USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


How nice of you to once again demonstrate your masterly debating skills. However, might I draw your attention to the rules of this forum:


Your posts in this thread are littered with both insults and personal attacks. I fear that you may soon find that in the same way that certain people can not come to Europe, certain people are not permitted to post here.


The majority of Poles do not agree with you and soon the wishes of Poles on this matter will be respected.


a) Your logic is entirely flawed: British people who choose to live in Poland and to assist Poland are the exact opposite of the traitors who reject Poland.

b) Poland does not allow anybody who does not hold Polish citizenship to vote in elections for the Polish parliament.
c) Poland is legally required to allow all EU nationals to vote in local elections in Poland (although very few of us do).

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Those people turned their backs on Poland, renounced their allegiance to Poland and refuse to do anything to assist Poland: they reject their responsibilities, Poland will reject their attempts to exercise their rights.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Yes, but one can very easily, and entirely legally, take the amount of taxes down to a level far below that which I currently pay.


How surprising to see you putting forward such an entirely selfish attitude. Those of us who live in Poland are very grateful that Poles are not as utterly focused on their own selves as self-identified members of Polonia are. Poles work together for the good of Poland and know that it is their duty to do that. They understand that with rights come responsibilities. This is one of the many reasons why Poles have so little time for those who reject Poland with their actions but claim Poland with their words.


It will be a day much sooner when people who reject Poland are stripped of their right to vote in Polish elections.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


I wonder how long you will be allowed to get away with substituting insults for argumentation.


It is not where they find themselves to be: it is where they choose to be. They choose to reject Poland, soon Poland will choose to reject them.


I have more than one citizenship and qualify for several others.


90zl per week. A total amount which is repaid many times over each year by the taxes I choose to pay in Poland.


Why do Poles expect to be given voting rights when they move to other countries for money or other selfish reasons? And why do some 'Poles' think that as well as getting those rights they should maintain the same rights in the country which they abandoned money or other selfish reasons?

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Clearly you can not be talking about me: I wasn't born in Britain (and neither were my parents) and I came to Poland to do voluntary work at the invitation of the Polish government. But do feel free to tell us all about all the wonderful things you do for Poland.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


There is a more simple rule: anybody who calls their grandmother "Busia" should have no say in how Poland is run.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]




Are you actually able to discuss things without insulting people? It looks very much that you are not.


If they have turned their backs on Poland, rejected Poland, renounced all allegiance to Poland and do not do a single thing for Poland, they should not have that right. Rights are accompanied by responsibilities: these people have refused to accept their responsibilities and so should be stripped of their rights.


No, it is exercising a privilege. People who refuse to help Poland should not be granted such privileges.


We cannot talk about their level of contribution: these people contribute nothing to Poland. But they still think that they should still have the right to tell Poles how Poland should be run. Pathetic.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


I note that you have not a word to say about why people who neither live in Poland nor in any way contribute to Poland should have any say in the running of Poland. Instead you focus your post on a frankly pathetic attempt to provoke me into reacting so that you can run crying to the mods yet again. Sorry but that isn't going to work. I'm not going to insult you, not even if you call my grandmother Ukrainian.

But do feel free to post yet more insults instead of trying to defend the shameless actions of the idiots from Polonia. We all know that they have no moral right to effect live in a country which they have chosen to abandon and continue to shun: this is not their country, they have betrayed this country. But for some reason you leap to their defense. Strange. Could it be that you are trying just a little too hard to be Polonia?

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Do you think that you could perhaps manage to contribute to this thread without insulting other posters. Thank you in advance.


That would depend on how elastic one's definition of Polish-American is. According to the Polish-American Association close to 500,000 people in the USA are entitled to vote in Polish elections. I wonder how many, if any, of them pay any taxes in Poland or do anything else which benefits Poland in any way.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


More like half a million!

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

And yet again Polonia prove that:
a) there is an 80% chance that somebody who is Polonia is also a moron;
b) when it comes to Poland, there should be no representation without taxation. People who choose not to do anything to help Poland should not be allowed to have any say in how Poland is run.

Law / Polish Citizenship, do I have to travel to Warszawa (Warsaw) to get it? [13]

You are a Polish citizen. Contact the embassy in London, much easier that way.

But if you're British, why bother getting a Polish passport? It offers very little you don't get with a British one.

News / British man prosecuted for raping teenage girls in Kraków [47]


There used to be some checks, they were how the axe-murderer who worked at the same school as me was caught, although that was due to Interpol being on the lookout for him rather than the guy having past form.


And murdering women, you forgot about the special Sebian talent for murdering women.

News / British man prosecuted for raping teenage girls in Kraków [47]


I am stating very clearly that whatever the reason for Poland failing to introduce proper background checks for people who work with children actually is, it is highly unlike that the church has anything to do with there being no background checks: priests are already exempted from the checks done on people working with vulnerable kids in Polish state institutions.


Which is why the president of Poland got his lawyers involved in helping Hollywood's most famous paedophile.

News / British man prosecuted for raping teenage girls in Kraków [47]


I doubt it: the checking process for working with vulnerable kids in Polish state institutions (e.g. orphanages) are pretty rigorous, but it is waived entirely for priests.

News / British man prosecuted for raping teenage girls in Kraków [47]


No checking system will ever be perfect, people will slip through, mistakes will be made, only a person's past can be checked, not their future. However, any system is better than none at all, doing anything is better than doing nothing: Poland has no checking system at all and is doing nothing at all to introduce one. This will have entirely predictable results.


Of course not. And if a Polish man's sperm is found inside a rape victim who has been very nearly beaten to death, why that is simply proof of an anti-Polish plot!

Life / Expats/Immigrants in Poland: Needy, Greedy or contributor. Which one are you? [118]


Believe what you want: the reality is that women in Poland can take years off. As of 1 January 2012 maternity leave will be 20 weeks, plus holiday allowance earned for that time. However, it is simple to find a doctor who will sign a mother-to-be as unable to work from the third month of pregnancy onwards, meaning leave can easily be 11 months, plus the five weeks' holiday allowance earned in that time, which makes more than a year.


Whether you claimed maternity pay or not is up to you; however, if you had a full-time contract, you were entitled to it, at 100% of your average salary over the past year.

UK, Ireland / The truth about the purchasing of cigarettes in the UK [11]


Actually, there is a press release about the case which was put out by Hoverspeed. Hoverspeed want as many people as possible to cross the channel. So is their release likely to be unbiased?


Why shouldn't he open his bag immediately? He has nothing to hide: he isn't the one claiming that 10000 cigarettes are for his personal use.

News / British man prosecuted for raping teenage girls in Kraków [47]


The only thing which surprises me about this case is that it took so long for it to happen. It was always a 'when', not an 'if'.

And I absolutely guarantee you that unless Poland introduces background checks for people who work with children (or at the very least for people who work unsupervised with children), the second case will be a 'when', not an 'if'.

Life / Expats/Immigrants in Poland: Needy, Greedy or contributor. Which one are you? [118]


Clearly you aren't Polish.

Life / Expats/Immigrants in Poland: Needy, Greedy or contributor. Which one are you? [118]


I know a guy who has a female employee he hasn't even seen for five years (two kids plus six months' holiday plus a bit of sick leave), but she's still an employee.

Life / Expats/Immigrants in Poland: Needy, Greedy or contributor. Which one are you? [118]


And let's not even go into the women who carefully time pregnancy, maternity leave, illness, holiday (of course they have full holiday allowance for all the time that they were off) and then getting pregnant again.

UK, Ireland / The truth about the purchasing of cigarettes in the UK [11]


If you seriously believe this rubbish, why are you limiting yourself to making a few buttons smuggling 50 cartons of fags? Go speak to some Turkish smack dealers in Amsterdam about buying 10kg from them and then selling it on in UK. After all, UKBA can not look in your bags or touch you and it is illegal for them to even try.

UK, Ireland / The truth about the purchasing of cigarettes in the UK [11]


Smart move: give them all the suspicion that they need that you have something to hide and give them due cause to check what you've got up your ringpiece. They claim that you were acting in a suspicious way and that your actions when challenged raised further suspicion and that is all they need to stick fingers up your arse. But whatever floats your boat.

UK, Ireland / Cigarettes in Poland (cost, brands). The situation in the UK? [57]

Yes, the Customs and Excise Management Act of 1979 no longer applies to anybody at all, which is why people who have 20kg of smack in their bags are now allowed to say "Fcck you copper! I ain't opening sht." when asked to open their bags.

Genealogy / Andrzej Lelek to find Zofia Jaworska / Danuta Szpalerska - my husband's relatives. [7]


Ways to guarantee one gets help, number 281.

UK, Ireland / Cigarettes in Poland (cost, brands). The situation in the UK? [57]


Hmm, a sixty-a-day man are you?

UK, Ireland / Cigarettes in Poland (cost, brands). The situation in the UK? [57]

Not sure to be honest. I'm pretty sure that I've seen Drum but Golden Virgina and Old Holbourne are not things that I can remember seeing.

Perhaps one of our Wroclaw members can help with regard to what is available in Wroclaw?

UK, Ireland / Cigarettes in Poland (cost, brands). The situation in the UK? [57]


Sorry but all of those are very unusual in Poland. Would Marlboro be acceptable? They are everywhere.

USA, Canada / Does anyone know about Americans or Canadians deported from Poland on Visa irregularities? [14]

Don't worry, dear boy, the border guard in Poland have guns and a reputation for not taking any shiit from any illegal immigrant, particularly not when the information they received about an individual illegal immigrant also contains very specific warning that the man in question is extremely violent, especially towards women.