Life / WHY DO POLES USE ENGLISH WORDS IN CONVERSATION? [396]


Indeed, in the part of the memoirs in which Pasek is defending himself before the Sejm, with the king listening in, he is constantly lapsing into Latin and alluding to biblical and classical stories in such an arbitrary manner that, after several pages, the English translator informs the reader that although this bizarre speech goes on much longer, she is neglecting to translate it any further, and thus sparing the reader, and herself, further exasperation. Quite a feat for old Jan to be so intensely baroque that even a scholar of the baroque couldn't take it anymore.


"Malicious gloating" fails to express the meaning of "Schadenfreude" which is literally "shameful happiness". It is a feeling of mirth that one feels guilty about having.

Life / Polish Werewolves [30]

The story Baring-Gould recounts may make one wonder why a witch would turn a wedding party into wolves. What is in it for her? The following passage of Popular Tales from the Norse, by Sir George Webbe Dasent, explains:


So it seems that just as "virtue is its own reward" then so too is evil, but why, after three years, does the witch in the story change the wolves back into human beings?

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]


Wow this is quite possibly the stupidest argument I have ever read on this forum. Banana republics as so called because they are dictatorships propped up by foreign interests, such as the Dole fruit company, they are not true republics. Delphiandomine do you even think that one single person reading this forum would be stupid enough to believe that since banana "republics" have the word "republic" in their name that it follows that I am citing them as the proper model for Poland? You really do not have any self-respect do you?

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]

Quentin Crisp said Polishness is a dangerous pathology and so it may appear to effete people. It is not for nothing that Poles didn't enter "history" until the start of the second millenium. They were too busy living righteous lives in natural freedom and today people of Polish descent are the beneficiaries of an undepleted national vigor regardless of where they live.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]

Only 27,000 out of 11,000,000 Polish-Americans voted in the 2007 Polish national elections. That is less than one quarter of one percent of the Polish diaspora in America and so focusing upon it is misguided when one is trying to speak about the Polish diaspora as a whole. As for giving advice, Polish-Americans live in a republic, as do Poles, and they thus have more knowledge of what does and doesn't work in a republic than do interlopers from constitutional monarchies.

The OP is interesting for revealing that Canadian Polonia is more likely to be fluent in Polish than is the American branch, but it would be misguided to make speaking Polish the litmus test regarding authentic Polishness. Polishness is above all else a style of living. Polishness is about bravery, heavy drinking, and a healthy disrespect for authority. The Polish character was formed in a glorious past and hardened in the forge of oppression by foreign powers. Poles have emerged as a special people with an unbreakable spirit and a sympathy for the downtrodden.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]


Where are the people on this forum, much less this thread, "forever claiming" this?


Where are the people on this thread, much less this forum, writing about the "pollution" of Polish bloodlines?
The answer to both questions is nowhere. Delphiandomine is here demonstrating what is known in logic as the "Straw Man" fallacy. Delphiandomine is quite simply a racist who hates Polonia and so he lies about what Polonians say so he can condemn them.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]


Even if this did happen in some cases it is mostly irrelevant because it ignores the fact that the bulk of Polish immigration to the USA occurred in the latter part of the 19th century and in the first two decades of the 20th before any Ukrainians or Belarussians had Polish citizenship in the Second Republic. The people that claimed they were Polish did so because they were Polish. They spoke Polish and they were Roman Catholics. Ukrainians and Belarussians were Orthodox and if they spoke Polish it was not their first language. Petending these people would claim to be Polish because they were "confused" is ridiculous.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]


This is probably true, but it results from the fact that many Americans have been here for so many generations that they no longer know their ancestors' European origins and since being Irish has been, for the last several decades at least, celebrated here in America, many of these folks when asked will claim Irish ancestry. Demographers say that despite the large amount of Irish immigration to the USA there is no way that a full 10% of the USA is really of exclusively Irish origin.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]


Dopeyandomine, you are an idiot for thinking immigrants to the USA, or elsewhere, would lie about being Polish when they were really some other ethnicity. You are the deranged person here not anyone's great-grandmother.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]


Of course this is true. The term "Pole" is not identical with the term "Polonian", but it is exclusively fools and racists who will claim that people are not Polish because they may also be some other Eastern European ethnicity as well as Polish.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]


True for the majority of Americans but not for those descended from the original British colonists. They are the ones who will call themselves plain "American" and they are also, in part, the one's who made all the subsequent waves of immigrants into hyphenated Americans, because they reserved the title of true Americans for themselves and they excluded non-WASPs from the circles of power in the USA until relatively recently. An example of their prejudice that pertains to this thread's topic can be seen in a term of derision that they used for male Slavic immigrants, of which the greatest number were Polish, and this term is "Bohunk" often preceded by the adjective "oily". There cannot be a more tidy Germanized group in all of Slavija than the Bohemians, but here in America they, and other Slavic males, were seen by the WASPs as chaotic and dangerously sexually potent.

News / Polish Diaspora - many of these 20 million actually speak Polish? [79]

No only petty fools and racists feel that they "have" to perform this "counting". A person with Polish and any other ancestry is still Polish and people who are Czech or Lemko etc. without any Polish ancestry do not just assume Polish ancestry on a whim. This attempt to call into question the Polishness of the Polish diaspora is the resort of jealous fools that are upset that Polonia is so vast and so beloved.

News / Poland's 'oburzeni' (indignant)? [41]


That's strange. Here in the USA there is a major in "Communications" for that.

News / Poland's 'oburzeni' (indignant)? [41]


Dopeyandomine you are being an ignorant myopic fool when you denigrate the study of history.

UK, Ireland / Poles in Ireland by Peadar de Burca. They "turned their backs on a country that gave them" [195]


Give Northern Ireland back to the Irish.

Law / What are chances for Poland to join in Eurasian Economic Community? [100]


Hear! Hear! Czesław Miłosz wrote that the two nations that Poles have the most affection for are the Hungarian and the Serbian.

UK, Ireland / Poles in Ireland by Peadar de Burca. They "turned their backs on a country that gave them" [195]


Because the Loyalists outnumber the Republicans in Northern Ireland.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Polish Highlanders who constitute a large number of the Chicago Polonians that voted in the election are not from the Eastern boarderlands, and the few thousand Polonians who voted in the election are not third or fourth generation Americans whose ancestors immigrated a century ago, but more recent immigrants. Delphiandomine's "analysis" above is absolutely worthless.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

3 out of 10 Poles voted the same way as 80% of the Polonians that voted according to this thread's OP. If the US Polonians that voted are "radically out of step with Poland" then 30% of Poland is "radically out of step with Poland" too, but this is an absurd thing to say.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Polonia is ten million strong in the USA. Most of them don't vote in Polish elections and most of them are better educated than the clowns who write such drivel maligning them.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

Peterweg, US Polonians didn't disenfranchise any Poles in Poland by voting, and since 30% of Poles voted Pis you can't really say that they were radically out of step with the Polish populace. You should also note that only 27,000 US Polonians voted in 2007 and it seems unlikely that the number who voted this time around is much higher. This thread is about the number of votes of a small town that had no significant effect on the outcome of the election.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Gorales that went throught the Great Depression here in America became lifelong Democrats after they saw how the other party was willing to let them starve and die.


Ruch Palikota got 10% of the vote in Poland altogether.


Yes Pennboy, I think that it is most especially the association of this party with the Roman Catholic Church that made Chicago Polonians vote for it.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Seanus, the Polonians that voted in the election are overwhelmingly from Chicago and that is a part of Polonia I am not very familiar with, but I suspect it has nothing to do with being Gorale. The Gorale branch of my family has always been staunchly progressive.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


I never did either of these things. Your claim that I have is quite stupid. My arguments for not disenfranchising Polish citizens are here in this thread for all to see. Let the reader judge them.

The reason this thread continues on and on is because a few of the expatriate English teachers on this thread cannot bear to allow anyone to have another opinion than themselves and so they will keep posting, and posting, in a laughable attempt to assert the unquestionable authority that they think they deserve. Its quite pathetic really. They think they are the bearers of light in dark Poland and they can't stand it when someone says that they are wong.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


I have made no personal attacks. I have defended Polonia not against one person but against a sad cabal of persons that think it is just fine to attack and insult Polonia. You are really stupid if you believe that calling Polonia a bunch of traitors is fine but pointing out the failings of expatriates on this forum is somehow "personal".

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


PWEI, you and your expatriate cronies, have provided Polonia with many many reasons to laugh at you contemptuously on this thread and others. Too bad for you that you have ended up entertaining the very people you hate, but it is also too bad for this forum that you end up ruining alot of its threads by indulging your stupid prejudiced hatred for Polonia at every opportunity. US Polonia is 10 million strong and we will not stand idly by while a few hateful clowns insult us. Polonia and Poland forever! Meddling petty, and resentful English teachers never.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


No, they are not.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

I have commented on the issue throughout. PWEI, you claimed earlier in the thread that the "actions" of US Polonia warrants their being disenfranchised and I and another poster asked you what exactly these "actions" were. You never answered our questions, because you cannot say that voting for a party you don't like warrants disenfranchisement, because any sane person knows that that would pervert democracy. Keep pretending that I haven't commented on the issue, and I, and others reading this thread, will continue laughing at what a edit .

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


According to Polish law they are citizens of Poland. According to idiots they are traitors. This thread is becoming really tiresome. The same stupid B.S. from the little clique of British expatriates that have a sick obsession with Polish-Americans. They need psychological therapy.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


I am defending the right of Polish citizens to vote. You are very stupid if you believe defending the rights of Polish citizens is somehow a defense of a single political party.