
Correct me if I am too opinionated on it. :):):):)
pawian
30 Jun 2012
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]
:):):) You described a scene from a film. However, I wasn`t at a set. :):):)
Where is this statue?: Why is this doll special?
:):):) You described a scene from a film. However, I wasn`t at a set. :):):)
Where is this statue?: Why is this doll special?
pawian
30 Jun 2012
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]
Yes!!! The master was so loyal to his dog that he decided to preserve its skin. :):):):)
What is going on?
Yes!!! The master was so loyal to his dog that he decided to preserve its skin. :):):):)
What is going on?
pawian
30 Jun 2012