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Bratwurst Boy   
9 Jun 2010
History / Actually, there never was any Polish-German hatred [149]

Austrian, Czech and German

German, Bohemian (mostly German) and German you mean? ;)

And where did I mentioned Posen?

And in that Silesia I' was speaking about Germans were actually the first to settle ever, 2000 years back, and were the majority still before the World Wars, 2000 years later!

I'm not speaking about heartland...I'm the first to acknowledge the unique make up and history of Silesia...I'm proud of it.

But on the other hand I encounter to many Poles who want to deny any german part of silesian history at all or paint us as invaders for some decades only, for political reasons.

That's so wrong too!
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Jun 2010
History / Actually, there never was any Polish-German hatred [149]

As far as I know Poles are free to settle in Germany and vice-versa and there is
a co-operation between border regions, so maybe there is a chance to rebuild
what was destroyed as a result of WW2 mostly.

Yes, of course! :)
It will happen quite naturally...

The problem is that Germans are not only not willing to settle in Poland, they are
even fleeing the Eastern regions of Germany itself, so at the moment it's not our
fault that there isn't too much co-existence of Polish and German populations.
As far as I'm concerned, Germans are welcome to settle and work in Poland.

But even if not...alone the possibility and freedom to do so takes the bitterness and sting out of it.

PS: What are we going to do about the next silesian football talent? Should he become a superstar for Poland or for Germany...hmmm...:):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Jun 2010
History / Actually, there never was any Polish-German hatred [149]

Actually the rich history ended when Germans invaded Poland stealing its lands,

Land it got only from the victors of WWI to punish Germany with the treaty of Versailles.
(They did the same to your chum Hungary btw)
This treaty spawned Hitler, WWII, mass destruction - but at least the Poles got what they wanted, right? Right!

But with the german Silesians your football team would had to show some good players at least! ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
9 Jun 2010
History / Actually, there never was any Polish-German hatred [149]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia#Demographics

Silesia has been inhabited from time immemorial by people of multiple ethnic groups. Germanic tribes were first recorded within Silesia in the 1st century. Slavic peoples arrived in this territory around the 6th century.

In the Middle Ages, Silesia was divided among many independent duchies ruled by various Silesian dukes of the Piast dynasty.
During this time, cultural and ethnic German influence increased due to immigrants from the German-speaking components of the Holy Roman Empire. Between the years 1289-1292 Bohemian king Wenceslaus II became suzerain of some Upper Silesian duchies.
Silesia subsequently became a possession of the Bohemian crown under the Holy Roman Empire in the 14th century, and passed with that crown to the Habsburg Monarchy of Austria in 1526.
The Duchy of Crossen was inherited by Margraviate of Brandenburg in 1476 and, with the renunciation by King Ferdinand I and estates of Bohemia in 1538, it became an integral part of Brandenburg.

In 1905, a census showed that 75% of the population were Germans and 25% Poles.

Predominantly german since 2000 years. Whose Silesia?
Bratwurst Boy   
8 Jun 2010
History / Actually, there never was any Polish-German hatred [149]

There were few Germans left in Silesia after the war

Well, that seems to be a misconception.
Sure it wasn't very popular after the war but there seemed to be many more Germans left than previously thought.

Only Germans were drafted into the Wehrmacht (till nearly the end of the war as they grabbed everybody), so Volksliste I or II mainly...
All those Silesians who were able to digg out "grandpa's Wehrmacht papers" had every right to german citizenship!

And that were alot!

PS: Another misconception seems to be that Poles talk about the polish Silesia when they say "Silesia", but we mean mostly the german Silesia where the overwhelming majority had been German for centuries and who voted to stay in Germany after WWI. Germans fair and square!

...
Not the whole population of the formerly German Silesia was expelled after the war. Over 1 milion Silesians who considered themselves Poles or were treated as such by the authorities due to their language and customs were allowed to stay after they were verified as Poles in a special verification process. It involved declaring Polish nationality and an oath of allegiance to the Polish nation.[36]

In the official Polish census, 153,000 people declared German nationality, though up to 500,000 or more may be of German ancestry

And that are numbers AFTER the war, the flight, the expellation and the emigration waves...
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Jun 2010
News / Germany - We won't let Poland drown! [28]

it is that Serbian blood in Germans that force them to helping to Poles

Of course!

It's our serbish blood wanting us to go visiting them all the time and keep them with us! :):):)
Bratwurst Boy   
7 Jun 2010
News / Germany - We won't let Poland drown! [28]

I'm actually waiting for the Bundeswehr to come to help....

1996 as our flood catastrophe set even Dresden under water she was indispensable!
Bratwurst Boy   
4 Jun 2010
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]

Well considering that France and Germany had a pact with Poland stating that if Germany were to attack Poland France and Britain would come to her aid,

Really....

i didnt read whole topic so sorry if this was said already but
first to help us were hungarians, :D not in the military way tho
but they help us only for sole purpose of helping
Thanks Huns!!

Huns were allies of the other huns, ya know? In BOTH wars! ;)
They didn't came to Polands rescue...
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Jun 2010
Life / HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE POLAND IN 2010? [84]

Because rise of the modern German state was largely due to Jews(from Poland) and their financial influence,

???? Really... And here I've thought it was due the rise of nationalism during the wars of liberation against Napoleon and Bismarck!

Interesting to learn it was the polish Jews... Oh boy Iron...that was a good one!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Jun 2010
Life / HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE POLAND IN 2010? [84]

what do you mean? do I agree with you?

Because Morgenthau was a Jew, that's why....

Planned destruction of a whole people is what the Nazis are accused of. Interesting to see people demanding exactly the same who blame otherwise the Nazis.

I don't think Africa's state of affair is the result of some plan or conspiracy though...
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Jun 2010
Life / HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE POLAND IN 2010? [84]

nevertheless the plan was good ...

If you like wars and unrest...then it was a great plan!

Germany would had existed anyhow, Soviets or not....the question was if it would be the motor of Europe or the black hole of it? There is no Europe without the Germans...;)
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2010
Life / HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE POLAND IN 2010? [84]

To have a buffer against the Soviets they needed a commie free Germany (and other western european countries).

What do you think was the more successfull buffer...a happy, well fed, people? Or a starving, restless, unhappy morgenthauish black hole?

Without the Marshallplan the commies would had had an easy game...Stalin wouldn't had even needed to invade, no revival of Europe at all.
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2010
Life / HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE POLAND IN 2010? [84]

good plan

Bad Plan...no european revival after the war whatsoever with a black hole in the midst of Europe...no "machine" to drag all along! ;)

The minds behind the Marshall plan knew that..
The other short sighted idiots, like you, would only had spawned WWIII in the end!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Jun 2010
Life / HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE POLAND IN 2010? [84]

Western Germany received money from the USA and other countries after WWII to rebuild its economy. It was called the Marshall Plan. This is why the western Krauts were able to get back on their feet in a couple of decades (they also imported a lot of immigrants to help rebuild the country). It's not because the Gerries work harder.

You wish! ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan#Expenditures

Germany got less than GB or France....but no British or French "Wirtschaftswunder" and the Gastarbeiter were sought because the already up and running german industry run out of workers due the quick growing...it didn't did the growing because of the guest workers!

Are you that stupid or are you playing the fool only?
Bratwurst Boy   
30 May 2010
History / Miracle of the Vistula 80th anniversary? [56]

Yes, from the rotten West, of course.

Never pegged you for a closet commie! :)

No, you brought the subject of the invasion to support your claims that East Germans fought so bravely against communism,

Erm no, the whole bruhaha started with Borrka trying to picture Poles as the lone resisters in a sea of commie lovers and weak opportunists.

But the facts speak otherwise...

East Germans were pus.sies.

Again...the commie Poles didn't needed a wall to jail their people in, they stayed voluntarily. No killed Poles trying to leave their paradise either...and the polish tanks on the streets of Prague crushing the really brave Czechs tell it otherwise to.

Germans had their uprising, the Czechs, Hungarians...face it, there is only one people who deserves the name "pussies" of the Eastern Bloc!

Think about that if the world talks about the Prague Spring, The Budapest uprising and the Berlin wall when they remember the cold war and the end!
Bratwurst Boy   
30 May 2010
History / Miracle of the Vistula 80th anniversary? [56]

No, I;m not. It was a powerful symbol and a powerful barrier, protecting a tiny fraction of German Inner border.

Protecting???
It split the Western part from the Eastern part as far as I know...that "tiny fraction" was from the north down to the south...what are you on here?

Poland, Hungary, and East Germany, invaded the ČSSR. That night, 200,000 Warsaw Pact troops and 2,000 tanks entered the country

That wasn't the reason why I asked...
Are you really trying to prove your assertation that the Eastern Germans where all supporting communists with showing that they together with the brave, communism fighting/resisting Poles participated in the killing of the uprising of the likewise communism loving Czech weaklings???

'm afraid you are losing me here....:(
Bratwurst Boy   
30 May 2010
History / Miracle of the Vistula 80th anniversary? [56]

The wall was insignificant in keeping East Germans inside the paradise.

Erm...you are joking, right?

Memorial to the Berlin Wall Deaths

Yes, and they did so alongside their East German comrades. That's German history 101 for you.

??? Are you drunk?
Bratwurst Boy   
30 May 2010
History / Miracle of the Vistula 80th anniversary? [56]

East Germans, in their cooperation with the Soviet commies were unrivaled, although Czekoslovakians came as close second.

Yes, that's why the commies needed to build a wall in the first place...to stop the commie Wessis from storming in to the East..;)

And you are right of course, the famous Prague Spring uprising (which the brave Poles helped resistingly to destroy) was one big happy happening to celebrate the workers and farmers paradise! ;)

Polish history 101!

PS: Stop wondering why the rest of Europe sees history differently...:):):)